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2011 CAO/Leaving Cert discussion thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    Boland not coming up was hilarious, the facebook groups in response to it absolutely cracked me up! My sister is doing the exams this year and everyone in her class is 100% convinced Boland is coming up, would be interesting if she didn't again.

    It was but last year was a year where no woman up was possible because there was only two of them (Boland and Rich).

    I think half the course is women this year and it is going to be interesting how many women and men come up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    unknown13 wrote: »
    It was but last year was a year where no woman up was possible because there was only two of them (Boland and Rich).

    I think half the course is women this year and it is going to be interesting how many women and men come up.

    I think this year it's five men and three women (Boland, Dickinson and Rich), so it's possible that there won't be a female poet but I suppose unlikely. Dickinson hasn't been on the course in a while and, so the logic goes, is due to come up, and I've yet to talk to an LCer who doesn't insist that Boland will make an appearance! :pac: Personally I'd love to be doing the poets from this year, although last year's selection wasn't too shabby. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    I think this year it's five men and three women (Boland, Dickinson and Rich), so it's possible that there won't be a female poet but I suppose unlikely. Dickinson hasn't been on the course in a while and, so the logic goes, is due to come up, and I've yet to talk to an LCer who doesn't insist that Boland will make an appearance! :pac: Personally I'd love to be doing the poets from this year, although last year's selection wasn't too shabby. :)

    I enjoyed last years selection but I didn't really enjoy English that much. It wasn't a strong subject of mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Grindylow


    I think this year it's five men and three women (Boland, Dickinson and Rich), so it's possible that there won't be a female poet but I suppose unlikely. Dickinson hasn't been on the course in a while and, so the logic goes, is due to come up, and I've yet to talk to an LCer who doesn't insist that Boland will make an appearance! :pac: Personally I'd love to be doing the poets from this year, although last year's selection wasn't too shabby. :)

    "I felt a funeral - in my brain
    And mourners to and fro"

    >_> She's very deep so Dickinson is

    "Hope is a thing with feathers
    that perches in the soul
    That sings the tune without the words
    And never stops at all"

    AND WAIT FOR THIS ONE

    "I heard a fly buzz - when I died
    The stillness in the room"

    Sentimental so she is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    I miss English. :(

    What does everyone think of Hamlet, by the way? I did Macbeth in '09 and King Lear in '10, Macbeth was a million times better! But Hamlet is my second favourite Shakespearian play (after Macbeth.) How is it to study as a single text? :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Grindylow


    I miss English. :(

    What does everyone think of Hamlet, by the way? I did Macbeth in '09 and King Lear in '10, Macbeth was a million times better! But Hamlet is my second favourite Shakespearian play (after Macbeth.) How is it to study as a single text? :)

    Never did either of them! :P

    My single text is Wuthering Heights. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    Emily Dickinson is one of my favourite poets! This year's LCers are so lucky getting to study her.

    Hamlet must be class to do; not only is it a rather enjoyable play, but I assume everyone gets to watch the BBC version with David Tennant in it :pac:

    What Shakespeare play did you do Noel? I'd hate to have to have done one of them for the comparative >.<


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    Ah, I <3 Wuthering Heights! Is your Shakespearian play The Tempest in the comparative, then? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Grindylow


    Emily Dickinson is one of my favourite poets! This year's LCers are so lucky getting to study her.

    Hamlet must be class to do; not only is it a rather enjoyable play, but I assume everyone gets to watch the BBC version with David Tennant in it :pac:

    I love Dickinson! Everyone else seems to hate her!

    And my teacher always marks my essays on her terribly because my view of her poetry is totally different to hers. :( She sees Dickinson as a loner, and that's it.

    I always write about how I feel she was depressed, borderline mentally unstable. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    God damnit, The Tempest is AMAZING.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    Noel: You are lucky you don't have to Lear, it was the bane of my life. I barely understood it and only prepped one question for the exam. It came up thankfully but it was risk I had to take because I didn't understand it at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Grindylow


    Ah, I <3 Wuthering Heights! Is your Shakespearian play The Tempest in the comparative, then? :)

    Yup, it is! I hate it so much! :( There are like a million characters in it and it's so hard to keep track of who's related to who/who is who's lover/who dies/who betrays one another..

    I hope I can get away with using My Sisters Keeper and Billy Elliot as my main texts in the comparative and just touch on The Tempest but I seriously doubt I'd get away with it! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    I bloody love Hamlet. Some of the lines are just amazing and I find it really easy to write about for some reason. He's so complex.... We watched the Kenneth Branagh one, waaay better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    Emily Dickinson is one of my favourite poets! This year's LCers are so lucky getting to study her.

    Hamlet must be class to do; not only is it a rather enjoyable play, but I assume everyone gets to watch the BBC version with David Tennant in it :pac:

    Oh you should see the lad who played Hamlet in the Helix. BABE. He fluffed his lines a few times, and I forgave him, for a thing of such beauty is clearly not of this world.

    I did Circle of Friends for my comparative in '09. Never again, not only was it an awful book but it was so long, way too long for the comparative. Apart from that I think I liked pretty much everything I did in English over the two years, although I might just think that looking back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    Noel2k9 wrote: »
    I love Dickinson! Everyone else seems to hate her!

    And my teacher always marks my essays on her terribly because my view of her poetry is totally different to hers. :( She sees Dickinson as a loner, and that's it.

    I always write about how I feel she was depressed, borderline mentally unstable. :P
    I don't think she was mentally unstable personally; I think she was probably quite upbeat! But everyone responds to poetry differently, and finds different meanings within it. Mad that your teacher marks you down though because of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    Noel2k9 wrote: »
    Yup, it is! I hate it so much! :( There are like a million characters in it and it's so hard to keep track of who's related to who/who is who's lover/who dies/who betrays one another..

    I hope I can get away with using My Sisters Keeper and Billy Elliot as my main texts in the comparative and just touch on The Tempest but I seriously doubt I'd get away with it! :P

    I'd say you could get away with that a lot more than you'd think :pac: The best thing about the comparative is that they're not really expecting in depth analysis of anything, there's no time for it. You'll be graaaaand, trust me! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    I am jealous about this year's poets though, at least we get Plath <3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Grindylow


    I don't think she was mentally unstable personally; I think she was probably quite upbeat! But everyone responds to poetry differently, and finds different meanings within it. Mad that your teacher marks you down though because of that.

    Yeah, I just instantly took it that way for some reason! It's the easiest way for me to explain her, but in poems like "I could bring you jewels" and "Hope is a thing with feathers" she seems fairly upbeat!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    I did Witness (<3 <3), Lies of Silence, and How Many Miles to Babylon for my comparative. Wasn't a fan of the books, but Witness was class. Oh John Book ;__;


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    Namlub wrote: »
    I am jealous about this year's poets though, at least we get Plath <3

    If there's one poet I would have loved to have done, it's Plath. she's my favourite! :D Which of her poems are on the course? :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    I am not jealous about this years selection of poets because if I didn't get the course I did get, I would be repeating my LC this year.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    unknown13 wrote: »
    I am not jealous about this years selection of poets because if I didn't get the course I did get, I would be repeating my LC this year.

    Who are the poets this year?

    I loved the selection we had in 2007. <3 Plath.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    If there's one poet I would have loved to have done, it's Plath. she's my favourite! :D Which of her poems are on the course? :)
    Black Book in Rainy Weather, The Times Are Tidy, Morning Song, Finisterre, Mirror, Pheasant, Elm, Poppies In July, The Arrival of the Bee Box and Child.

    Not sure which ones we're actually doing yet, I wish Daddy was on the course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Grindylow


    Who are the poets this year?

    I loved the selection we had in 2007. <3 Plath.

    Dickinson, Boland, Rich, Frost, Yeats, Kavanagh, Hopkins, Wordsworth. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    I loved the selection we had in 2007. <3 Plath.

    Snap. They were great. Even Elizabeth Bishop :P

    Jesus IO, we're old >.<


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭almostnever


    Who are the poets this year?

    I loved the selection we had in 2007. <3 Plath.

    Boland, Dickinson, Rich, Frost, Wordsworth, Hopkins, Kavanagh and Yeats. :)

    Namlub: Daddy would be a great one to be on! They should have I Am Vertical too, even if only because it's one of my favourites of hers. :p And Lady Lazarus! What I would have given to have done Lady Lazarus. <3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    My teacher does not like the fact I keep criticising Kavanagh in my essays <_<

    And why does Boland come up so much? I like some of her stuff, not that black lace fan one...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,919 ✭✭✭Grindylow


    Namlub wrote: »
    My teacher does not like the fact I keep criticising Kavanagh in my essays <_<

    And why does Boland come up so much? I like some of her stuff, not that black lace fan one...

    Black Lace Fan is grand.. way too personal though! :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    The only Boland poem I liked was The Famine Road. The rest is kinda...I dunno, it seems superficial, especially her political themed stuff (Child of our Time, for example).

    Frost is my favourite, with Dickinson in close second.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    Daddy and Lady Lazarus are probably a bit too hardcore :rolleyes: for the LC. Sadly.


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