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Osama Bin Laden and Islamic Burial

  • 02-05-2011 11:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭


    Hi. I was just wondering. They said on the news tonight that the reason they gave him a burial at sea is to respect the islamic burial ritual which is that they must be buried within 24hrs after death. But...isnt the islamic burial one that has to be in a coffin, on your side facing mecca?

    Onesimus


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  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭yammycat


    they put him in the sea so his burial place wouldn't become a shrine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Scrappychimow


    they probably decapitated him and kicked his head into the ocean , don't believe everything in the news.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    He was hardly "buried" They threw his carcass off the back of a ship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    He probably ended up as chum.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one




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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    dead one wrote: »

    Actually, the official Taliban response (via Jason Burke on Twitter) is rather non-commital:

    RT @azelin: RT @felixkuehn: Taliban statement about death of Osama bin Laden translation http://bit.ly/c1J6za #Taliban #Afghanistan

    Link with translated text shows the following:
    Taliban Statement: the death of Osama bin Laden
    Just because Americans have said they have killed Sheikh Osama bin Laden but they have’t shown anything to prove it yet. We don’t want to make any comments and on the other side the closest links [people] to Osama have not given a confirmation of his death so we cannot make any comment as to whether he is dead or not.

    Original link here (in Pashto?):

    http://alemarah-iea.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10820:2011-05-03-14-20-54&catid=1:news&Itemid=51

    P.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,546 ✭✭✭Masked Man


    Onesimus wrote: »
    Hi. I was just wondering. They said on the news tonight that the reason they gave him a burial at sea is to respect the islamic burial ritual which is that they must be buried within 24hrs after death. But...isnt the islamic burial one that has to be in a coffin, on your side facing mecca?

    Onesimus

    I think they the Islamic burial ritual was that he had to be buried within 24 hours, the US claim they tried to get Saudi Arabia to repatriate the body but they refused. Islam allows for a burial at sea as long as the body won't be eaten too quickly.

    Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about Islam, this stuff is just what I learned in the last few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭irishconvert


    Masked Man wrote: »
    I think they the Islamic burial ritual was that he had to be buried within 24 hours, the US claim they tried to get Saudi Arabia to repatriate the body but they refused. Islam allows for a burial at sea as long as the body won't be eaten too quickly.

    Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about Islam, this stuff is just what I learned in the last few days.

    Burial at sea is only under very unusual circumstances. The US story is a load of bull. His body should have been handed over to the local mosque who would have buried it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 271 ✭✭Sefirah


    In fairness, thousands of people who burned to death and were disfigured beyond recognition on 9/11 didn't receive a 'proper burial', so why should the man who orchestrated their deaths have one? Ridiculous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Burial at sea is only under very unusual circumstances. The US story is a load of bull. His body should have been handed over to the local mosque who would have buried it.

    Why the US don't answer to anyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Burial at sea is only under very unusual circumstances. The US story is a load of bull. His body should have been handed over to the local mosque who would have buried it.
    What mosque would have associated itself with him? If his country of birth refused to take his body then I doubt anyone else would.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Burial at sea is only under very unusual circumstances. The US story is a load of bull. His body should have been handed over to the local mosque who would have buried it.

    They apparently tried to hand his body over the Saudi Arabia (Bin Laden was a citizen), and they refused. Apparently Pakistan also refused (he is not a citizen, so that is understandable), and I doubt any other country would want the head ache of burying his body. So I think the circumstances were unusual enough to justify what they did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Plowman


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭ultain


    Im surprised they didint mount & stuff him...or maybe they did, great after dinner talking point..keep an eye out on ebay!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Plowman wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I doubt that would have happened actually. Salafi's like Bin Laden and his followers, are very much against any kind of shrines, as evidence by multiple attacks on Sufi shrines in Pakistan. They prefer unmarked graves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Irish_Muslim


    Hi all,

    The Sheikh of the Mosque in Blanchardstown which was mentioned in the wiki leaks as one of the few voices for integration has written an article and it will be published tomorrow in the irish times. It will be the view on the death of OBL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    What mosque would have associated itself with him? If his country of birth refused to take his body then I doubt anyone else would.
    Err. Plenty. Given the reaction in Karachi over the past few days I imagine there would have been several mosques only too eager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Hi all,

    The Sheikh of the Mosque in Blanchardstown which was mentioned in the wiki leaks as one of the few voices for integration has written an article and it will be published tomorrow in the irish times. It will be the view on the death of OBL.
    Had to quit reading by paragraph 3. Trying to claim that the fitna's under Mohammed were purely defensive is, well, to put it politely, either delusional or intellectually dishonest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭yammycat


    Nevore wrote: »
    Had to quit reading by paragraph 3. Trying to claim that the fitna's under Mohammed were purely defensive is, well, to put it politely, either delusional or intellectually dishonest.

    yea i read that, major facepalm,

    The massive expansion of an empire during defensive action ...


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