LOI Fixtures 6/7 May 2011

Zebra3

Gavin shels wrote: »

How the f*ck did Salthill get a license for Drum!

"There's one for everyone in the audience"

TangyZizzle

Gavin shels wrote: »

How the f*ck did Salthill get a license for Drum!

What criteria does a ground have to meet to get a licence?

Zebra3

TangyZizzle wrote: »

What criteria does a ground have to meet to get a licence?

I'm not sure.

But Salthill's ground has:

No seats;
No terracing;
No covering for fans;
No turnstiles.

dfx-

Zebra3 wrote: »

I'm not sure.

But Salthill's ground has:

No seats;
No terracing;
No covering for fans;
No turnstiles.

Wouldn't the First Division Licence be 'easier' to get...

Zebra3

dfx- wrote: »

Wouldn't the First Division Licence be 'easier' to get...

Obviously.




But it shouldn't be that easy.

Töpher

Zebra3 wrote: »

I'm not sure.

But Salthill's ground has:

No seats;
No terracing;
No covering for fans;
No turnstiles.

Nor hot food. But at least they had one toilet.

It's funny, I didn't have a problem with it last year, under a nice summers sun. Standing in torrential rain for the guts of an hour without a hint of shelter may have clouded my judgement.

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Actually, on the solitary toilet point, given the presumed low number of fans they get there every fortnight, the licencing seems to let them away with this;

The minimum requirement for sanitary facilities are the following, based on an 80:20 ratio of male and female:
a) 1 seated toilet per 250 males
b) 1 urinal per 125 males
c) 1 seated toilet per 125 females

TangyZizzle

Töpher wrote: »

The minimum requirement for sanitary facilities are the following, based on an 80:20 ratio of male and female:
a) 1 seated toilet per 250 males
b) 1 urinal per 125 males
c) 1 seated toilet per 125 females

Link to where you got this from?

Pinturicchio

I'd say Drom fails on most of these:


INDIVIDUAL SEATS
The stadium must be equipped with Individual Seats.
Each individual seat in the stadium must be:
• Comfortable;
• fixed in position;
• separate from the others;
• numbered;
• in accordance with minimum backrest height of 30cm when measured
from the seat;
• in accordance with minimum seating dimensions as described in The
Code.
Seating installed prior to 11th December 2003 without backrests or with
backrests less than 30cm will fulfil the criterion.



TURNSTILES AND ENTRY POINTS
The stadium must be serviced by an adequate number of Turnstiles to
provide a safe, secure and, if necessary, segregated environment.
The relevant price of admission for each category of spectator must be
displayed at the entrance to each Turnstile and/or at ticket office
booths.
Turnstiles must admit all spectators (except players and officials).
Turnstiles and all other entry points to the stadium must be metered at
a rate of 600 people per hour. Turnstiles and entry points must be
designed in such


REFRESHMENT FACILITIES
The stadium should be equipped with Refreshment Facilities for
spectators and a sufficient number of permanent drinking water fonts.
The Refreshment Facilities must consist of an outlet for hot and cold
food, and for hot and cold beverages on both sides of the ground,
including segregated areas (see INF 1.08).
Each outlet must serve food of a good standard at a reasonable price.
Each outlet must be attended by trained staff, be clean, easily
accessible, comply with Food Hygiene Regulations and hold a Licence
issued by the relevant Health Board.


CRUSH AVOIDANCE AT ENTRANCES
Preventive measures must be taken to avoid crushing at turnstiles and
any other public entrances.
This may be accomplished by having a system of barriers designed to
funnel spectators individually towards the entry points or by having in
place a suitable written management plan.
All public entrances must be used only for the purpose of entry and
must not be used simultaneously for exit.
Once through a turnstile or other entry gate, clear and unmistakable
signs must point spectators to their sector, row and seat.
Public Amenities, such as toilet facilities, refreshment facilities, etc,
inside and outside the stadium must not be situated so as to obstruct
turnstiles, entrance or exit routes.


SPECTATORS WITH DISABILITIES
The stadium must be equipped to accommodate spectators with
disabilities and accompanying persons safely and comfortably.
Disabled Spectators and accompanying persons must have:
• safe, covered, unobstructed, integrated viewing facilities;
• own separate entrance gate (if necessary);
• direct access to their viewing area;
• ramps for wheelchairs; and
• toilet facilities (see INF 1.25).
A minimum of 5 places per 1,000 individual seats must be provided for
spectators with impaired mobility, up to a maximum of 15 places (plus
spaces for accompanying person) in stadia with a Safe Holding
Capacity in excess of 3,000.


BOUNDARY WALL / FENCE
The stadium must be completely and adequately enclosed by an
outside Boundary Wall and/or Fencing of solid construction.


LOOSE SURFACES
The stadium must not contain any terraces, passageways, stairways or
precincts with surfaces containing shale, stones, gravel, grass or other
loose material.
All public passageways and stairways in the spectator areas must have
slip-resistant surfaces and be of sufficient width for the seating and/or
standing accommodation served.
All surfaces should be of concrete or tarmacadam, and be in good
condition.

SIGNPOSTING
The licence applicant must ensure there is adequate Signposting inside
and outside the stadium.
Clear, comprehensive signposting must be provided, pointing out
approaches to the stadium, routes to various parts of the stadium and
the location of all stadium exit and entrance gates. Signs must be
presented with internationally understandable pictographic language.
Large-scale wall maps must be provided for the guidance of spectators.


SEATING CAPACITY
First Division and ‘A’ Championship
The stadium must be equipped with a minimum number of 500
individual covered seats
Or
There must be provision in the CIDP to meet this criterion within a
timeframe agreed with the FAI Club Licensing Department.
Documentary evidence such as an approved submission for planning
permission may be requested by the FAI Club Licensing Department.


TV Facilities
The stadium must be equipped with TV Facilities.
The TV Facilities must be safe, comfortable and allow for the live
coverage of matches.
Commentary Position
The TV Facilities must consist of a minimum of 1 permanent TV
commentary position. This must be centrally located and on the same
side as the main TV camera platform.
The commentary positions must be weather-proofed, with removable
windows, open during commentary and with a commanding view of the
entire pitch.
Each commentary position must be equipped with the following:
• a lit desk, large enough to accommodate a TV monitor and other
essential broadcast equipment, and a laptop, (2m x 70cm desk top);
• individual seats;
• an individual power supply;
• an exclusive phone connection;
• an ISDN line connection.

Camera Platform
The stadium should be equipped with at least 1 TV camera platform.
This must be exactly in line with the half-way line and be at a height
which forms an angle with the horizontal plane of 15-30° to the centre
spot and is recommended to be at least 6m2.
A cable duct should be provided to link the OB Van Area to the
stadium’s TV Facilities.
Additional space should be made available to permit the installation of
cameras:
• in line with the outer edge of both penalty areas, either at the level of
the Field of Play or an elevated position 3m – 5m above the level of
the Field of Play;
• behind each goal (for replay cameras).

Outside Broadcast Van Area
The stadium should be equipped with a designated Outside Broadcast
(OB) Van Area.
The OB Van Area should offer ample parking space for OB Vans, be
secure and be provided with a power supply with back-up.
An area should also be reserved for Satellite Uplink Vehicles. This
should be in the open air, adjacent to the OB Van Area, with an
unobstructed view of the southern horizon, and be supplied with an
electrical power supply from the same source as the OB Van Area.

PUBLIC TRANSPORT
The licence applicant should arrange for Public Transport to the
stadium.
Public Transport should be arranged to connect the town centre, main
railway station, main bus terminal and airport to the stadium.

TRAFFIC SIGNPOSTING
The stadium access roads should have adequate traffic signposting.
All main access roads should be clearly signed with directions leading
spectators to and from the stadium. The traffic signage should be
checked from time to time with the Local Authorities.

CLOSED CIRCUIT TELEVISION SYSTEM
The stadium should be equipped with a Closed Circuit Television
System.
The Closed Circuit Television System should allow for surveillance of
public areas inside and immediately outside the stadium.
The Closed Circuit Television cameras should be colour, be mounted in
fixed positions, have pan-and-tilt capabilities and be recording footage
during each match as agreed between the Event Controller and the
Gardai. The Closed Circuit Television System should be operated and
controlled from the stadium’s Central Control Room (see INF 1.04),
where monitor screens should be situated.

frantic190

All they have to say is that they have plans to do all that and they get a licence, thats how Drogheda got away with it for so long.

Pinturicchio

frantic190 wrote: »

All they have to say is that they have plans to do all that and they get a licence, thats how Drogheda got away with it for so long.

It also helps that the FAI own United Park.

Töpher

TangyZizzle wrote: »

Link to where you got this from?

Sorry, should have included it initially.

All various aspects of licencing listed in documents on here.
Quick link for the Infrastructure Criteria.

frantic190

Pinturicchio wrote: »

It also helps that the FAI own United Park.

Didn't even know that. Cheers!

Zebra3

The delights of Drom.

http://vimeo.com/channels/shelstv

TheBigLebowski

Zebra3 wrote: »

The delights of Drom.

http://vimeo.com/channels/shelstv

:eek: Is that a ground from the 2nd tier of Irish football?!?


I'm as disappointed in Pats last night as I am in rovers. Pats wasting time from the 1st minute of the game at home? At least rovers tried to get on and play some ball if mostly unsuccessful in their attempts. No wonder there was about 15 pats fans at it...

Anywho onwards and upwards.

Pinturicchio

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

:eek: Is that a ground from the 2nd tier of Irish football?!?

So is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbecJ2wxHqU

Gavin "shels"

Pinturicchio wrote: »

So is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbecJ2wxHqU

At least Mervue have turnstiles and don't play in the backarse of nowhere. Our mini-bus struggled getting to Salthills ground down the narrow roads, I can only imagine how the official supporters' bus and players bus managed it.

Tallaght Saint

Pinturicchio wrote: »

So is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbecJ2wxHqU

Whats the bleedin' story with Kildare's kit there? *horrible 80's flashback*