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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Well done!
    Keep us appraised of how things progress.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    I hope all goes well OP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    So do I good luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Best of luck op. Let us know how you will get on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Hairyass


    Well, the buyer is still hanging in there.

    The bank did a "drive by" valuation of the house. Anyone heard of this before?????

    The bank wont release the deeds 'till they tie me down on a new contract.

    Their first offer was to turn the balance into a term loan at 5.5% variable for ten years. This was working out at about 280 euros less than my current full mortgage payment.This was working out with 20K minimum profit for the bank. I rejected this completely.

    It took them a week to come up with a new offer:
    The balance of the mortgage over the remainder of the term at 5.5% variable.
    This is working out just shy of double of the amount owed.
    From what I cam make out there is little or no debt relief for anyone with a job

    You guys will love this, they wanted to charge me forty euro release fee for the deeds.

    But I have a cunning plan..................


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    Hairyass wrote: »
    Well, the buyer is still hanging in there.

    The bank did a "drive by" valuation of the house. Anyone heard of this before?????

    The bank wont release the deeds 'till they tie me down on a new contract.

    Their first offer was to turn the balance into a term loan at 5.5% variable for ten years. This was working out at about 280 euros less than my current full mortgage payment.This was working out with 20K minimum profit for the bank. I rejected this completely.

    It took them a week to come up with a new offer:
    The balance of the mortgage over the remainder of the term at 5.5% variable.
    This is working out just shy of double of the amount owed.
    From what I cam make out there is little or no debt relief for anyone with a job

    You guys will love this, they wanted to charge me forty euro release fee for the deeds.

    But I have a cunning plan..................

    Just to put some balance on this. The offer on the term loan isnt that bad. You get to reduce your outgoings by €280 a month, you no longer have a depreciating asset.

    You are also getting a rate as good as any 10 year fixed mortgage rate, significantly cheaper than a normal loan rate. The banks as much as I dislike them for their goings on over the past 10 years cant give you a free lunch.

    grab the offer and clear over the 10 years and get the weight off your shoulders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭djmcr


    Drive by valuation are not unusual. Valuer just confirms existence of house and value based on area of same


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 Hairyass


    Well, I'm out. I handed the keys over to the auctioneer last week. Had a moment when driving away with my car and trailer full of the last of my stuff, thinking, what the hell have I just done??
    Got my final bills from the auctioneer and solicitor this morning. They took their money before the bank got any, so they are clear.
    I miss calculated how much I owe the bank slightly, I owe them close on 60k.
    I decided to go with the lower payments for the moment to get my feet under me again and will over pay the loan when I can afford to. I'm sure the bank wont like it, but I don't care.

    I would like to thank everyone for their advice and opinions.

    P.S. My solicitor on all this mess was Joan H. Devine in Strokestown, Co. Roscommon. I would recommend her to anyone in a similar situation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    nice to see you got out and the stress is now gone. nice to see a bank taking a pragmatic approach here that ultimately benefits you both.

    If this were to become a common place solution in the system the whole housing market would find its level very quickly. Its a pity either more people or more banks won't take this example and apply it to similar situations.

    thaks for keeppng us update on this thread and the best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Oh - I'm so glad you got it sorted.

    Onwards and upwards as they say. I wish you the very best of luck! Be kind to yourself now. You deserve it! :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Well done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Hairyass wrote: »
    Well, I'm out. I handed the keys over to the auctioneer last week. Had a moment when driving away with my car and trailer full of the last of my stuff, thinking, what the hell have I just done??
    Got my final bills from the auctioneer and solicitor this morning. They took their money before the bank got any, so they are clear.
    I miss calculated how much I owe the bank slightly, I owe them close on 60k.
    I decided to go with the lower payments for the moment to get my feet under me again and will over pay the loan when I can afford to. I'm sure the bank wont like it, but I don't care.

    I would like to thank everyone for their advice and opinions.

    P.S. My solicitor on all this mess was Joan H. Devine in Strokestown, Co. Roscommon. I would recommend her to anyone in a similar situation.

    Well done, glad you're out of there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,852 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    silly you Op, you should have chosen a career in welfare sponging, that's in hindsight though! no debts, no worries, no sacrifices!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056402471


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭lomb


    If you owed 60k, and had a mortgage of 100 on a 150k house, then how much did you get for it was it 40-50k, that would be a 1/3 of peak, so how come the CSO figures show a drop of around 43% outside Dublin?
    Im sure your glad your out but I dont think you got a good deal on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭OMD


    lomb wrote: »
    If you owed 60k, and had a mortgage of 100 on a 150k house, then how much did you get for it was it 40-50k, that would be a 1/3 of peak, so how come the CSO figures show a drop of around 43% outside Dublin?
    Im sure your glad your out but I dont think you got a good deal on it.
    CSO figures refer to averages. Some properties will have dropped 60+% some an awful lot less than 43%.


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