Klitschko-Haye in doubt yet again, Press conferences cancelled....

Dodd

What am I seeing on sky one.
David Haye messing around in a ring with Justin Beaver or what ever his name is.

StevePH

That was a bizarrrrrrrre show. Started off weird with Haye being interviewed by Michael McIntyre - WTF. Ended with Haye becomin the interviewer...for Beiber and Dizzee Rascal

corny

Reading the last couple of pages of this thread it strikes me so many people are drawn in by the hype. Thought people would see through the Rocky music and Ivan Drago-Wlad comparison. Wouldn't it be hilarious if they got Wlad to say "I must break you" or "If he dies, he dies"!

The fight centres around whether Haye can land some decent shots. He won't be winning on points in Germany but he has the power to trouble Wlads suspect chin. Think he's a bit too cautious though and Wlad will grind it out comfortably on points for me. Hope i'm wrong but be warned this will be a boring fight. Two very cagey fighters.

handsomecake

i have a very limited boxing knowledge and never post in this forum but ill sum up my feelings like this:

i hope haye gets his head kicked in.

CorkMan

corny wrote: »

Reading the last couple of pages of this thread it strikes me so many people are drawn in by the hype. Thought people would see through the Rocky music and Ivan Drago-Wlad comparison. Wouldn't it be hilarious if they got Wlad to say "I must break you" or "If he dies, he dies"!

The fight centres around whether Haye can land some decent shots. He won't be winning on points in Germany but he has the power to trouble Wlads suspect chin. Think he's a bit too cautious though and Wlad will grind it out comfortably on points for me. Hope i'm wrong but be warned this will be a boring fight. Two very cagey fighters.

I disagree. I think Haye will make it far from a boring fight, I think he will go straight at Wladimir because Wladimir wouldn't know what to do. He would be so used to using the jab from range, etc.

I think if Wlad get's knocked down once or twice and gets up, his default gameplan would be very shook up.

gene_tunney

handsomecake wrote: »

i have a very limited boxing knowledge and never post in this forum but ill sum up my feelings like this:

i hope haye gets his head kicked in.

You are most welcome here.

gene_tunney

So close I can taste it brotatoes

djhaxman

handsomecake wrote: »

i have a very limited boxing knowledge and never post in this forum but ill sum up my feelings like this:

i hope haye gets his head kicked in.

I hope for Wlad v Samuel Peter part 1. With a different ending though.

evil_seed

Any idea what time they'll be touching gloves at?

Kerrydude1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihJqR7Z3BZQ

Johner

evil_seed wrote: »

Any idea what time they'll be touching gloves at?

10pm

MisterCadbury

I seriously do not understand all the Haye hate, I mean Wlad is one of the most boring heavy weight champions in the history of the sport who is partly responsible for the stagnation of boxing in the public eye over the past ten years. I mean seriously, jab jab jab does not make for exciting fights. And I will be honest, he could be best boxer in the world , if his fights are boring people won't care, that's why most common people couldn't tell you who the heavy weight world champion is. The heavy weight division is dead , I mean guys like Holyfield still fighting for titles is embarrassing, Haye is breathing life into a lifeless division.

Haye sells fights, regardless of how he does, sure he runs his mouth, but do people forget Ali? The king of running his mouth and yet now he is venerated.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

handsomecake wrote: »

i have a very limited boxing knowledge and never post in this forum but ill sum up my feelings like this:

i hope haye gets his head kicked in.

Rule no.1: You're not allowed kick.:pac:

corny

CorkMan wrote: »

I disagree. I think Haye will make it far from a boring fight, I think he will go straight at Wladimir because Wladimir wouldn't know what to do. He would be so used to using the jab from range, etc.

I think if Wlad get's knocked down once or twice and gets up, his default gameplan would be very shook up.

You make it sound so easy. As if going at Klitschko, a man with a huge reach advantage and the best jab i've ever seen, is easy!

Klitschko has been in twice as many professional fights. He's a thinking mans fighter if ever there was one. There's no way a man with such limited experience at Heavyweight will get him flustered. Whats more likely is Haye for the first time in his career gets hit by a proper heavyweight and gets shaken up.

Klitschko may be a safety first fighter but unlike the 4 bums Haye has fought at Heavyweight he's heavy handed. For me Haye and Booth know this and they'll want to avoid any toe to toe stuff as much as possible. Klitschko was born cagey, Haye has no choice.

sendit

Would love to see Klitschko knock Hayes head off cant stand him!

fightireland

Howdy,

We just spoke with Paddy Power who told us that this has become the biggest fight of all time :eek::eek:

Full Story is here if you want to have a look: www.fightireland.com

mastini

Any of you gents know if I can order this fight on UPC? Neither Sky or UPCs sites have been helpful so I suspect the answer is no

SanoVitae

If that's true, David Haye deserves all the credit because his big mouth is responsible for the fight happening in the first place.

Can you imagine how big a fight between a victorious Haye and avenging big brother Vitali would be?! :eek:

s_carnage

mastini wrote: »

Any of you gents know if I can order this fight on UPC? Neither Sky or UPCs sites have been helpful so I suspect the answer is no

Don't think you can with UPC but PM sent about an alternative

fightireland

Madness, well I can only go on what I'm hearing but that is mad! I guess the lack of football or decent racing on would attract punters but biggest of all time is some feat.

Agreed - I reckon Hayes next three fights are against Klitschkos either way :rolleyes:

munster87

I can only see this being his last fight when Wladimir knocks him out

Its definitely not the biggest fight of all time. The only reason its a big fight because there is no other fight out there besides Pacquiao V Mayweather.

Richard Hillman

You should be able to order it on UPC. Go to the PPV channel and ring the number on the screen or just ring up UPC customer service, its probably the same number. I will advise to order NOW. For Mayweather-Hatton i was trying to order from 3 o clock that saturday until 1 in the morning. I spent the whole day sitting on the stairs drinking :pac:

getz

what is the chance of haye winning on points,the ref is hand picked by klitschiko ,as for the judges who knows,on home soil,its well known that its dam near impossible to get a decision in germany,haye has to knock him out,

TiGeR KiNgS

It just shows how weak heavy weight division has become.

Johner

getz wrote: »

what is the chance of haye winning on points,the ref is hand picked by klitschiko ,as for the judges who knows,on home soil,its well known that its dam near impossible to get a decision in germany,haye has to knock him out,

Haye has no chance on points imo and it will be nothing to do with the judges. He needs a KO no matter what.

Gandalph

g'wan the Haye!

Johner

MisterCadbury wrote: »

I seriously do not understand all the Haye hate, I mean Wlad is one of the most boring heavy weight champions in the history of the sport who is partly responsible for the stagnation of boxing in the public eye over the past ten years. I mean seriously, jab jab jab does not make for exciting fights. And I will be honest, he could be best boxer in the world , if his fights are boring people won't care, that's why most common people couldn't tell you who the heavy weight world champion is. The heavy weight division is dead , I mean guys like Holyfield still fighting for titles is embarrassing, Haye is breathing life into a lifeless division.

Haye sells fights, regardless of how he does, sure he runs his mouth, but do people forget Ali? The king of running his mouth and yet now he is venerated.

What exactly has Haye done for the heavyweight division? You make it sound as if he is cleaning the division up.

First he fought Monte Barrett who was never any good.

He fought Valuev, who was one of the worst champions ever and just about won.

then he has fought Ruiz who was seriously past it.

Next he fought the great Audley Harrison.

For all Haye's slagging of Wlad fighting nobodies Haye has fought worse opposition by far.

Oh and Haye is going to retire in November, he has done **** all for the heavyweight division in my eyes. He has just been hyped up by Sky Sports.

Bodhisopha

It's going to be very LOL when Klitschko turns Haye's legs to jelly with a stiff jab.

Johner

Followed Haye on Twitter this morning to see if he said anything about the weight in,

Great the weight in is in a few hours! but that comment is followed by him saying he is looking at himself in the mirror and telling us how ripped he is,followed a few hours later by a picture of him getting his hair braided. ffs

walshb

Fight is a pick em IMO. Haye has very decent speed, and quite good power. Both are traits that can undo Wlad. Haye's stamina is still in doubt I feel.

super_furry

Christ how embarassing are those Ing-er-land fans?

Kerrydude1981

Did Sky buy them fans tickets for the weigh in and fill them up with drink.

califano

Thread title needs editing imo. Dont want to be putting the heart across folk who buy the fight and log on here.

iii Stevo iii

Haye - 15stone 3 pounds
Klitschko - 17stone 5 pounds

In and out for Haye so. Hopefully more in than out.

fightireland

walshb wrote: »

Fight is a pick em IMO. Haye has very decent speed, and quite good power. Both are traits that can undo Wlad. Haye's stamina is still in doubt I feel.

I agree I think if Haye can maintain a furious pace for most of the fight - with his hand speed and power he can unsettle Klitschko and yes even grab a decision!

nacho libre

SanoVitae wrote: »

I just don't think Haye hits anything near as hard as the likes of the Sky Sports team would have us believe.

I hope I'm totally wrong because I really like Haye and have been following his career since the Thompson fight.

He may not hit as hard as the fawning sky sports suggests, but he has good power. We saw what happened when Sanders, who probably doesn't punch as powerfully as Haye, caught Wlad on the chin.
The fact is Wlad is in big trouble if Haye does manage to land a decent punch on his chin.

That said while Haye does seem to have good speed, Wlad is quick for a big man. Haye won't find it as easy to evade Wlad as he did Valuev and get in and out without eating a punishing jab from Wlad.

keitho h

Ail or foremen would ko the two of them at same time

cotton

Hi, Lurker here. This is probably going to sound like a very stupid question to those that know.
Is there anyway to watch the fight on another channel or online, or is the only way to buy it from Sky?
Sorry if I'm being a thicko.:o

Bodhisopha

cotton wrote: »

Hi, Lurker here. This is probably going to sound like a very stupid question to those that know.
Is there anyway to watch the fight on another channel or online, or is the only way to buy it from Sky?
Sorry if I'm being a thicko.:o

Free on german television if you have a dish and set top box.

I'm sure you could find a stream online too, i don't know any of those websites though. People usually post up links on the night of the fight.

cotton

Thanks for that. Unfortunately I've only got Sky so I guess I'll be glued to this forum on saturday night.:)

Dermo

cotton wrote: »

Thanks for that. Unfortunately I've only got Sky so I guess I'll be glued to this forum on saturday night.:)

It's on early enough to be on in bars and pubs.
Apart from that someone will probably post a streaming link on the night.

walshb

fightireland wrote: »

I agree I think if Haye can maintain a furious pace for most of the fight - with his hand speed and power he can unsettle Klitschko and yes even grab a decision!

Yes, too many believe that if it goes the 12 that Wlad will win.

Haye is elusive, slick, fast and can be very cute when he needs to.

He could well steal this with the right plan; fast attacks, in and out and on the bike. He has very good feet for a big guy

cowzerp

walshb wrote: »

He could well steal this with the right plan; fast attacks, in and out and on the bike. He has very good feet for a big guy

No just No

he'll most likely be knocked out by a jab

cowzerp

could a mod change the title, its pointless now

nacho libre

walshb wrote: »

Yes, too many believe that if it goes the 12 that Wlad will win.

Haye is elusive, slick, fast and can be very cute when he needs to.

He could well steal this with the right plan; fast attacks, in and out and on the bike. He has very good feet for a big guy

Stamina as you previously mentioned is a big issue here. The longer it goes, the odds favour Klitschko due to his natural advantages. Also the huge fact the fight is in Germany. Haye simply cannot afford to leave it in the hands of the judges. Just ask Holyfield, he comprehensively beat Valuev and still the judges saw fit to award the fight to Valuev.

I think you're also reading too much into Haye's pasts performances with his ability to get in and out without being tagged. Wlad, while not as fast as Haye, is agile on his feet for a big guy. It was easy for Haye to do an Ali impression against Valuev. It won't be so against Wlad.
Haye has to risk being the aggressor from the get go to win. If Wlad is allowed to settle into his rhythm it could be a a difficult night for Haye.

Anybody else hearing anything about Haye being hurt ?

the drifter

Deleted User wrote: »

Anybody else hearing anything about Haye being hurt ?

Arent you posting that a day early? :p

chuky_r_law

does anyone know what time the fight will start at? i know the coverage starts at 8pm but hoping to slip out from work and watch it but need to know exactly the time it starts

walshb

Hey, I would make Wlad a favorite, but Haye will have a chance, an early cahnace, and if he can land flush and heavy, who knows? It's heavyweight boxing after all. We can't be too dismissive of Haye's chances. Wlad has hardly set the world on fire. Haye hasn't either.