Any brands you don't buy on principle?

khmk

K-9 wrote: »

I seen both on TV and I was ashamed of Heysel. I think you are being abit flippant about the Pool response to Heysel.



Ah to tbh, I never said that. You are putting words in my mouth and by the looks of it others.

I can't explain because I never said that. Can you clear up what I have to explain?

I apologise, it was someone else.

You're right.

khmk

Coca Cola.

Violafy

khmk wrote: »

One thats won the league in the last 20 years.

Were you alive the last time liverpool won the old first division?

So you're a Man Utd or Chelsea fan then. Surprising. And no, I wasn't. Why is that relevant? Or did you only start supporting this team of yours after they started winning leagues?

K-9

khmk wrote: »

I apologise, it was someone else.

You're right.

Fair enough, you should read more into things!

Think I'll leave it here.

OPENROAD

Violafy wrote: »

So you're a Man Utd or Chelsea fan then. Surprising. And no, I wasn't. Why is that relevant? Or did you only start supporting this team of yours after they started winning leagues?

You left out Arsenal :mad: ;)

elpistolero

ForzaSaints wrote: »

Lads just wondering how many matches do you liverpool 'fans' get to each year?

Ive been to 3 this season, by the way why would that have anything to do with boycotting the sun? Does going to more matches make you a bigger lfc fan or something? What about people who have no jobs and cant afford to get to games?!Not having a go at you but i hate when people judge your support and knowledge of a club on how many games you attend

Violafy

OPENROAD wrote: »

You left out Arsenal :mad: ;)

Apologies. From my experience, Arsenal fans aren't usually *quite* as classless and deluded as the supporters of Chelsea and Man utd though. You should be flattered if you're an Arsenal fan!












Of course, there are SOME nice Man Utd/Chelsea fans... They just seem to be rather hard to find.

grenache

I never buy a Guinness/Diageo product if i can help it. 'Irish' my b0llox! They have their HQ in London and are a giant British multinational that has taken over the product rights for several well known brands like Baileys, Smirnoff and Gordons. So a good chunk of the money earned through sales of Guinness and these other brands is repatriated directly back to Britain.

Guinness itself back in the day bought up a lot of smaller breweries and closed them down. They had a near monopoly-like status in the Irish stout market for years. Not forgetting of course that they refused to hire Catholics for the first 200 years of their existence.

If i want to have a nice genuinely Irish stout, i'll ask for a Galway Hooker, Shandon Stout, or O'Haras. Not some clichéd watery ****e that pretends to be Irish.

OPENROAD

grenache wrote: »

I never buy a Guinness/Diageo product if i can help it. 'Irish' my b0llox! They have their HQ in London and are a giant British multinational that has taken over the products right for several well known brands like Baileys, Smirnoff and Gordons. So a good chunk of the money earned through sales of Guinness and these other brands is repatriated directly back to Britain.

Guinness itself back in the day bought up a lot of smaller breweries and closed them down. They had a near monopoly-like status in the Irish stout market for years. Not forgetting of course that they refused to hire Catholics for the first 200 years of their existence.

If i want to have a nice genuinely Irish stout, i'll ask for a Galway Hooker, Shandon Stout, or O'Haras. Not some clichéd watery ****e that pretends to be Irish.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

grenache

bnt wrote: »

Sometimes they win a format war: Blu-Ray is a Sony format

Correct me if i'm wrong, but is that battle not being won by DVD? There certainly is a lot more titles available in DVD than in Blue Ray format. Just go into your local Xtra-Vision or Chartbusters. I dont think i know one person with a Blue Ray player, most of my friends have standard DVD players as do all of my family. I know it was predicted in the mid noughties that Blue Ray would win, but from what i can see, DVD is still more popular and more widely available.

Donny5

grenache wrote: »

Guinness itself back in the day bought up a lot of smaller breweries and closed them down. They had a near monopoly-like status in the Irish stout market for years. Not forgetting of course that they refused to hire Catholics for the first 200 years of their existence.
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Whatever about Diageo being a foreign company, I don't know where you're getting this from. Guinness was known for it's support of Catholics and their emancipation throughout it's history.

grenache wrote: »

Correct me if i'm wrong, but is that battle not being won by DVD?

Ireland has always been slow to adopt new technologies, but internationally, Blu-ray is replacing DVD faster than DVD replaced VHS. Being 13 years old, DVD has reached a saturation level that BR couldn't hope to equal in only 5. Blu-ray's main competition is now Video on Demand, something we don't have in Ireland. Anyway, I'm sure you know someone with a PS3, the world's most common BR drive.

eoinkildare

Green Isle Foods. Ever since their disastrous handling of that strike last year.
they even let a guy go on hunger strike for a week before negotiating.
Eoin

Orando Broom

Violafy wrote: »

So you're a Man Utd or Chelsea fan then. Surprising. And no, I wasn't. Why is that relevant? Or did you only start supporting this team of yours after they started winning leagues?

To be fair unless you were born pre 1964 if you follow Liverpool and you are under 50 you are a johnny come lately fückwit. It's a charge that can never be levelled at any Irish supporter.

Wheelie King

heyheyhey1982 wrote: »

Yeah i see where you are coming from- but what was wrote in the paper re hillborough that day seemed to be a made up story fabricated out of thin air.

Heysel itself had many factors- but at the end of the day the root cause was rioting fans. Video evidence showed it was more the liverpool fans- and for some reason all english sides where banned from europe. Blaming security and segregation not been up to standard is a bit of a cop out- the simple reason was there was a huge faction of liverpool fans wanting a riot.

Liverpool fans are notorios for not accepting criticism- John Giles and
Eamonn dunphy have both said they have recieved huge amounts of criticism over the years from Livepool fans saying they are too harsh on Liverpool. Maybe its the fans being over sensative.

It's not the fans being over sensative. British and Irish media have always had strong anti Liverpool leanings over the years. I'm 45 years old and remember in the 80's when Liverpool claimed the title by beating Aston Villa at Anfield yet the following morning several of the papers in London did'nt even cover the story on the back pages.

Btw don't go using sweeping statements like "huge sections of Liverpool fans wanting a riot" because if you where not at the match that day you don't know if that's true. Various reports that day suggest a minority of about 50-60 fans out of the 30,000 thousand there where intent on trouble. Hardly a majority is it.

fryup

Ford motor company

did you see the movie Flash of Genius (sly c*nts)

kieran26

And here i was thinkin there was a football forum:pac: i won't buy anything in Currys after they screwed me over once

Splendour

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Maybe with a tap filter attached. Without it its probably not 100% clean at all.

It's the fluoride that's the problem...

mrsbrightside

Tesco, bunch of arrogant pricks

wmpdd3

I refuse to buy anything on a Sunday or Bank holiday except for stuff sold in a local corner-type shop.

The other shops shouldn't be open on Sundays. Give people a chance to do something else.

Give the smaller shops a chance too.

And I work in retail.

wmpdd3

eoinkildare wrote: »

Green Isle Foods. Ever since their disastrous handling of that strike last year.
they even let a guy go on hunger strike for a week before negotiating.
Eoin

I never heard about that, but I read a newspaper every day and listen tot he news on 2 radio stations. Its a disgrace that wasn't reported better.

wmpdd3

wmpdd3 wrote: »

I refuse to buy anything on a Sunday or Bank holiday except for stuff sold in a local corner-type shop.

The other shops shouldn't be open on Sundays. Give people a chance to do something else.

Give the smaller shops a chance too.

And I work in retail.

What about people who only get a chance to get into town of a sunday or bank holiday?

petroltimer

cml387 wrote: »

Boring but necessary explanation:

Nestle relentlessly marketed powdered milk in African countries.Mothers used their products rather than breast milk.
Problem was the water being used to make up the feed was badly polluted in most cases.
Hence dead babies.

I remember in college UL 2002 they banned Nescafe in the college shop for this reason, but i remember that the kitkats etc stayed on the shelfs

iregk

Just out of curiousity what is it that people have against apple and I mean genuinly. I don't mean I hate them because I'm a rebel man, I don't go with the crowd I move in my own direction. Or so I think, thats why I bought a Nokia, which 50% of the rest of the world have!

Orando Broom

fryup wrote: »

Ford motor company

did you see the movie Flash of Genius (sly c*nts)

What about all the other car companies that used the same invention also paying no royalties?

Donny5

Orando Broom wrote: »

What about all the other car companies that used the same invention also paying no royalties?

In reality, which isn't all that close to the movie, he sued and won against Ford and Chrysler, but left it too late to file suit against GM and the foreign manufacturers.

mackeire

reebok runners. Just because they have the union jack on them. Oh and they're horrible runners aswel

admiralofthefleet

eoinkildare wrote: »

Green Isle Foods. Ever since their disastrous handling of that strike last year.
they even let a guy go on hunger strike for a week before negotiating.
Eoin

next time your in the supermarket look at the veterinary stamp on 'donegal' catch. irish my arse

Duggy747

iregk wrote: »

Just out of curiousity what is it that people have against apple and I mean genuinly. I don't mean I hate them because I'm a rebel man, I don't go with the crowd I move in my own direction. Or so I think, thats why I bought a Nokia, which 50% of the rest of the world have!

Apple are over-priced products that are more style than substance which are limited in features and they dictate what's "cool". €60 for a keyboard for an iPad?..........doesn't that just turn it into a stripped-down, under-powered & over-priced desktop?

Then there's the fact that they spend so much time and money advertising a product only to announce an "updated" version of said product within a few months which is basically just a slimmer version of what you have with minor bells and whistles.

upandcumming

mackeire wrote: »

reebok runners. Just because they have the union jack on them. Oh and they're horrible runners aswel

I saw a newspaper article about 7 years ago where footprints of said runners were found in 60% of petty crime in the UK. Wasn't at all surprised.

admiralofthefleet

i dont buy anything that has a 'by appointment to lizzie, makers of cakes' stamp on it

sensibleken

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i dont buy anything that has a 'by appointment to lizzie, makers of cakes' stamp on it

huh? whats this mean

stupidusername

Duggy747 wrote: »

Apple are over-priced products that are more style than substance which are limited in features and they dictate what's "cool". €60 for a keyboard for an iPad?..........doesn't that just turn it into a stripped-down, under-powered & over-priced desktop?

Then there's the fact that they spend so much time and money advertising a product only to announce an "updated" version of said product within a few months which is basically just a slimmer version of what you have with minor bells and whistles.

i was just going to reply with basically the same response. am...no flash? no usb port? am, no thanks

but here's a funny comic on the issue

but yeah never realised so many people had so many issues. maybe i should inform myself better.

petroltimer

mackeire wrote: »

reebok runners. Just because they have the union jack on them. Oh and they're horrible runners aswel

i take a size 12 runner and nike and Adidas runners are to small, the reebok 12 is the only one that fits right and mine don't have a union jack on them

iregk

Duggy747 wrote: »

Apple are over-priced products that are more style than substance which are limited in features and they dictate what's "cool". €60 for a keyboard for an iPad?..........doesn't that just turn it into a stripped-down, under-powered & over-priced laptop?

Then there's the fact that they spend so much time and money advertising a product only to announce an "updated" version of said product within a few months which is basically just a slimmer version of what you have with minor bells and whistles.

You mean in a similar way to the XBOX 360 being announced shortly after the XBOX launch? or the PS3 being announced just after the PS2 launch and likewise the PS4 being announced just aster the PS3 was released? All companies do it. Its more noticeable in Apple's case due to the limited product range. Sony release on average 5 new phones each year. Nokia similar figures each one a slightly more powerful, slimmer, lighter version than before. But it looks different so you don't pay attention to it but ultimately its the same thing.

As for over priced please. Look around without the hating apple goggles on. My iriver mp3 player 5 years ago cost €230. The equivalent ipod cost in and around the same with the cowan i audio a cool 50 dearer and the creative 10 cheaper. How is apple over priced there?

The keyboard issue why not buy a 3rd party one? I use a keyboard in work from microsoft that cost €80! I could easily go out and buy one that costs €10 but I didn't because I prefer this one. It's about choice!

I always find the undpowered limited argument of apple products hilarious. Don't get me wrong, I'm no apple fan. The only product I've ever owned form them is an iphone and at that I got it for free so in no way over priced! People bash them because it makes them think they are cool going against the grain. In what way is an iphone limited to say a sony or samsun equivalent? how is an ipad limited to say the HP tab? Apple products serve a specific purpose and they do it extremely well and better than most.

stovelid

mackeire wrote: »

reebok runners. Just because they have the union jack on them.

Buy a pair of Reebok Classics and paint a little triiclour over the Union Jack.

Feckfox

iregk wrote: »

You mean in a similar way to the XBOX 360 being announced shortly after the XBOX launch? or the PS3 being announced just after the PS2 launch and likewise the PS4 being announced just aster the PS3 was released? All companies do it. Its more noticeable in Apple's case due to the limited product range. Sony release on average 5 new phones each year. Nokia similar figures each one a slightly more powerful, slimmer, lighter version than before. But it looks different so you don't pay attention to it but ultimately its the same thing.

As for over priced please. Look around without the hating apple goggles on. My iriver mp3 player 5 years ago cost €230. The equivalent ipod cost in and around the same with the cowan i audio a cool 50 dearer and the creative 10 cheaper. How is apple over priced there?

The keyboard issue why not buy a 3rd party one? I use a keyboard in work from microsoft that cost €80! I could easily go out and buy one that costs €10 but I didn't because I prefer this one. It's about choice!

I always find the undpowered limited argument of apple products hilarious. Don't get me wrong, I'm no apple fan. The only product I've ever owned form them is an iphone and at that I got it for free so in no way over priced! People bash them because it makes them think they are cool going against the grain. In what way is an iphone limited to say a sony or samsun equivalent? how is an ipad limited to say the HP tab? Apple products serve a specific purpose and they do it extremely well and better than most.

It's been nearly 5 years since the PS3 was released. Same with the Xbox.

Sounds like you are an Apple fan btw

iregk

No not a fan I just find it hilarious that people jump down the throat of them with the most feeble of grounding and then can't back it up when you challenge it other than "oh your a fan". Very much the George W "if you're not with us your a terrorist" argument.

And on the PS3 your right it has been 5 years but the PS4 has been pushed back year due to the financial sh!t storm sony found themselves in. Didn't stop them from announcing it straight away. Apple have brought out 1 phone every year so why give them crap for that ignoring sony and nokia for their 2 monthly releases?

mackeire

petroltimer wrote: »

i take a size 12 runner and nike and Adidas runners are to small, the reebok 12 is the only one that fits right and mine don't have a union jack on them

Yes its the reebok classic that have the union jack on them. If the nike or adidas size 12 dont fit you, why dont you just get a bigger size in them?

sensibleken

iregk wrote: »

No not a fan I just find it hilarious that people jump down the throat of them with the most feeble of grounding and then can't back it up when you challenge it other than "oh your a fan". Very much the George W "if you're not with us your a terrorist" argument.

And on the PS3 your right it has been 5 years but the PS4 has been pushed back year due to the financial sh!t storm sony found themselves in. Didn't stop them from announcing it straight away. Apple have brought out 1 phone every year so why give them crap for that ignoring sony and nokia for their 2 monthly releases?

lol

Sony- crap returns process and DRM tech
Apple- DRM and other dodgy biz practices
Starbucks- way they swarm an area and make locals close
Indo or Sunday Indo- for obvious right wing trash
Any of the red top papers- full of lies
Anything from Israel- for obvious reasons
Dental items with fluoride- too much in our water already
Anything owned by Rupert Murdoch- he has too much media power
Tommy Hilfiger, Abercrombie, Nike, Ben Sherman, Kickers- so I dont look like a twat or knack
Any fizzy drinks- dont want diabetes!

Duggy747

iregk wrote: »

You mean in a similar way to the XBOX 360 being announced shortly after the XBOX launch? or the PS3 being announced just after the PS2 launch and likewise the PS4 being announced just aster the PS3 was released? All companies do it. Its more noticeable in Apple's case due to the limited product range.

Those consoles came out years apart from each other, doesn't apply here.

As for over priced please. Look around without the hating apple goggles on. My iriver mp3 player 5 years ago cost €230. The equivalent ipod cost in and around the same with the cowan i audio a cool 50 dearer and the creative 10 cheaper. How is apple over priced there?

With the price flash HDDs and MP3 players from other companies have dropped throughout the years how come iPods are still so expensive? (granted, they're not the only culprits over-charging in the MP3 market)

I always find the undpowered limited argument of apple products hilarious. Don't get me wrong, I'm no apple fan. The only product I've ever owned form them is an iphone and at that I got it for free so in no way over priced! People bash them because it makes them think they are cool going against the grain. In what way is an iphone limited to say a sony or samsun equivalent? how is an ipad limited to say the HP tab? Apple products serve a specific purpose and they do it extremely well and better than most.

I'm a technician and I deal with Microsoft and Apple products everyday so I assure you I know what I'm talking about and I can tell you when a company is ripping it's consumers off with it's ludricious prices, hardware and software. Their business practises are also very questionable.

Just because an iPad or an iPhone has shiny features and is advertised like God's gift does not make them the better piece of hardware. Plus the iPad is aimed at your average consumer whereas the HP tab is aimed at businesses, touchscreen/laptop hybrid products existed well before Apple made it pedestrian-friendly.

If anyone sounds like they have an ill-informed argument, it's you.

Blazer

feelingstressed wrote: »

The people boasting about their Israeli boycott are probably doing it on computers with Intel products

And driving Audi/Merc/BMWs/Volkwagon :rolleyes:

sensibleken

Sc@recrow wrote: »

And driving Audi/Merc/BMWs/Volkwagon :rolleyes:

whys that?

El Horseboxo

Corsendonk wrote: »

Because people forget that fruit and veg is a product that needs various components to produce the crop such as fertilisers and Israel is a leading producer of fertilisers that are used in the production of fruit and vegetables in Ireland and Europe especially soft fruits and toms. Incidentally the same fertilisers are a base component for gun powder so the same factories supply the Israel arms industry so you are subsidising a vital component of the Israel arms industry when you buy Irish non-organic produce.

I've always bought fruit and veg from local producers rather than supermarkets and such which may have items mis-labeled. And i've always asked if any israeli products were used in producing them. Of course in my life i may have contributed towards something they had a hand in making. But in this day and age there are so many monopolies on certain products that it's difficult to maintain a 100% true boycott of something. People might say why bother when you are still giving to them. But i'd rather give them the least amount due to circumstances that i can't help than a larger amount in circumstances that i could have prevented.

optogirl

Einhard wrote: »

How can you be sure? Israel produces a huge amount of high tech components for the IT industry. Your ability to post that message probably relies on some Israeli made compnents in your computer.

Also, in terms of the Nestle boycott, did tyhe company force these African mothers to buy their product? Surely people can't be so outraged over the fact thay they advertised their wares?

They advertised in such a way as to suggest that if you didn't use their products you were causing your children harm - they made women who were undeducated feel as though breast milk was inferior to their product. It is without doubt cynical and morally wrong

stupidusername

optogirl wrote: »

They advertised in such a way as to suggest that if you didn't use their products you were causing your children harm - they made women who were undeducated feel as though breast milk was inferior to their product. It is without doubt cynical and morally wrong

can i get a link to something about this, like advertising campaigns?

Blazer

Duggy747 wrote: »

Apple are over-priced products that are more style than substance which are limited in features and they dictate what's "cool". €60 for a keyboard for an iPad?..........doesn't that just turn it into a stripped-down, under-powered & over-priced desktop?

A desktop you can carry around in your hand..no other competitor has come out with a tablet that comes even close to the ipad...
I had the first version and am waiting to buy a proper specced android tablet...and still bloody waiting :rolleyes:
As for over-priced...the Samsung CEO admitted that they planned to charge more for their 10" galaxy tab but had to price it down due to the price of the Ipad 2..they didn't expect Apple to come in cheaper for the newer version.
Plus look at the price of the motorola xoom :rolleyes:

Duggy747 wrote: »

Then there's the fact that they spend so much time and money advertising a product only to announce an "updated" version of said product within a few months which is basically just a slimmer version of what you have with minor bells and whistles.

Apple operate on a yearly cycle...same as every other manufacturer...but at least with Apple you know that if you buy your Ipad 2 now..you won't see a new one until March next year..same goes for iphone/ipod etc
Dell/HP/Asus all release newer versions of their products 9-12 months later so why hammer Apple for it?


If you're going to hammer Apple hammer them for their closed off environment that forces you to jailbreak your device to use it how you want to...don't hammer them for some bull**** reason you heard from your nerdy apple-hating mates



PS...for all Apple lovers and hates out there..read scoopertino...priceless písstakes of Apple

http://scoopertino.com/

petroltimer

Deleted User wrote: »

Sony- crap returns process and DRM tech
Apple- DRM and other dodgy biz practices
Starbucks- way they swarm an area and make locals close
Indo or Sunday Indo- for obvious right wing trash
Any of the red top papers- full of lies
Anything from Israel- for obvious reasons
Dental items with fluoride- too much in our water already
Anything owned by Rupert Murdoch- he has too much media power
Tommy Hilfiger, Abercrombie, Nike, Ben Sherman, Kickers- so I dont look like a twat or knack
Any fizzy drinks- dont want diabetes!

i can understand you on all except Israel, they are not Taiwan they make some great stuff top quality i always found

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Sony- crap returns process and DRM tech
Apple- DRM and other dodgy biz practices
Starbucks- way they swarm an area and make locals close
Indo or Sunday Indo- for obvious right wing trash
Any of the red top papers- full of lies
Anything from Israel- for obvious reasons (never gave it any thought)
Dental items with fluoride- too much in our water already, (never gave it any thought)
Anything owned by Rupert Murdoch- he has too much media power, (couldn't live without sky, I dont buy the S*n or any of his other publications though)
Tommy Hilfiger, Abercrombie, Nike, Ben Sherman, Kickers- so I dont look like a twat or knack
Any fizzy drinks- dont want diabetes!

Apart from the crossed out pieces that a list of some of my favourite products

Sc@recrow

Sc@recrow wrote: »

A desktop you can carry around in your hand..no other competitor has come out with a tablet that comes even close to the ipad...

Ahem : http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S5dFdpF6xm0/TH_wJDxhM-I/AAAAAAAABUM/VZRIac0otuY/s1600/ipad_vs_hp_tc_1100.jpg
Only reason there is a market for tablets now is that Apple could sell Steve Jobs poo to some of the fanboys out there!