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What to do when confronted by scumbags

  • 01-05-2011 9:58pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 29


    So, walking home from the Luas tonight, and saw a large group of teenagers. I'm 25 myself, so there shouldn't be any problem, but I just knew they'd try something. Kept my head down, avoided them as best I could, next thing I know there was a large thwump, they threw something which just missed me (and judging from the sound, would've done some serious damage had it made contact). Next they threw a mobile phone (I'm not sure why they'd do that). That also missed. Nothing damaged, so I just walked on, after giving them a glare.

    My question: Should I have done something? Or would I have risked getting the sh*t kicked out of me? And by not doing anything, have I just made them think it's okay/cool/funny to do it to the next guy that passes?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Pick up the free phone and carry on along your way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭God...


    Blast them with piss


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    Pretend to have a seizure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Marcus_Crassus


    If there's a large group definitely walk away! They will kick lumps out of you if you confront them. They're only dying for you to react.

    In conclusion: You made the right choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,592 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Tell them Santa is dead.

    Best to keep walking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Violafy


    You should have taken the phone and ran onto the nearest Luas...


    Failing that, you probably did the right thing. Don't let them think they're intimidating you and just ignore them. The scumbags were just looking for a bit of attention. If you'd taken them on, they probably would have just cowered in fear, the cowards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Walk away*.

    *Unless of course you enjoy getting the sh1te knocked out of ya, then confront away!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    rubabbel wrote: »
    So, walking home from the Luas tonight, and saw a large group of teenagers. I'm 25 myself, so there shouldn't be any problem, but I just knew they'd try something. Kept my head down, avoided them as best I could, next thing I know there was a large thwump, they threw something which just missed me (and judging from the sound, would've done some serious damage had it made contact). Next they threw a mobile phone (I'm not sure why they'd do that). That also missed. Nothing damaged, so I just walked on, after giving them a glare.

    My question: Should I have done something? Or would I have risked getting the sh*t kicked out of me? And by not doing anything, have I just made them think it's okay/cool/funny to do it to the next guy that passes?

    I find walking with your head high(confidently) though not paying attetion to them is what i do -

    I think you did the right thing - you didnt get hurt - a large group will have no problem trappling your head in if you confront them -


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Not sure it would have mattered. I doubt they were trying to miss ya to get a reaction and then bash ya. They obviously wanted to hurt ya.
    A group that size you'd want to be pretty sure you can handle yourself* or have amazin health insurance. Walk on and let the guards know.

    *i suspect only chuck norris could only handle a group that size


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 644 ✭✭✭wolf moon


    rubabbel wrote: »
    My question: Should I have done something? Or would I have risked getting the sh*t kicked out of me? And by not doing anything, have I just made them think it's okay/cool/funny to do it to the next guy that passes?
    if you are 100% capable of defending yourself if they attack /including weapons/ - yeah why not


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    rubabbel wrote: »
    So, walking home from the Luas tonight, and saw a large group of teenagers. I'm 25 myself, so there shouldn't be any problem, but I just knew they'd try something. Kept my head down, avoided them as best I could, next thing I know there was a large thwump, they threw something which just missed me (and judging from the sound, would've done some serious damage had it made contact). Next they threw a mobile phone (I'm not sure why they'd do that). That also missed. Nothing damaged, so I just walked on, after giving them a glare.

    My question: Should I have done something? Or would I have risked getting the sh*t kicked out of me? And by not doing anything, have I just made them think it's okay/cool/funny to do it to the next guy that passes?

    Large groups of teenages throw things and miss because they are normally afraid to throw something and hit someone or start a proper fight.

    In short it was a group of lads trying to prove how hard and ladish they were.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    God... wrote: »
    Blast them with piss

    This meme is as stale as the piss on the floor of a public toilet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Fulton Crown


    Walk away*.

    *Unless of course you enjoy getting the sh1te knocked out of ya, then confront away!

    Never confront a group...you don't know what weapons they is carrying ....

    Chances is that one of them will have a knife and will use on you ....of course he will end up in court where he will apologise to your family and say "I never intended to kill him".

    And your teenage relatives will have an opportunity to put on loads of mascara.cry and hug one another ,leave flowers on the spot where you died and appear on page 5 of The Evening Herald.

    It's the way it is pal ................


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭CharlesHaughey


    If there's a large group definitely walk away! They will kick lumps out of you if you confront them. They're only dying for you to react.

    In conclusion: You made the right choice.

    This would sort that out. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    rubabbel wrote: »
    So, walking home from the Luas tonight, and saw a large group of teenagers. I'm 25 myself, so there shouldn't be any problem, but I just knew they'd try something. Kept my head down, avoided them as best I could, next thing I know there was a large thwump, they threw something which just missed me (and judging from the sound, would've done some serious damage had it made contact). Next they threw a mobile phone (I'm not sure why they'd do that). That also missed. Nothing damaged, so I just walked on, after giving them a glare.

    My question: Should I have done something? Or would I have risked getting the sh*t kicked out of me? And by not doing anything, have I just made them think it's okay/cool/funny to do it to the next guy that passes?

    F***ing Sandyford..........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Ev84


    Do what this guy in the black and yellow tracksuit does :pac:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    I always carry my lady hammer in my handbag for such occasions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    My dad- who was from a rough area gave me great advice-

    ALWAYS have one hand in your pocket wrapped around a bunch of keys with the largest key (car key) poking out between the index and middle fingers.
    This gives the illusion you may or may not have something dangerous on you - scumbags will never chance getting into real danger and if one does attack you- aim the key into the throat or eyeball of the biggest guy or whoever looks like the leader - most times the guy closest to u.

    Walk with yr head down and eyes up - think John Waynes eyes- like as if yr trying to look into the sun and clench yr jaw. I don't know why but it makes you look pissed off- as apposed to scared which is what they're looking for.

    If they throw stuff at you- just walk on and ignore it- they're looking to start a fight- most likely they've done the same thing to anyone who walked past them before you. When you get somewhere safe call the gardai.


    This advice has never set me wrong - so must be good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 rubabbel


    F***ing Sandyford..........

    Stephen's Green, actually!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    rubabbel wrote: »
    So, walking home from the Luas tonight, and saw a large group of teenagers. I'm 25 myself, so there shouldn't be any problem, but I just knew they'd try something. Kept my head down, avoided them as best I could, next thing I know there was a large thwump, they threw something which just missed me (and judging from the sound, would've done some serious damage had it made contact). Next they threw a mobile phone (I'm not sure why they'd do that). That also missed. Nothing damaged, so I just walked on, after giving them a glare.

    My question: Should I have done something? Or would I have risked getting the sh*t kicked out of me? And by not doing anything, have I just made them think it's okay/cool/funny to do it to the next guy that passes?
    You did the right thing by walking on you were obviously out numbered,lucky for you both missiles missed,never retaliate with scumbags unless your confronted face to face and dont have a choise,then unlease fcuking hell,even if you get beatin,take at least one of them with you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 513 ✭✭✭leddpipe


    id be a fairly scorpy kont and dont like people trying to intimidate me, but these little ****ers are like jackals, give them one chance and they will dance on your head!you very very much did the correct thing, I wouldn't have even made eye contact tbh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 rubabbel


    I guess maybe the answer for the long term would be learn some self defense. What's a lady hammer though?

    I thought once you were 25 or so, teenage kids tended to ignore you/forget you were there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Kill them with fire!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭sparks24


    A good run is better than a bad stand dont ever forget it ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    I have seen a lot of the world.

    The Dublin ruffian is right up their with the worst anywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭The Brigadier


    Kill them with fire!

    Nah, take off and nuke them from orbit, its the only way to be sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Conor Dunne


    Walking on is the only option so you were right..on your own so crazy to confront a group of people.....sorry, scumbags!!!!! I hope there luck runs out soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭CharlesHaughey


    Have their mothers singing "It's so HAAAWRD" in one big choir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    rubabbel wrote: »
    I guess maybe the answer for the long term would be learn some self defense. What's a lady hammer though?

    I thought once you were 25 or so, teenage kids tended to ignore you/forget you were there.

    Floral-Beautiful-Lady-Hammer-2414338778.jpg

    My husband got me one in Michael Guineys (not for self defense) but it is handy around the house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    We could have been reading a very sad story about you in the papers tomorrow. Thank whatever God you believe in that we are not.
    Glad to hear you are ok OP.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    By large group I imagine there was at least 8 of them, even they are only 15 years old then you won't be fancying your chances against 8 of them. Always walk on if possible, it's the best way 100% of the time.

    In saying that they may or may not sh1t themselves when challenged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Scum only understand confidence. They prey on the weak. Pick up the phone turn around and march towards them with rage and indignation in your eyes, wave the phone in their faces and ask them what the **** that was, then when they cower call them all pricks and walk away.

    Never live in fear again...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭alan89


    You should of skipped towards them. Nothing scares scumbags more than their own homophobia!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,532 ✭✭✭WolfForager


    I could never understand the mentality of groups like these... What do they get out of it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    rubabbel wrote: »
    So, walking home from the Luas tonight, and saw a large group of teenagers. I'm 25 myself, so there shouldn't be any problem, but I just knew they'd try something. Kept my head down, avoided them as best I could, next thing I know there was a large thwump, they threw something which just missed me (and judging from the sound, would've done some serious damage had it made contact). Next they threw a mobile phone (I'm not sure why they'd do that). That also missed. Nothing damaged, so I just walked on, after giving them a glare.

    My question: Should I have done something? Or would I have risked getting the sh*t kicked out of me? And by not doing anything, have I just made them think it's okay/cool/funny to do it to the next guy that passes?

    Headbutt the biggest one in the mouth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭double GG




    Stand your ground and fight.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Glenster wrote: »
    Scum only understand confidence. They prey on the weak. Pick up the phone turn around and march towards them with rage and indignation in your eyes, wave the phone in their faces and ask them what the **** that was, then when they cower call them all pricks and walk away.

    Never live in fear again...

    All well and good but they have already sussed out the OP isn't the type to do that before they threw the first object ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    RoverJames wrote: »
    All well and good but they have already sussed out the OP isn't the type to do that before they threw the first object ;)

    I'm not saying front up to them on spec.....that's a sure way to get killed.

    But scum who throw stuff after you've walked by will not attack someone who turns around and represents. Believe that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭kkdela6


    Glenster wrote: »
    Scum only understand confidence. They prey on the weak. Pick up the phone turn around and march towards them with rage and indignation in your eyes, wave the phone in their faces and ask them what the **** that was, then when they cower call them all pricks and walk away.

    Never live in fear again...

    that is not always true. some of the real rough scumbags love a good challenging fight.

    an idea ive heard is, if your brave/stupid (debatable) enough, walk up to a group of scumbags you know should be in jail by now, have a friend videotape the whole altercation, take a baytin if possible then bring the footage to the guards.
    hard evidence and names? surely somehting might be done about it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    There's nothing you can do about it, take your abuse and like it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭strokemyclover


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Pretend to have a seizure.

    I wish epilepsy upon you Keith!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,127 ✭✭✭✭Leeg17


    Say no.
    Get away.
    and tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    kkdela6 wrote: »
    that is not always true. some of the real rough scumbags love a good challenging fight.

    an idea ive heard is, if your brave/stupid (debatable) enough, walk up to a group of scumbags you know should be in jail by now, have a friend videotape the whole altercation, take a baytin if possible then bring the footage to the guards.
    hard evidence and names? surely somehting might be done about it

    Proper rough scumbags who'd knife ya. True. Just do your best to avoid them.

    But little orphan knick-knacks who throw stuff at you, get involved son!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Tonyandthewhale


    Glenster wrote: »
    Scum only understand confidence. They prey on the weak. Pick up the phone turn around and march towards them with rage and indignation in your eyes, wave the phone in their faces and ask them what the **** that was, then when they cower call them all pricks and walk away.

    Never live in fear again...

    Fixed your post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭yoshytoshy


    Worst thing you could do is acknowledge them. They're not there if you don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Donal Og O Baelach


    Glenster wrote: »
    Scum only understand confidence. They prey on the weak. Pick up the phone turn around and march towards them with rage and indignation in your eyes, wave the phone in their faces and ask them what the **** that was, then when they cower call them all pricks and walk away.

    Never live in fear again...

    Why bother? Just walk on - Op need prove NOTHING to these lightweights. You are sadly naive to imagine they would "cower", they would relish the chance for a challenge to prove their "Scarface" credentials.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭doomed


    Glenster wrote: »
    Scum only understand confidence. They prey on the weak. Pick up the phone turn around and march towards them with rage and indignation in your eyes, wave the phone in their faces and ask them what the **** that was, then when they cower call them all pricks and walk away.

    Never live in fear again...


    Confidence is SFA use if there are 8 of them and one of you. I suspect they are feeling pretty optimistic themselves.

    Years ago when I was studying martial arts the instructor was really clear on this issue. If you can run away do so. This was from a guy who could break contrete blocks with his fist.

    One advantage you have over the average scumbag is intelligence. Use it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭kkdela6


    i just dont get the mentality of scumbags.
    'jaysus, being an absolute dickhead and making people miserable is some craic. i think i might start doing it on a daily basis'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    scum never start without backup, who's to say if you floored one of them you would'nt get a screwdriver in the head from the one that sneaked up behind you?...

    always ignore unless you are cornered. ye you felt a bit powerless at the time but at least you avoided any hassle...some of these pricks don't give a stuff whether they kill you or not...in fact they would get a pat on the back from their mates if they did murder you....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    doomed wrote: »
    Confidence is SFA use if there are 8 of them and one of you. I suspect they are feeling pretty optimistic themselves.

    Years ago when I was studying martial arts the instructor was really clear on this issue. If you can run away do so. This was from a guy who could break contrete blocks with his fist.

    One advantage you have over the average scumbag is intelligence. Use it.

    What if patrick pearse had that attitude, we'd all be speaking german now, wouldn't we?


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