Customs stopping cars in Waterford

puppetmaster

Isnt it Green diesel now rather than red?

although the Tax on fuel , motor, and the shamefull VRT disgusts me.
Is the 4.2 billion the get from motorists a year not enough (granted that number has probably dropped by now)

Although that doesnt mean i agree with some guy tipping off to the UK and buying a motor without paying the VRT , or some lad filling his golf for 70c a litre. Cant complain about them enforcing there (our) sh!t laws when most of us abide by them anyway.

If you have a foreign Reg without proof of foreign adress or proof you entered the country recently , They WILL impound the car on ya.

And if your Irish i dont think the proof of entering the country recently counts.

calvin_zola

Ricey1 wrote: »

It is a money collecting scheme for the government. People get paid they pay half their wages in tax, they buy a car about 60% of that is VRT tax, every year they have to pay road tax, they buy petrol probably 50% of that is tax, they get caught speeding and they have to pay 70 euro in speeding tax. So in reality how much of your wages that goes on your car is actually tax?? Wake up and smell the reality, the government wants to screw you every way it can, and its because of the government that we are in the mess we are today. Why is there all these new gatsos on the road? Because the government financially ruined this country and they want us to pay for it

tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax tax get used to as they will be looking for more ways to screw you in the near future

sure if you don't like fook off to oz for yourself, your being naive if you think people working and owning cars don't relise they are getting screwed tax wise but c'est la vie

hardybuck

Ok, let me get this straight. If an Irish person coming home on holiday or down from the North for a weekend gets stopped they can have their car siezed on the spot if they can't prove that they aren't resident here any more!?

Surely its less extreme than this?

CantGetNoSleep

Hoffmans wrote: »

as regards driving your car theres a facebook group with 12k members
to deal with customs harassment



also further info here

VRT is not illegal though

robtri

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

VRT is not illegal though

exactly.... not illegal ...

Trick of the Tail

Well actually, its on very dodgy legal ground in respect of EU law.

1. Citizens are supposed to have free travel and domicile - how can they do this if they have to pay punitive taxes to bring their posession - vehicle - taxed in an EU country - with them?

2. Although it's classed by the govt here as a 'domestic tax' and therefore allowable, it is to all intents and purposes an import duty under another guise, since the products it is attached to are ALL imported into Ireland and cannot be domestically obtained without being first imported.

The EU have warned Ireland about VRT for a long time, but the government are resisting changing/abolishing it, as its a nice little earner.

See, they'll follow EU rules when it suits them...

A.

Ricey1

calvin_zola wrote: »

sure if you don't like fook off to oz for yourself, your being naive if you think people working and owning cars don't relise they are getting screwed tax wise but c'est la vie

Id love to be in Oz now, lived there before and thinking of going back but there's a lot of work in Ireland at the moment and the opportunity to make a lot of money so why leave now
Also I was trying to make a point that this is a money making scam from the government, everyone knows we pay a ridiculous amount of tax

CantGetNoSleep

alinton wrote: »

Well actually, its on very dodgy legal ground in respect of EU law.

1. Citizens are supposed to have free travel and domicile - how can they do this if they have to pay punitive taxes to bring their posession - vehicle - taxed in an EU country - with them?

2. Although it's classed by the govt here as a 'domestic tax' and therefore allowable, it is to all intents and purposes an import duty under another guise, since the products it is attached to are ALL imported into Ireland and cannot be domestically obtained without being first imported.

The EU have warned Ireland about VRT for a long time, but the government are resisting changing/abolishing it, as its a nice little earner.

See, they'll follow EU rules when it suits them...

A.

Citizens are allowed bring their vehicle if they are relocating without paying VRT

The ECJ have held that this type of VRT complies with EU law in a Danish case

deisedevil

Ricey1 wrote: »

Id love to be in Oz now, lived there before and thinking of going back but there's a lot of work in Ireland at the moment and the opportunity to make a lot of money so why leave now
Also I was trying to make a point that this is a money making scam from the government, everyone knows we pay a ridiculous amount of tax

Should there be checks on VRT and illegal diesel?