Gerry and Kate Mcann promoting Book on Late Late next week

AudreyHepburn

Degsy wrote: »

Well if they didnt kill her,where's the child?

Abducted?

Pah!

So if and when a child disappears the sole and only explanation must be that the parents killed her/him?

Christ almighty!

EverEvolving

mconigol wrote: »

One of my bosses reminds me exactly of Gerry. Really nice guy but comes across as a bit cold and hard to get to know which is actually not true. He's from Glasgow too so I might put his personality down to that. Also another Glaswegian I worked with is a bit like that too. Wouldn't read much into it personally.

That is quite true, and some people probably need to block out the hurt to be able to get on with life, which is understandable.

I don't have an opinion either way really, but I do find the power of the media and the suggestibility of theories to sway opinion quite fascinating.

CK2010

thebullkf wrote: »

i don't think theres anybody on this thread whos gone socialising and left 3 infants unattended at home.... do you?

+1

im not a perfect parent, i shout, ive stood on her toe by mistake, i burn her food, but at then end of the day ive never left her alone while i go out drinking and shock horror shes never vanished into thin air!
so the secret is- dont leave your child alone.

endabob1

Why won't someone think of the book I mean Children

Stella89

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Can you prove they killed her? Because I genuinely haven't seen any evidence to convince me they did, and I am open-minded about every possibility.

I don't think you are very open minded , all you seem to do is thank posts that are in anyway similar to your position .

RobFowl

I just found the whole interview incredibly sad. Their lives are ruined and any joy they get with there kids will be forever tinged with regret and guilt about not being there to protect her.
I simply don't buy the crap about the parents being the killers.

thebullkf

DCUlad wrote: »

What have Madeline McCann and the Titanic got it common ???






They were both filled with Sea Men and sent to the bottom of the Atlantic.

are you in college as your moniker suggests???


if only you were on the bottom of the atlantic.

Micky Dolenz

DCUlad wrote: »

What have Madeline McCann and the Titanic got it common ???



They were both filled with Sea Men and sent to the bottom of the Atlantic.

You think joking about a kid that probably came to an untimely end is funny.

Don't post in this thread again.

Forever Hopeful

thebullkf wrote: »

i don't think theres anybody on this thread whos gone socialising and left 3 infants unattended at home.... do you?

Oh get over yourself.... I am sick of the Kate and Gerry bashing. They made a mistake, they have to live with that every single day. They are clearly devastated. Anyone on this thread who has had a child abducted, then raise their hand. No! they haven't. I always remember my parents telling me about when I went missing as a four year old, this sh*t happens, I was lucky. J*sus lads, no one person here knows what the McCanns are going through and stop with the sick twisted judgemental attitudes.

adamski8

Stella89 wrote: »

I don't think you are very open minded , all you seem to do is thank posts that are in anyway similar to your position .

isnt this a main purpose of the thanks button!

mconigol

maebee wrote: »

They know she's dead. As do the Portuguese & British police:

http://www.mccannfiles.com/

:rolleyes:

That's all that post deserves.

thebullkf wrote: »

true,but an old expression springs to mind.

"A man whos fond of smiling is never any good.."

lol...Alan Carr springs to mind!

Zillah

suitseir wrote: »

Why would they do that???

Could be an accident.

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Can you prove they killed her? Because I genuinely haven't seen any evidence to convince me they did, and I am open-minded about every possibility.

Of course I can't prove it, but their story is an incoherent mess that kept changing over time. Not to mention that a police-trained corpse detecting dog that had made no false positives in hundreds of previous cases detected the scent of a corpse in several locations in the apartment and the McCann's rented car.

One such place was one of Madeline's soft toys, which her mother washed the day the dogs were coming for no apparent reason.

thebullkf

RobFowl wrote: »

I just found the whole interview incredibly sad. Their lives are ruined and any joy they get with there kids will be forever tinged with regret and guilt about not being there to protect her.
I simply don't buy the crap about the parents being the killers.

based solely on tonight, i'd normally agree.

BUT.....


having read alleged actual case files....they tell a different story/stories....

Have you read any statements?

mindboggling:(

AudreyHepburn

adamski8 wrote: »

isnt this a main purpose of the thanks button!

Thank you:)

I have always said if I am proved wrong I'll be the first to admit it. But so far I haven't seen anything to convince of any other scenario than abduction.

AskMyChocolate

mconigol wrote: »

What exactly do you believe they should have said?

He should have said "Buy the book". It would have seemed more sincere.

thebullkf

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

You think joking about a kid that probably came to an untimely end is funny.

Don't post in this thread again.

thank christ, ( coulda been banned meself, cept for my ninja edit:o)

Crann na Beatha

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NomdePlume

So is this where the 'section of society with suspicions' about the McCanns hangs out?
Personally I felt a bit ashamed when Tubridy felt compelled to ask them for a response to your armchair investigations. What a lot of ghoulish, idle speculation. Never been on the scene yourselves and you've got it all worked out. Not a criminal psychology qualification between ye and you've got a file on Gerry's mannerisms.
Leave the investigating to the professionals and find some Poirot DVDs to inspire this sort of amateur detective debate.

Wolflikeme

Stella89 wrote: »

I don't think you are very open minded , all you seem to do is thank posts that are in anyway similar to your position .

This.

I've read the thread over the last few days.

Open minded? Your blinkered at best, at worst, totally ignorant.

You've continuously ignored arguments. Have you actually gone and read any of the links presented in this thread? If you have I don't see how you could still have no doubt they'd nothing to do with it.

No evidence to suggest they've nothing to do with it? Well there's zero evidence of an abduction and a ton of circumstantial evidence against the McCann's.

Seriously, I find it hard to comprehend that anyone that has gone and read the McCann files etc still has NO DOUBT they'd anything to do with it then I'm lost for words!!

thebullkf

Forever Hopeful wrote: »

Oh get over yourself.... I am sick of the Kate and Gerry bashing. They made a mistake, they have to live with that every single day. They are clearly devastated. Anyone on this thread who has had a child abducted, then raise their hand. No! they haven't. I always remember my parents telling me about when I went missing as a four year old, this sh*t happens, I was lucky. J*sus lads, no one person here knows what the McCanns are going through and stop with the sick twisted judgemental attitudes.

get over myself?

have you read the case files?

do you know me?

nice of you to ask , and answer your own question . i suggest you apply your first line to yourself, and try and educate yourself to available (alleged) police fil data.

Anybody who reads it,and has your attitude.....

lugha

I dispair at the thought that I might one day be up in front of the old beak and have as a jury of my, er “peers” some of the folk contributing here! The absolute “truths” that some can derive from virtually nothing.

The maxim of innocent till proven guilty is widely accepted but when it comes to the suspicion that a parent might have killed their child surely anyone with a modicum of decency would demand serious, compelling evidence before the line up against them.

maebee

suitseir wrote: »

Why would they do that???

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic50.html

bad2dabone

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Well at the very least there is a lot perfect parents who have never made a mistake on here.

I'd love to know their secrets.

I'm sick of this type of comment to be honest, and i don't mean it personally Audrey, but come on, leaving 3 small kids on their own in an unlocked room where you can't see them is not a mistake, its neglect.

It's far more serious than a mere "mistake".

Excusing their utter failure towards their daughter by calling it a mistake is wrong in my opinion. Again I don't mean it personally towards you but I wish people would stop trying to excuse what they did.

I don't think they killed her, i'd be horrified if it turns out that she was killed by them. I don't like Gerry, or indeed Kate. But I don't take them for murderers or monsters. Having said that there's something nigglingly wrong about the case.

Wolflikeme

adamski8 wrote: »

isnt this a main purpose of the thanks button!

I don't think so.

Thanking a post because the poster has put forward a good, constructive argument = thank post.

Simply because they share the same views - No. I'd be all day clicking 'thanks' on some threads.

My name is URL

The McCann's role aside.. the media should have a bit of cop-on and stop exploiting their tragedy to sell papers. There's a lot deceit in this whole thing, and it's not all from the parents. I wonder if Kate was talked into writing the book..? The couple are extremely vulnerable regardless of their own culpability.. and there are plenty of vultures out there.

rok

Dunno if this ads anything to this thread/discussion but I was on holiday with my Mrs and another couple in the next town, Lagos, around the same time, think we arrived the day before Madeline went missing.
Anyway we all thought the initial search and police effort was weak, from what we saw.
There was a Sky box in our apartment so we saw the story on Sky news. It seemed like Police efforts were only stepped up after it became an international news story.
We had a rented car and went to different beaches everyday but it was about 2 days after the story broke that we 1st saw a roadblock and saw Police stopping and searching cars. At that stage it seemed more like a PR job to protect Algarves tourist industry than anything.
We drove to the small town Prair da Luz a couple of days later, out of curiosity. Think we were able to drive quiet close to their resort. It looked like a lovely quiet clean safe spot, bit too small and quiet for me but prob perfect for a young family holiday. We went for brekkie and overheard some older English folk in bits crying, think they may have been relatives that flew over.
My feeling is that McCanns are not involved in Madeline's disappearance, just hope that whoever took her is not a completely perverted sicko.

Felt guilty enjoyin a holiday while they were goin through hell, we looked out for notices asking for help to search but didn't seem much was going on.

DerekWaters

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Thank you:)

I have always said if I am proved wrong I'll be the first to admit it. But so far I haven't seen anything to convince of any other scenario than abduction.

Haha absolute classic!!! What have you seen that has convinced you there was an abduction???

British and Portugese police found no evidence to support that theory.......

They did find evidence however that pointed towards a dead body in the apartment.........

AskMyChocolate

mconigol wrote: »

They want people to read the book to hear their story. Of course they are going to say read the book.

What good would saying something supposedly "heartfelt and genuine" do? Apart from give a few people a nice warm fuzzy feeling inside and give a few others some other way to find fault. I guarantee no matter what they said there would be people out there to find issue with it.



I agree Tubridy did cut them off near the end there when it seemed like they were willing to continue discussing all the acquisitions thrown at them. Probably trying to show a bit of decency and humanity although it is a pity.

Freudian slip there mconigal ?

mconigol

Wolflikeme wrote: »

This.

I've read the thread over the last few days.

Open minded? Your blinkered at best, at worst, totally ignorant.

You've continuously ignored arguments. Have you actually gone and read any of the links presented in this thread? If you have I don't see how you could still have no doubt they'd nothing to do with it.

No evidence to suggest they've nothing to do with it? Well there's zero evidence of an abduction and a ton of circumstantial evidence against the McCann's.

Seriously, I find it hard to comprehend that anyone that has gone and read the McCann files etc still has NO DOUBT they'd anything to do with it then I'm lost for words!!

Apart from the missing child.

Where's the circumstantial evidence? I think you mean speculation and opinion. Nothing more.

Sound Bite

Whether they are guilty of being involved or just guilty of negligance, their lack of remorse and continual blaming of others is shocking.

Never once have they said we f***** up here, we wish we could turn the clock back, we wish things had been different, in hindsight we were naive, etc...

Absolutely no sense of remorse, regret, guilt......