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Dublin Marathon 2011 'improvers' thread

RayCun · 2011-04-26 10:18:07

This thread might die for lack of interest, but there are bound to be a bunch of people running their second or later marathons in Dublin this year, looking for times between 3 and 4 hours, and wanting to discuss training, race strategies, whatever. It could be intimidating for the novices if that kind of discussion…

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#62 25-05-2011 10:25am
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Happy i found this thread.

Did Wexford half in 1:42 in real windy conditions so have my base now for dublin.

Did do 10k in 44:19 also.

Taking 2 weeks rest and on 1st of June i will start to follow the P&D 55 miles program and see if i can get sub 3:30. Last marathon was 2 years ago at 3:47 but didnt follow a plan. Big ask but you wont know till you try.

Many others looking at the sub 3:30?

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#63 25-05-2011 9:54pm
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average_runner wrote: »

Happy i found this thread.

Did Wexford half in 1:42 in real windy conditions so have my base now for dublin.

Many others looking at the sub 3:30?

Did a 3:59 in Dublin last year and a 1:44 in Wexford last Sunday on the back of erratic training. Thinking about sub 3:30.....but thinking isn't training....

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#64 27-05-2011 10:28am
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slowsteady wrote: »

Did a 3:59 in Dublin last year

I was talking briefly to a guy from Waterford, just after the finish line. I wonder was it you? Tall guy with glasses?

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#65 27-05-2011 2:24pm
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average_runner wrote: »

Happy i found this thread.

Did Wexford half in 1:42 in real windy conditions so have my base now for dublin.

Did do 10k in 44:19 also.

Taking 2 weeks rest and on 1st of June i will start to follow the P&D 55 miles program and see if i can get sub 3:30. Last marathon was 2 years ago at 3:47 but didnt follow a plan. Big ask but you wont know till you try.

Many others looking at the sub 3:30?

Best of luck to you, Not think its too big an ask over the year best of luck

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#66 27-05-2011 10:53pm
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RubyK wrote: »

I was talking briefly to a guy from Waterford, just after the finish line. I wonder was it you? Tall guy with glasses?

That was me alright - if 5' 9" counts as tall.

Wanted to head for the Donore 5k tomorrow but family commitments dictate otherwise - had a race 4 weeks in a row, suffering withdrawal symthoms already and its still only Fri evening!

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#67 02-06-2011 8:40pm
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menoscemo wrote: »

P.S. to keep endurance up, I am keeping my weekend LSR's much longer than the 10k programmes perscribe and pacing a few marathons. Hopefullt hat will mean a 12 week marathon programme will be sufficient.

How much longer would the lsr's be? If the 10 km plan called for a 6 mile run, would you go for a 8 or 10 mile instead?

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#68 02-06-2011 8:58pm
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DULLAHAN2 wrote: »

How much longer would the lsr's be? If the 10 km plan called for a 6 mile run, would you go for a 8 or 10 mile instead?

I would only recommend this for seasoned marathon runners but my LSR's have all been 13+ miles (including a few 26.2 mile pacing gigs). I think Krusty Clown recommends 10-15 miles. The reason being; when you step into most advanced marathon plans you'll be expected to do around 15 miles as your first LSR of the programme.

I wouldn't advise this for any newish marathon runner though. I am just coming off doing an Ultra and Multiple marathons this year. You would have to be used to doing 10-20 mile LSR's regularly.

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#69 10-06-2011 2:08pm
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Tis very quiet in here.
20 weeks to DM from Monday.
A bit of reading here if anyone is interested.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056285981

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#70 11-06-2011 7:18pm
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20 weeks to go:mad:, I just did Cork and am itching to go again. I'm also going for sub 3:30.

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#71 11-06-2011 7:59pm
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mrslow wrote: »

20 weeks to go:mad:, I just did Cork and am itching to go again. I'm also going for sub 3:30.

well for some with their 20 weeks to go , i've just got 15 now

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#72 11-06-2011 8:27pm
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shels4ever wrote: »

well for some with their 20 weeks to go , i've just got 15 now

Me too... 15 weeks. Berlin?

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#73 11-06-2011 8:29pm
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Marthastew wrote: »

Me too... 15 weeks. Berlin?

Yep so I was told today..

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#74 11-06-2011 8:36pm
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Lucky ye!!!

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#75 11-06-2011 8:37pm
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shels4ever wrote: »

Yep so I was told today..

Better get cracking then.....
not sure what time you're hoping for but the thread posted above by WODDLE has some great tips and is very interesting.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056285981

Good Luck over the next 15 weeks.

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#76 11-06-2011 8:40pm
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Marthastew wrote: »

Better get cracking then.....
not sure what time you're hoping for but the thread posted above by WODDLE has some great tips and is very interesting.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056285981

Good Luck over the next 15 weeks.

I started 30 weeks out so well into my plan at this stage .

Just have all the hard stuff still to do :

What time are you looking for?

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#77 11-06-2011 8:48pm
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shels4ever wrote: »

I started 30 weeks out so well into my plan at this stage .

Just have all the hard stuff still to do :

What time are you looking for?

My PB is 3.41 so anythng below that would be super, having said that Berlin is so fast .....I'm secretly hoping for 3.30.

As you say, all that's left is the hard stuff to do.
how about you? If you started 15 weeks ago you must be aiming for sub three?

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#78 11-06-2011 8:51pm
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Marthastew wrote: »

My PB is 3.41 so anythng below that would be super, having said that Berlin is so fast .....I'm secretly hoping for 3.30.

As you say, all that's left is the hard stuff to do.
how about you? If you started 15 weeks ago you must be aiming for sub three?

I wish was just in such bad shape, Havent set a target time yet, will know more in the next 10 weeks.

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#79 16-06-2011 4:26pm
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Hi,
I'm running Dingle in 11-ish weeks...did Cork in 3:52 2 weeks ago so thats the level I'm starting from...Any thought on this training plan (mixture of runners world plan and what I have time for....concern is that the miles/week is a little low??):

thanks!

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#80 16-06-2011 8:19pm
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POC123 wrote: »

Hi,
I'm running Dingle in 11-ish weeks...did Cork in 3:52 2 weeks ago so thats the level I'm starting from...Any thought on this training plan (mixture of runners world plan and what I have time for....concern is that the miles/week is a little low??):

thanks!

Where is the taper ??

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#81 16-06-2011 8:52pm
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Marthastew wrote: »

Me too... 15 weeks. Berlin?

Me too!!

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#82 28-06-2011 9:49am
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I'm planning on sticking to P&D 55mile/18week plan starting from yesterday's rest day.
Any fellow excel nerds out there already have the plan in excel format??
I have the book but I'd like to personalise the pace and distances by way of excel to make it more specific to my needs.
I can go create it myself but just hoping someone may have already done the grunt work??

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#83 28-06-2011 10:36am
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i am also doing the P&D 18 week plan. Taking it straight out of the book though

To be honest I started on a 22 week plan to gain some fitness back. Starting from a fresh this time. Build up from 30 - 42 miles, also got the Docklands run completed. I did it in 33.35 - Not Bad! Aiming for a 3.15 in Dublin.

Has everybody else started their training?

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#84 28-06-2011 10:41am
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potsy11 wrote: »

i am also doing the P&D 18 week plan. Taking it straight out of the book though

To be honest I started on a 22 week plan to gain some fitness back. Starting from a fresh this time. Build up from 30 - 42 miles, also got the Docklands run completed. I did it in 33.35 - Not Bad! Aiming for a 3.15 in Dublin.

Has everybody else started their training?

I'll be doing the 12 week schedule which served me well for Cork.

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#85 28-06-2011 10:41am
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yeah, 18 weeks today, time to start. I'm in the mood for more shorter distances, tbh, but it's time to STFU and get out there...

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#86 28-06-2011 10:45pm
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RayCun wrote: »

yeah, 18 weeks today, time to start. I'm in the mood for more shorter distances, tbh, but it's time to STFU and get out there...

Yes boss! Been a slow start over the last couple of weeks after a long time out due to illness and travelling... 8.5 miles knocked out already this week, now just to stay consistent.

Haven't decided what plan to follow yet, either Hal's Novice 2 or Inter 1, fitness level isn't up to much more...

Will stick my head in here whenever I can, not on Boards as much any more though.

Here's to marathon number 4!

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#87 03-07-2011 7:33pm
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Great idea for a thread!

Third marathon in a row for me.

Previous times:

DCM '09: 03:56 (was aiming for sub 4)
DCM '10: 03:43 (was aiming for sub 3:45)

I was delighted with these previous times and am looking to take it up a notch this year - secretly hoping for 03:30 but I think it will be a big ask. I did F all running before april of this year - may and june I've been getting in about 15-20 miles a week recovering from injury. (Injury picked up doing Connemarathon Half which was done with little or no training - bad bad idea people!). The legs feel good now so it's all steam ahead. I'm thinking I'll probably following HH Intermediary 1 or 2. I have the P&D book but there's still a bookmark on page 7

Best of luck to everyone's training!

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#88 04-07-2011 9:24am
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How fast is this? I couldn't find the definition in P&D yesterday...

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#89 04-07-2011 9:53am
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RayCun wrote: »

How fast is this? I couldn't find the definition in P&D yesterday...

I use Daniels training tables. According to him easy aerobic is 70-75% of MHR, moderate aerobic is 78% of max and hi aerobic is 81% of max. These figures are for me, everyones will be slightly different based on projected race times, age etc.. I'm using rev.3 which can be found here www.electricblues.com/html/runpro.html

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#90 04-07-2011 12:28pm
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RayCun wrote: »

How fast is this? I couldn't find the definition in P&D yesterday...

Good question Ray. Would be interested to know peoples thoughts on this as well. This is not the speed session of the week so wondering how it should be compared to your PMP?

As they are generally over 10 miles as well I think it's important to approach them right. I did think though I saw a paragraph on them in the book. Will check later when I have access.

From memory I think they recommend they should be a steady run but not as slow as an LSR.

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#91 04-07-2011 12:42pm
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RayCun wrote: »

How fast is this? I couldn't find the definition in P&D yesterday...

Slower than PMP but faster than recovery. If your PMP is 8 min/mile, you are talking in the 8.15-8.45 min/mile range. In terms of HR it is about 75-80% Max HR

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