Three's €38m contract with BT will provide 100MB broadband speeds

Dazza · 05-05-2011 9:05pm #1

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/21659-three-strikes-deal-with-bt/

Three might be doing something right

Spear · 05-05-2011 9:28pm

Darragh12 wrote: »

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/21659-three-strikes-deal-with-bt/

Three might be doing something right

Sounds more like fibre backhaul for the base stations, users will never see 100megs a person.

jimmyjim11 · 05-05-2011 9:54pm

here hoping :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

speeds have gone bad lately :rolleyes: the joys of mobile BB

bealtine · 05-05-2011 10:14pm

Spear wrote: »

Sounds more like fibre backhaul for the base stations, users will never see 100megs a person.

That's exactly what it is a fibre backhaul upgrade. LTE-ready or not it has little or no bearing on speeds that users will see.

AlmightyCushion · 05-05-2011 10:19pm

That's some terrible reporting from the silicon republic.

Nollog · 05-05-2011 10:32pm

Spear wrote: »

Sounds more like fibre backhaul for the base stations, users will never see 100megs a person.

4G allows for 100mbit.

noclee · 05-05-2011 10:37pm

This is H3G mobile backhaul over BT NGN and will probably also be used for business user base and other mobile operators.... There residential as been sold to Vodafone..

bealtine · 05-05-2011 10:43pm

/\/ollog wrote: »

4G allows for 100mbit.

Only in your dreams

bk · 05-05-2011 10:58pm

/\/ollog wrote: »

4G allows for 100mbit.

In the lab, not in reality.

In reality LTE won't offer speeds much faster then 3G.

The real benefit of LTE is reduced latency. The latency of 3g is about the same as dialup, >100ms, LTE will be capable of more wired BB type latencies, about 40ms.

Nollog · 06-05-2011 12:41am

In 2008, the ITU-R organization specified the IMT-Advanced requirements for 4G standards, setting peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100 Mbit/s for high mobility communication (moving fast) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (sitting in your home).

LTE isn't 4G, it's like what EDGE is to 3G.

lucernarian · 06-05-2011 4:44pm

Indeed nollog is right in stating the prescribed speeds under LTE. I don't think it's fair yet to claim it's only a dream fit for a lab. But this is all contingent on LTE devices being allowed a considerable level of spectrum to operate. Knowing the dimwits in ComReg's spectrum planning unit, they will offer enough spectrum only to allow a dressed-up HSDPA type of performance where there is better latency and only those people living quite near a base station during a quiet time of the day will get speeds over 10 Mbps.

Maybe we'll see LTE delivering speeds in that ballpark in some better-managed country:rolleyes:

jasper1 · 06-05-2011 7:46pm

My understanding is that a rough guide for wireless solutions is about 5 bits per Hertz, So a 20MHz spectrum would support 100Mbits/sec at the air interface per sector. This capacity would be shared by everyone who wanted to use their wireless device in that sector.

A rough guide for European cable platforms is about 7 bits per Hertz. A 8MHz cable TV channel can support 56Mbits/sec. EuroDOCSIS 3.0 can bond 4 or more of these channels to offer a shared capcity of 200Mbits/sec.

lucernarian · 06-05-2011 8:11pm

20MHz for downlink and uplink each would result in generally reasonable internet access at somewhat light usage, perhaps no more than 10GB per month and with the optimistic hope that usage would be spread out beyond the typical 4 to 12pm times. No bittorrent and Rapidshare and filesharing in general, in other words. It won't ever match the service potential of cable and to a lesser degree DSL but it can offer a big improvement on the deplorable performance of 3G using only 5MHz slots.

The big problem is that ComReg may well end up only selling off 5MHz pairs to several operators rather than giving bigger chunks to fewer providers, which will only allow for small improvements over existing UMTS.

bealtine · 06-05-2011 10:41pm

To_be_confirmed wrote: »

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The big problem is that ComReg may well end up only selling off 5MHz pairs to several operators rather than giving bigger chunks to fewer providers, which will only allow for small improvements over existing .

This is exactly the problem 5Mhz pairs are not enough to offer broadband.
In reality there should only be one or maybe two infrastructure providers and all the mobile operators infrastructure share, that would offer significant benefits over the current situation or the probable situation.

LaVail · 07-05-2011 6:29pm

"As Ireland's largest high-speed mobile network, Three has invested more than €800m in infrastructure in Ireland to deliver much-needed voice, text and broadband services,” said Robert Finnegan, CEO of Three"

€800m worth of kit right here >>>>