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Garda Stopped Me. My Rights?

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  • #102
    glic71rods46t0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    BostonB wrote: »
    Ye are fixated by the specific age. I picked 4 at random. How about 3 to 7 if you can't get past the age of 4. I simply said school, nothing about primary school, or playschool or being sent out on their own. It was simply to point out theres a world of a difference between a motorbike and bicycle, and a grown adult and a kid on a bicycle on a path or a road. (but not in law apparently). Can ye control your imagination at all. I was simply querying the scope of the law. Ye are inventing all this extra fluff yourselves.
    I doubt you picked it at random, you picked an age that suited your point at the time. You seem to accept that there is no difference in law for cyclists with regard to their age so now you can let this part of your argument go? Yes?


  • #103
    BostonB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    z18tlaqh93mu0f wrote: »
    I thought we got over this several posts ago - you want to debate the law in a legal forum but continuously resort to justifying ignoring the law when it doesnt suit - and with just enough "if/maybe" to wait on both sides of the fact. If you dont want a legal discussion why stay on this thread? And if you do want a legal discussion then please, as previously requested, leave the subjective opinion pieces out;)

    Laws change. With good reason. They aren't always right.


  • #104
    BostonB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,056 ✭✭✭✭BostonB


    z18tlaqh93mu0f wrote: »
    I doubt you picked it at random, you picked an age that suited your point at the time. You seem to accept that there is no difference in law for cyclists with regard to their age so now you can let this part of your argument go? Yes?

    It was simply a counter for the if its a motorbike. Which was done long ago. But here you are still on about it.


  • #105
    glic71rods46t0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    BostonB wrote: »
    It was simply a counter for the if its a motorbike. Which was done long ago. But here you are still on about it.
    so you've agreed to drop it - great!


  • #106
    glic71rods46t0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    BostonB wrote: »
    Laws change. With good reason. They aren't always right.
    They are exactly right and must be followed until the day they are changed - otherwise there would be anarchy on the roads with certain road users deciding that they know best and deciding for themselves which laws are "good" and which ones are "bad".
    You pretend not to but you are going around in a circle with the same tired arguments all day which have been well and truly shot down in this forum. You cant seem to let it go though and seem content that if you get the last word in that somehow that gets rid of all the previous debate and you win the debate:rolleyes:. Well, its been great debating with you but I have to go home now so I will leave you to enjoy getting that last word in - go on, enjoy it:cool:


  • #107
    234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭234


    BostonB wrote: »
    Blindly following the letter of the law isn't always correct either.
    Yes it is. As a matter of legal principle it always is. If you want to look at it from a moral point of view then go to a philosophical discussion forum. If you don't think a law is right then lobby to have it changed, challenge its constitutionality, etc, but obey it at all times.


  • #108
    vampire of kilmainham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭vampire of kilmainham


    i see Gardai cycling on the footpath quite a lot on those mountin bikes they have seen two of them a few days back coming out of the local chipper getting on their bikes holding the bags in one hand and just gripping the handlebars with the other hand tearing back to the station on the footpath the station is only around the corner is there a seperate law for them i dont think so...Having said that i never get stopped by Gardai when i cycle on the path even by the ones on mountin bikes...


  • #109
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    vampire of kilmainham wrote: »
    is there a seperate law for them i dont think so...
    there is.


  • #110
    jaybeeveedub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭jaybeeveedub


    yawnstretch wrote: »
    Did you see the bit about common sense? When you change the details then it no longer makes sense.

    It's easy to be stupid/dangerous and within the letter of the law too btw. Something far more common these days.

    yes but stupidity (for now...) isn't illegal, therefore the OP would have been well within his rights to be outraged at the request for name, address and DOB...

    my point is that people here aren't (really) concerned with his actions, they are concerned with his surprise at being pulled up upon breaking the law...

    that's where the discussion, as opposed to a flame war, lies....


  • #111
    Resend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Resend


    sdonn wrote: »
    A Garda may require anyone to provide their Name and Address pretty much whenever they want,
    wrong


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  • #112
    amiable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Resend wrote: »
    wrong
    Care to elaborate?
    It would be nice if you explaine why its wrong and maybe provide a source:)


  • #113
    Ronan cork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Ronan cork


    honestly i'd say he thought you were going too fast...i cycle on footpaths all the time and have never had a garda so much as bat an eyelid at me but i cycle at around walking pace and am very conscious of people walking. i couldn't imagine not cycling on footpaths to be honest as without them you would be stuck in the ridiculous one way system and i also use them to avoid dangerous junctions including pulling into the curb and waiting for the green man then cycling next to the crossing...i've had a fair few near misses when following the 'rules of the road' and getting stuck in the middle of 2 lanes of traffic...so now i avoid doing it and do my best to avoid getting in the way of motorists.
    i'm sick of motorists thinking they know everything because 20 years ago they passed a test.

    the simple answer to the original post is that you were going too fast for a footpath in his opinion and he took your details because you failed to understand this and he wanted to make a point.


  • #114
    pirelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭pirelli


    :)


    They are all cagers on this forum corkboyo. Not a biker among them. All running you down just like in real life.


  • #115
    charlemont
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Think its only fair to tell ye all what I just saw twenty minutes ago on the South City link outbound, A Garda car with absolutely no lights on, front or rear, Now it doesnt bother me what they do in their patrol car but its odd considering the recent crash on the same road.


  • #116
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    charlemont wrote: »
    Think its only fair to tell ye all what I just saw twenty minutes ago on the South City link outbound, A Garda car with absolutely no lights on, front or rear, Now it doesnt bother me what they do in their patrol car but its odd considering the recent crash on the same road.

    Cool story bro. Deserving of it's own thread really.


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