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Why would a man want wife and children?

  • 23-04-2011 4:08pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭


    In this day and age why would a man want to have children? Those are very costly expenses. The money you save by not having a wife and children allows me to live like a playboy 3-4 weeks each year in a tropical place.

    Why would anyone give that up to start a family. Please do tell.


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  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    You talk like a man who makes his own sandwiches ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    MarkR wrote: »
    You talk like a man who makes his own sandwiches ...
    I don't eat sandwiches.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I don't know.

    /thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    Didnt know Peter Stringfellow was a boardie:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭fleet


    For 3-4 weeks a year you can keep your playboy lifestyle.<br />
    <br />
    If you manage to find a way to live like a playboy 52 weeks of the year only by staying single then let me know. Meantime I'll continue looking.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    fleet wrote: »
    For 3-4 weeks a year you can keep your playboy lifestyle.

    If you manage to find a way to live 52 weeks of the year only by staying single then let me know. Meantime I'll continue looking.
    Throw in the occasional hookers for good measure and you'll be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,404 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    whiteonion wrote: »
    In this day and age why would a man want to have children? Those are very costly expenses. The money you save by not having a wife and children allows me to live like a playboy 3-4 weeks each year in a tropical place.

    Why would anyone give that up to start a family. Please do tell.


    You said on another thread that you earn less than 25k per year SO how can you say that you live the life of a playboy.
    You can hardly afford a wife and children maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    whiteonion wrote: »
    In this day and age why would a man want to have children? Those are very costly expenses. The money you save by not having a wife and children allows me to live like a playboy 3-4 weeks each year in a tropical place.

    Why would anyone give that up to start a family. Please do tell.

    3 - 4 weeks of living it up and then the rest of the year filled in busily trolling on boards.ie.

    Yes , you make a fine argument for the single life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Phoenix Park


    maybe he means a life READING Playboy..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    I found if you cut down on useless expenses you can save €10k per year. I have only 7 years to go until i can permanently move to a poor country and live there as a playboy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Your genetic makeup is a small part of your identity. More important are your ideas, beliefs, manners, and stories. All of these things will be taken up by your child and then changed around. Your child will never be a clone of yourself, fortunately, but instead will be a new variation of you and the other people that raise him or her. Its a great emotional & proud feeling to see your children growing up and leading good mature happy lifes & the cycle continues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,822 ✭✭✭stimpson


    realies wrote: »
    Your genetic makeup is a small part of your identity. More important are your ideas, beliefs, manners, and stories. All of these things will be taken up by your child and then changed around. Your child will never be a clone of yourself, fortunately, but instead will be a new variation of you and the other people that raise him or her. Its a great emotional & proud feeling to see your children growing up and leading good mature happy lifes & the cycle continues.

    And you never know when you might need a kidney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I'm so sure the OP got banned recently.

    Must of been a wonderful dream.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Happiness and stuff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Marsden


    realies wrote: »
    Your genetic makeup is a small part of your identity. More important are your ideas, beliefs, manners, and stories. All of these things will be taken up by your child and then changed around. Your child will never be a clone of yourself, fortunately, but instead will be a new variation of you and the other people that raise him or her. Its a great emotional & proud feeling to see your children growing up and leading good mature happy lifes & the cycle continues.

    Well put, I wonder if the OP is 60 and alone will the playboy lifestyle-4 weeks in wexford- still seem as good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    whiteonion wrote: »
    In this day and age why would a man want to have children? Those are very costly expenses. The money you save by not having a wife and children allows me to live like a playboy 3-4 weeks each year in a tropical place.

    Why would anyone give that up to start a family. Please do tell.

    OK whiteonion - give us your costings and the locations you have been in.

    The singleton lifestyle is not something that gets discussed in the Gentlemens Club.

    I do know a guy who chucked in Ireland a few years back and moved to Larvia and a divorced guy who has moved to Poland.

    Now -it would not be for me (too late/divorced 2 kids) but - child-free was something people did before either marrying late or not at all.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    whiteonion wrote: »
    In this day and age why would a man want to have children? Those are very costly expenses. The money you save by not having a wife and children allows me to live like a playboy 3-4 weeks each year in a tropical place.

    Why would anyone give that up to start a family. Please do tell.

    Why does a cost for something have to make it a burden?

    Sure there's a cost for you to yourself, are you then your own burden?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    I think it is important to realise that it is not just women who have a biological ticking clock, men have one too I beleive. It probably isn't that obvious and can probably blind side you like a hurley to the side of the head. There is an intense biological drive to pair up and have children for an awful lot of people.

    To make a conscious decision to marry and have kids is not so extraordinary either. Sure there is a massive financial and emotional cost to having a wife and children but I think the benefits will far outweigh this. It is possible to have the best of both, for a while anyway. There is tremendous freedom to being single and living the playboy lifestyle. However, all those Thai hookers and one night stands will not comfort you when you are sitting alone in your bachelor pad when your world is falling apart around you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,462 ✭✭✭red menace


    whiteonion wrote: »
    I found if you cut down on useless expenses you can save €10k per year. I have only 7 years to go until i can permanently move to a poor country and live there as a playboy.

    I do hope they have internet there
    I would hate to miss out on your useful threads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Because some men like to watch their wives grow fat and see their kids emigrate.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    It's like having Bubbles back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    whiteonion wrote: »
    I don't eat sandwiches.

    Some kind of worldwide conspiracy to remove the true value of nutrition by placing food between two slices of bread i assume.


  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭Barrythe chopper


    Dude you be trollin.
    But seriously having a wife would be awesome dont you think? to have another person who loves you and needs you and you her as well, someone who will support you, to feel that connection with a fellow person why wouldnt you want to experience that.
    Also the whole meaning of life is to have kids and help that little person grow and become the best person it can become.
    I have a little 11 year old cousin who loves me and i dont know of any better feeling in the world than helping her and being apart of her life.
    Id choose that life than being a playboy anytime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    The combined experience of cultivating a long term relationship and the success of copulating and passing your genes onto the next generation is a profound and rewarding experience.
    Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll are fleeting pleasures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    OP,

    You sound exactly like one of my friends, never had much luck with women over the teenage years, played consoles most of the time. Majorly into being in his room all the time.

    Then he had the opportunity to travel to thailand with another friend, and he went. Everything was cheap so he lived 'like a king' but that also brought the seedier side of things, I believe he had a 'girlfriend' while he was there.

    He came back raving about the place wanting to live there, but realistically he was paying women for sex and not developing that relationships or that side of the human condition. Ive been to Thailand and done some fantastic things but also witnessed the seedier side of it. Not for me at all.

    Luckily this guy came back and amazingly met someone, theyve been together maybe 2 years now. Im happy for him.


    By the way you cant 'live like a king' on 10K very long. Best of luck with your expedition though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Biological imperative.
    /thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    whiteonion wrote: »
    In this day and age why would a man want to have children? Those are very costly expenses. The money you save by not having a wife and children allows me to live like a playboy 3-4 weeks each year in a tropical place.

    Why would anyone give that up to start a family. Please do tell.


    The census form would be easy to fill in !

    Just one sad, lonely, bitter, old man. (with STD's)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭suey71


    I woke up this morning to the sound of 4 happy children laughing and screaming and stuffing their faces with easter eggs.

    Priceless:D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    I think it is important to realise that it is not just women who have a biological ticking clock, men have one too I beleive. It probably isn't that obvious and can probably blind side you like a hurley to the side of the head. There is an intense biological drive to pair up and have children for an awful lot of people.

    To make a conscious decision to marry and have kids is not so extraordinary either. Sure there is a massive financial and emotional cost to having a wife and children but I think the benefits will far outweigh this. It is possible to have the best of both, for a while anyway. There is tremendous freedom to being single and living the playboy lifestyle. However, all those Thai hookers and one night stands will not comfort you when you are sitting alone in your bachelor pad when your world is falling apart around you.
    Theoretically men can have kids pretty much up until they die. Whether its a good idea to have kids later in life is another story.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Chnandler Bong


    whiteonion wrote: »
    In this day and age why would a man want to have children? Those are very costly expenses. The money you save by not having a wife and children allows me to live like a playboy 3-4 weeks each year in a tropical place.

    Why would anyone give that up to start a family. Please do tell.
    I think the real question is, why would anyone want to start a family with you?


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't agree with the OPs view, if you meet someone and things work out it's only natural to settle down and have kids. I reckon in Ireland though in the last 10 years lots of people hooked up a tad prematurely partly due to the housing bubble etc.

    Horses for courses though, nowadays for every happily married person there seems to be someone after getting divorced. Three or four ladies in their 30s at work got divorced a few years back. One of the buddies' sisters in going through it too.

    Playboy lifestyle in a cheap country sounds to me like shagging brassers that are doing it through little choice of their own, doesn't appeal at all to me. Fair enough if it's Monto Carlo though :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Theoretically men can have kids pretty much up until they die. Whether its a good idea to have kids later in life is another story.

    Best time to do it. Ensure your DNA lives on then die. A whole new meaning to the "dead beat dad" thing.


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    You said on another thread that you earn less than 25k per year SO how can you say that you live the life of a playboy.
    You can hardly afford a wife and children maybe.

    That explains it. Bet he works in subway making sandwiches. This would explain how he is able to survive without his own sandwich maker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    whiteonion wrote: »
    I found if you cut down on useless expenses you can save €10k per year. I have only 7 years to go until i can permanently move to a poor country and live there as a playboy.

    Take it from a man who lives in one of these countries and witnesses desperate men live this life every day:

    This is a 'playboy':

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    This is what you will be:

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    The OP is on to something here. and his reason for not having kids leaves him open to people taking the moral high ground.

    it does not often sit well with parents for someone to choose the childfree option.

    it does not make the OP selfish for not having kids .

    Several women i know have not had kids for career reasons and 1 does not because she loves holidaying & shopping and it is why she works. I suspect the reason for some is that they just do not like kids -others its a pure independence thing.

    A couple I know have stuck together for business reasons and share the same lovely big house and he goes of to asia several times a year and has an apartment there. They have grown up kids.

    The OP goes a bit further and by definition is saying that settling down in Ireland with an Irishwoman -kids or nor - is not for him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    CDfm wrote: »
    The OP is on to something here. and his reason for not having kids leaves him open to people taking the moral high ground.

    it does not often sit well with parents for someone to choose the childfree option.

    it does not make the OP selfish for not having kids .

    Several women i know have not had kids for career reasons and 1 does not because she loves holidaying & shopping and it is why she works. I suspect the reason for some is that they just do not like kids -others its a pure independence thing.

    The OP goes a bit further and by definition is saying that settling down in Ireland with an Irishwoman -kids or nor - is not for him.

    I think you have it sumed up nicely here. Clearly the OP is trolling but there is some truth there. Not every person wants to have children and I find the vast majority of people who have them or want to have them cannot understand this. They'll say everything under the sun 'you'll change your mind, you'll regret it when your old etc.' because it's osmething so alien to them. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having children and absolutely nothing wrong with not having children either.

    If the OP's dream (as trollish as it is) is to live a 'playboy' lifestyle who are you all to take the high ground and say how unfufilled and lonely it will be. I still don't understand why it bothers parents so much that not everyone wants children.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    Best time to do it. Ensure your DNA lives on then die. A whole new meaning to the "dead beat dad" thing.


    Sperm doners satisfy their need to have their dna live on while giving a gift to infertile couples. The deadbeat dad just sprays and runs like a dog. A difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Sperm doners satisfy their need to have their dna live on while giving a gift to infertile couples. The deadbeat dad just sprays and runs like a dog. A difference.

    Jokes Metro, sometimes they get posted on the internet.

    Thanks for taking the time to point out the brutally obvious though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Lads Im locking this wreck as I dont think its going to go anywhere good,not that its in a good place anyway.

    I'd also like to add,even if you think the OP is trolling,insulting them isnt kosher.As on every forum on boards,attack the post,not the poster or hit the report post icon.

    Cheers!.


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