Learner legal?

carsQhere

This is the lowdown on 25Kw

http://www.magireland.org/information-sheets/25kw-license-facts/

celica1994

never much of a beamer lover

just wondering, is a 1980's honda goldwing 1000cc learner legal, surely the power to weight ratio must work out legal

AgileMyth

celica1994 wrote: »

never much of a beamer lover

just wondering, is a 1980's honda goldwing 1000cc learner legal, surely the power to weight ratio must work out legal

I've got it at 0.203 kw/kg.

So you're wrong on both your points there.:D

celica1994

that a yes or a no lol?

Wossack

hah, the old power to weight rule


If you can pick and choose which of the two conditions to comply to (which I dont believe is the case), why dont they make custom power restrictors. For example, the goldwing below, reducing the power by 10hp or so may bring within the p-t-w rule. Or sticking some cinder blocks in the panniers.


Anyway, good luck explaining statue laws etc on the side of the road. Guess you could always try to sue the state to get your impound fee refunded though.

JohnnyCrash

Wossack wrote: »

hah, the old power to weight rule


If you can pick and choose which of the two conditions to comply to (which I dont believe is the case), why dont they make custom power restrictors. For example, the goldwing below, reducing the power by 10hp or so may bring within the p-t-w rule. Or sticking some cinder blocks in the panniers.


Anyway, good luck explaining statue laws etc on the side of the road. Guess you could always try to sue the state to get your impound fee refunded though.

Why dont you believe it to be the case Its written in black and white

Wossack

So if you said to me 'please do not open that door or that window'

does that mean:

1. I'm ok to open that door, as long as I dont open that window at the same time
2. I'm ok to open that window, as long as I dont open that door at the same time
3. I'm not ok to open either

cantdecide

My mate drives a restricted ZX6. He bought a couple of months ago on the basis that it's restricted but the cert was missing. When I drove it, clearly, it was over-powered, but not full power. After going back to the seller with his concerns, he spoke the seller's mechanic to see what the story was. He was in the Portlaoise area.

The bike was actually restricted by way of a custom throttle stop. The bike is dyno'd to whatever the power to weight rule allows and the throttle is stopped at that point. The guy runs off a reading from the dyno and issues a certificate to show it conforms.

He was given a change of vehicle quote from Quinn on the basis that he had to supply a restriction cert. They wouldn't insure him without it. I thought there was no way that he'd get insurance from Quinn without an FI International cert let alone with a dyno print off and a "cert" from the mechanic. He got insurance from Quinn no questions asked. Apparently the guy is one of a small handfull of garages authorised by Quinn to issue certs on this basis. I think my mate's bike ended up being almost 40 BHP and Quinn have accepted it as being all above board.

Trust me - Neither me or my mate would want to get into license/ insurance strife but in fairness, my mate has satisfied himself that he's now cosher.

JohnnyCrash

Wossack wrote: »

So if you said to me 'please do not open that door or that window'


does that mean:

1. I'm ok to open that door, as long as I dont open that window at the same time
2. I'm ok to open that window, as long as I dont open that door at the same time
3. I'm not ok to open either

If I said to you"That door has to be open or that window has to be open"
.Does that mean they both have to be open?Dont think so!!!
Or in the context of "dont this or that" has a very different meaning in the context of "It has to have this or it has to have that" Agree?

Wossack

Agree with that alright

Interesting! Wonder where my confusion is coming from.. computer science boolean OR I think is mucking my head up in this instance..

celica1994

just wondering, can a restrictor be fitted to a 1980's goldwing?

cantdecide

celica1994 wrote: »

just wondering, can a restrictor be fitted to a 1980's goldwing?

Probably not exactly learner friendlt but have a look at the manufacturer's site for listings

http://www.fiinternational.com/

celica1994

seems to do restrictors for the 1000cc 1982 one, wonder if they can do it for any other cc goldwings

cantdecide

celica1994 wrote: »

seems to do restrictors for the 1000cc 1982 one, wonder if they can do it for any other cc goldwings

Loads of them are listed- 1000/ 1100/ 1500/ 1800