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Capitalising Titles

  • 28-04-2011 3:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭


    Hello, looking for a bit of help here.

    Should a person's title (specifically military titles) be capitalised in direct address?

    I can't see anything, Lieutenant.

    or

    I can't see anything, lieutenant.


Comments

  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I'm almost sure it should.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    From a Columbo fan website, here's a transcript snippit:

    "Do you enjoy games, Lieutenant?"

    "I've never had time for them, sir..."

    That settles it for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,587 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    If directly addressing them by their title in place of their name, yes.

    "I can't see anything, Lieutenant." vs "I told the lieutenant I couldn't see anything".

    "...Because Daddy does the washing up" vs "I became a daddy today".


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Orion101


    Thanks for the replies.

    Now what about the likes of sir, or dear (which I guess are serving as pronouns)?

    Yes, sir.

    or

    Yes, Sir.


    Yes, dear.

    or

    Yes, Dear.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    If the person's title is Sir Jimmy then they would potentially have a capital S for Sir, but you can't really use a titular Sir without at least the first name after it. So in practical terms you wouldn't have "Yes, Sir."

    "Dear" is not a title and would not have a capital D.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭Orion101


    I seem to have fallen victim of lazy examples : )

    So if "sir" was being used by a private to refer to a lieutenant, it shouldn't be capitalised?

    There seems to be some debate over terms of endearment "dear", "honey" etc. Can anyone shed some light or suggest a web reference?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,587 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    There's no right or wrong, it's a style issue. Check out the Oxford Style Guide or Chicago Manual of Style and go with them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    If the person's title is Sir Jimmy then they would potentially have a capital S for Sir, but you can't really use a titular Sir without at least the first name after it. So in practical terms you wouldn't have "Yes, Sir."

    "Dear" is not a title and would not have a capital D.

    Except in a letter, where you would have "Dear Sir or Madam."


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    All words at the beginning of a sentence have a capital letter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    All words at the beginning of a sentence have a capital letter.

    Except for Sir or Madam in addressing someone in a letter.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Except for Sir or Madam in addressing someone in a letter.

    Sorry, I thought you were referring to the second line of my post.


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