Gerry and Kate Mcann promoting Book on Late Late next week

Kevin Duffy

mrsbyrne wrote: »

if you think its "feasible" then you must have some idea of how (the complex was obviously in uproar as soon as kate mccann alerted the general company to the disappearance i dont see how the little body can have been removed, please give me your theory). also, once again, why would they murder their child? saying that its feasible implies you have a theory!

Your ideas here are based entirely on assuming that if the child was killed (which I'm not suggesting happened), she was killed at the time it's alleged she disappeared, as opposed to beforehand and the disappearance later staged. You also assume that the hypothesised killing by any person was a murder, rather than an accident.

You also don't understand the word "feasible" - it just means possible and doesn't imply the writer must now how. You also have a conclusion in your head with absolutely no knowledge of the facts.

maebee

mrsbyrne wrote: »

if you think its "feasible" then you must have some idea of how (the complex was obviously in uproar as soon as kate mccann alerted the general company to the disappearance i dont see how the little body can have been removed, please give me your theory). also, once again, why would they murder their child? saying that its feasible implies you have a theory!

Please read the Gaspars' statements.

mrsbyrne

Silver Moon wrote: »

If the McCanns and their friends volunteered to take part in a reconstruction of event - as they previously refused to do - then that would consitute new evidence. Thus, they have the power to get the investigation re-opened.

"The McCanns, who believe Portuguese police botched the investigation, said: "This is a step in the right direction." Now, what on earth does that mean?? Is it a 'Big' step a 'Little' step or just a 'Medium' sized step?? Would they care to tell me how many other 'Steps' are required, needed or wanted for them to become just a little bit more enthusiastic than the obviously are at the moment... Has anyone read the words 'Overjoyed', 'Ecstatic', 'Delighted' etc when describing their feelings on hearing this news??

I do not believe the McCanns murdered their child. Nor do I believe Madeleine was abducted.

I believe the body was probably disposed long before the media was on the scene.

I believe they 'stay in the spotlight' because they are trying to protect themselves - and more recently they have to stay in the spotlight in order to pay for the legal bills they face having lost their court case in Lisbon re: Goncalo Amaral's book.

I do not 'hate' the McCanns. I pity them. They lost a daughter, ruined their own lives and dragged down lots of other people with them. I doubt they will ever be free of the guilt they must carry for their of their lives.

silvermoon, you are a member of missingmadeleine forumotion whose mods included a convicted paedophile and whose posters entertained and cheered and clapped a totally remorseless convicted axe-murderer. posters also enabled pornographic photoshopped pictures depicting gerry mccann in an sexual pose with his missing child cuddlecat toy amongst other pieces of "art". a member of the forum had saved these pictures from a now defunct mccann/madeleine hate site "the 3As" and was grated permission by the owner of missingmadeleine to post them there. the members of missingmadeleine spam the news websites on every article regarding the mccanns in order to prevent any positive sympathetic views being aired. you are hear now, just registered, to do the same. do your best now to report me and have me banned. those are your instructions, aren't they?

maebee

MrsByrne. Have you read the official police files?

iamwhoiam

mrsbyrne wrote: »

so the abductor is not to blame at all geetar. he/she was just going about his normal paedo business and its not his fault that the little girl was asleep in her bed? he cant be blamed or held to account for his actions? ?

Who is this abductor of whom you speak ? Its a fictional character as so far not a slither of evidence has ever been found to lead us to that abductor

mrsbyrne

geetar wrote: »

yes, i did answer your questions. you asked why would they raise attention to themselves had they murdered their daughter. i said it was to renew public interest in the case, so they would sell more books.

they are quite clearly cold, calclulating individuals, hellbent on making a profit from their dead daughter. (whether guilty of murder or not)



quite clearly i would not donate to the madeleine mccann foundation if i thought she was muredered by her parents. :rolleyes:

quite clearly you would donate to the madeleine foundation if you thought she was murdered by her parents as it is devoted to having her parents prosecuted in relation to her disappearance.:rolleyes:

mrsbyrne

maebee wrote: »

MrsByrne. Have you read the official police files?

yes, i have. and not the revised "themccannsare" guilty edition as discussed on missingmadeleine that you have read.

Kevin Duffy

mrsbyrne wrote: »

silvermoon, you are a member of missingmadeleine forumotion whose mods included a convicted paedophile and whose posters entertained and cheered and clapped a totally remorseless convicted axe-murderer. posters also enabled pornographic photoshopped pictures depicting gerry mccann in an sexual pose with his missing child cuddlecat toy amongst other pieces of "art". a member of the forum had saved these pictures from a now defunct mccann/madeleine hate site "the 3As" and was grated permission by the owner of missingmadeleine to post them there. the members of missingmadeleine spam the news websites on every article regarding the mccanns in order to prevent any positive sympathetic views being aired. you are hear now, just registered, to do the same. do your best now to report me and have me banned. those are your instructions, aren't they?

mrsbyrne wrote: »

quite clearly you would donate to the madeleine foundation if you thought she was murdered by her parents as it is devoted to having her parents prosecuted in relation to her disappearance.:rolleyes:

You posted these after you said you wouldn't post if your questions were answered. They have been answered. Are you going to stick to your word and stop posting?

Silver Moon

mrsbyrne wrote: »

silvermoon, you are a member of missingmadeleine forumotion whose mods included a convicted paedophile and whose posters entertained and cheered and clapped a totally remorseless convicted axe-murderer. posters also enabled pornographic photoshopped pictures depicting gerry mccann in an sexual pose with his missing child cuddlecat toy amongst other pieces of "art". a member of the forum had saved these pictures from a now defunct mccann/madeleine hate site "the 3As" and was grated permission by the owner of missingmadeleine to post them there. the members of missingmadeleine spam the news websites on every article regarding the mccanns in order to prevent any positive sympathetic views being aired. you are hear now, just registered, to do the same. do your best now to report me and have me banned. those are your instructions, aren't they?

Mrs Bryne. I can assure that I am under no instructions from anyone about anything - least of all to 'report you'. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.

I am a member of several forums and discuss a whole manner of subjects. I was thrilled with Jedward's performance last night at Eurovision - they made me feel proud to be Irish. Sadly the McCanns make me weep for the Irish blood that flows through their veins.

mrsbyrne

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

You posted these after you said you wouldn't post if your questions were answered. They have been answered. Are you going to stick to your word and stop posting?

PLEASE!! my questions have not been answered!!! I want to know in detail, how and why! waiting!!!!

maebee

mrsbyrne, you need to have an open mind. Please read the files, pay attention to the Gaspars' statements and have a look at this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBe_1NrWbr8&feature=player_detailpage

Kevin Duffy

mrsbyrne wrote: »

PLEASE!! my questions have not been answered!!! I want to know in detail, how and why! waiting!!!!

I see, so your committment to stop posting was rash nonsense and you're not going to stick to your word. Ok, thanks.

iamwhoiam

mrsbyrne wrote: »

PLEASE!! my questions have not been answered!!! I want to know in detail, how and why! waiting!!!!

I hope you are not holding your breath will you wait , because if any of us knew how would we be sitting here indulging you with answers ?

Spanish Eyes

It looks like this will never be solved. Still it is interesting to hear the theories. Since there is no evidence of ANYTHING except a missing child, theories will abound, and pro and anti McCann factions will emerge.

For me, the child wandered out of the apartment and disappeared. Doors open etc. a three yr old can be adventurous, or terrified. Maybe she was snatched, but I don't think it happened in the apartment.

Anyway, to lighten the mood of what is a quite distressing thread, I think the tags at bottom of the page are quite hilarious... have a look!!

Audioslaven

I was telling my four year old daughter on Saturday morning about the little girl that was taken and that her mum and dad went out while she was in bed. She asked who was the man that took the girl and I said we don't know because nobody seen him. She then asked why did they not bring the little girl with them. I said that is the question!! ...enough said

K-9

mrsbyrne wrote: »

are these supposed to be answers to my questions??
incidentally, the McCanns have been asking for a review of the case pretty much since the Portuguese authorities "shelved" it.why do you think that the parents of a missing child asking for an independent review of the handling of the disappearance, close to the 4 year anniversary of the disappearance means that the parents murdered their child???
Incidentally the madeleine foundation is an extremely creepy organisation
http://www.madeleinefoundation.org.uk/
run by a disgraced, struck off solicitor, Anthony Bennett. Mr Bennett likes to attach himself to sensational cases in an effort to gain notoriety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Bennett_(English_politician)
yes it is a money making machine. for Anthony Bennett, that is. People like you will buy his nonsense leaflets, and donate to his cause.

They aren't happy with what the Portuguese investigation suggests, it's as simple as that. A full investigation by Scotland Yard, not the local police, would mean going over everything, all the evidence.

Spanish Eyes

K-9 wrote: »

They aren't happy with what the Portuguese investigation suggests, it's as simple as that. A full investigation by Scotland Yard, not the local police, would mean going over everything, all the evidence.

Do you know if they wanted SY to review the case? Just curious, as the Leicestershire Constabulary were involved at the time.

Maybe SY will have more jurisdiction in a review, but am not sure they can question the Portuguese handling of it. It will be interesting to see if the Portuguese police co-operate, although I'd say they will have no problem there.

mrsbyrne

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

It looks like this will never be solved. Still it is interesting to hear the theories. Since there is no evidence of ANYTHING except a missing child, theories will abound, and pro and anti McCann factions will emerge.

For me, the child wandered out of the apartment and disappeared. Doors open etc. a three yr old can be adventurous, or terrified. Maybe she was snatched, but I don't think it happened in the apartment.

Anyway, to lighten the mood of what is a quite distressing thread, I think the tags at bottom of the page are quite hilarious... have a look!!

i haven't altogether ruled out the ""woke and wandered" theory myself, spanisheyes. its never discussed on boards because it doesnt totally support the "evil McCanns" theory.

mrsbyrne

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

I see, so your committment to stop posting was rash nonsense and you're not going to stick to your word. Ok, thanks.

kevinduffy pleas provide a link to the answers to my questions. in the meantime, as you dont appear to be a mod, kindly desist from telling me to stop posting. (sitting waiting patiently for link :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)

Silver Moon

your questions have been answered - although it seems the answers are not to your satisfaction.

Spanish Eyes

mrsbyrne wrote: »

i haven't altogether ruled out the ""woke and wandered" theory myself, spanisheyes. its never discussed on boards because it doesnt totally support the "evil McCanns" theory.

Well, in a way... if she could get out of the apartment by herself in the middle of the night because her parents left the place unlocked and left the kids all alone.... they have a case to answer.

Maybe not murder or accidental overdose or whatever other theories are out there, but certainly lack of parental responsibility. I would even go so far as to call it criminal negligence. Leaving those kids alone for such a long time (no evidence that anyone actually checked, they may have been high as kites on the local wine), was dangerous, and not something that anyone I know would do.

So the child may very well have woken up and left the place.

It doesn't absolve the parents of blame at all, even if they didn't actually harm her themselves.

mrsbyrne

Silver Moon wrote: »

your questions have been answered - although it seems the answers are not to your satisfaction.

still no link. should be easy enough, cant understand why one of you cant provide the link.

GT_TDI_150

my personal gut feeling has always been that something just isnt quite right with the mccanns.

My theory, ... something happened to maddie earlier that day, parents paniced(worried about loosing the twins? who knows?), maddie was disposed of, McCanns fabricated the inconsistent abduction story to cover their butts.

now, they are trying hard not to look guilty

just my opinion

Kevin Duffy

mrsbyrne wrote: »

kevinduffy pleas provide a link to the answers to my questions. in the meantime, as you dont appear to be a mod, kindly desist from telling me to stop posting. (sitting waiting patiently for link :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)

The answers were in my post (and someone else's), not at any link. I'm not telling you to stop posting, I asked if you were going to stick to your word. You haven't. That combined with your closed mind and spurious postings removes your credibility, but carry on, you're entertaining at least.

Benzino

mrsbyrne wrote: »

i haven't altogether ruled out the ""woke and wandered" theory myself, spanisheyes. its never discussed on boards because it doesnt totally support the "evil McCanns" theory.

Actually I believe that was discussed way back in this thread. Kate McCann said the other night that it was impossible for that to happen, saying it was an insult to her intelligence to suggest that happened.

mrsbyrne

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Well, in a way... if she could get out of the apartment by herself in the middle of the night because her parents left the place unlocked and left the kids all alone.... they have a case to answer.

Maybe not murder or accidental overdose or whatever other theories are out there, but certainly lack of parental responsibility. I would even go so far as to call it criminal negligence. Leaving those kids alone for such a long time (no evidence that anyone actually checked, they may have been high as kites on the local wine), was dangerous, and not something that anyone I know would do.

So the child may very well have woken up and left the place.

It doesn't absolve the parents of blame at all, even if they didn't actually harm her themselves.

surely if the parents had sat down for the evening in the tapas bar, got blind drunk and never bothered checking (as they say they did), someone, some member of staff, some other guest, would have noticed this. and reported it afterward? surely when the bedlam surrounding the discovery of the empty bed commenced, someone would have noticed( "these people are clearly drunk"). dont forget in the immediacy of the search all staff were required to search, the tapas 7 were runnning around like headless chickens, all were interviewed afterwards, but not one mentioned the sobriety, or lack thereof, of the chief players. surely your not suggesting that one or both of the mccanns discovered their child dead, disposed of the body, hatched a plan to wriggle out of it and then sat drinking wine and nibbling at olives as if one had dropped and smashed a bottle of milk?

lugha

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

…. McCanns fabricated the inconsistent abduction story to cover their butts….

Why do so many people hang so much on the McCann’s version of how the abduction happened? If you assume they had nothing to do with M.’s death (a rather novel notion for many posters here!) then they simply don’t know how she was abducted, if she was. They are only marginally better placed to offer a possible account of how it played out, and certainly they would be less qualified to hypothesise than the local police. So there account does not work. So what? It is only their hypothesis.

Tito Ortiz

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

my personal gut feeling has always been that something just isnt quite right with the mccanns.

My theory, ... something happened to maddie earlier that day, parents paniced(worried about loosing the twins? who knows?), maddie was disposed of, McCanns fabricated the inconsistent abduction story to cover their butts.

now, they are trying hard not to look guilty

just my opinion

I agree but here is what I think happened,the little one would not settle and thery were in a rush out to meet friends for dinner.She had woke the night before so they came up with the idea to sedate her so she would not wake.
When they came back Kate checked her and realised she had given her a overdose.
They would have both been struck off as doctors and lost the twins not alone that a heavy prison sentence,so they decided to dump the body (acid will destroy all proof even teeth). Was not sure they played any part until the Late Late but I'm so sure they played some part in this now,the way they behaved the other night was very very strange !!

Aishae

mrsbyrne wrote: »

i haven't altogether ruled out the ""woke and wandered" theory myself, spanisheyes. its never discussed on boards because it doesnt totally support the "evil McCanns" theory.

actually that theory is one of the many that have been put forth in this thread and there are many theories. the questions you asked - while none of us can tell you what happened - people can speculate as to the how and why and that has been done onthis thread too if you want to read back.

still on the fence myself - i feel if she HAD wandered she would have been found. as would her body if an accident befell her when she wandered. unless she was snatched WHEN she wandered.
its a pluasible theory. it seems to be how nothing adds up that keeps people guessing (wiped phone records, denying credit cards, not cooperating and the circumstantial evidence and various statements <- they all keep you wondering how it all adds up if at all)

mrsbyrne

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

The answers were in my post (and someone else's), not at any link. I'm not telling you to stop posting, I asked if you were going to stick to your word. You haven't. That combined with your closed mind and spurious postings removes your credibility, but carry on, you're entertaining at least.

OK kevinduffy, just check your posts and copy and paste the ones were you answered my questions. its nearly bedtime, so while were young now....;)