Late Late Show 13-5-11

hondasam

Cris Jones wrote: »

You should be ashamed for supporting the people on this thread.

I'm not supporting anyone, It's my own opinion. I have not changed my mind from day one and I never will. I have no need to feel ashamed.

Cris Jones

hondasam wrote: »

I'm not supporting anyone, It's my own opinion. I have not changed my mind from day one and I never will. I have no need to feel ashamed.

Ok you support the uploads and messages to this thread which are nasty as well as the post from jos 28 who said that he left his kids in the car when he went into the supermarket to get milk. ok.:rolleyes:

Hedman

Serious amount of dickishness gone on in this thread.

ThomasAlan

hondasam wrote: »

they alone are responsible for what happened to Madeline.

And the person who abducted Madeline? Does he bear any responsibility for what happened to her?

JonathanAnon

gambiaman wrote: »

Yeah, DLB let it slip saying thank you for coming in this aftern...I mean evening!

I just watched it back.. good spot.. you're right.. that's exactly what he said.. The interview was most likely done this afternoon.. and reviewed by their legal team before being allowed to be aired..

Honda(normally sound but wrong on this one)Sam wrote:

The mccanns should be ashamed for leaving their kids alone and neglecting them.

I disagree Sam. I was outside a hardware store today when I saw a mother leaving her child in the car and going in to the store for 10 minutes, leaving the child alone in the car.. She cut a corner.. does she deserve to lose her child because of this... ? It's irrelevant cos she got away with..

The McCanns got complacent, thinking that they were safe where they were.. They cut a corner.. Should they be criticised.. yes .. But they dont deserve this..

aside: Given that they were "with friends" when they were over there..I thought it would have been a good question to ask "what sort of childcare arrangements had the other couples made that night"

BlaasForRafa

Cris Jones wrote: »

Ok you support the uploads and messages to this thread which are nasty as well as the post from jos 28 who said that he left his kids in the car when he went into the supermarket to get milk. ok.:rolleyes:

You sound like you need to breathe into a paper bag before you hyperventilate :rolleyes:

Most people use Occam's Razor and conclude that the parents were lying and have something to hide. Just because you've come to another conclusion dosen't mean that anyone who disagrees with you is nasty or evil or anything of the sort.

furiousox

Cris Jones wrote: »

Ok you support the uploads and messages to this thread which are nasty as well as the post from jos 28 who said that he left his kids in the car when he went into the supermarket to get milk. ok.:rolleyes:

not cool to be liking the uploads messages and nasty, obviously the kids should not be driving the car...crazy times and very danger!
you are right tho just because the milk is in the fridge does not make it cool!
so yes ok.

hondasam

ThomasAlan wrote: »

And the person who abducted Madeline? Does he bear any responsibility for what happened to her?

Do you know something the rest of the world doesn't ?

no one knows if she was abducted and who said male ?

BlaasForRafa

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I disagree Sam. I was outside a hardware store today when I saw a mother leaving her child in the car and going in to the store for 10 minutes, leaving the child alone in the car.. does she deserve to lose her child because of this... ?

Was the car locked?

the McCann's didn't take any security precautions and yet there are plenty who would absolve them of any responsibility.

hondasam

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I just watched it back.. good spot.. you're right.. that's exactly what he said.. The interview was most likely done this afternoon.. and reviewed by their legal team before being allowed to be aired..



I disagree Sam. I was outside a hardware store today when I saw a mother leaving her child in the car and going in to the store for 10 minutes, leaving the child alone in the car.. She cut a corner.. does she deserve to lose her child because of this... ? It's irrelevant cos she got away with..

The McCanns got complacent, thinking that they were safe where they were.. They cut a corner.. Should they be criticised.. yes .. But they dont deserve this..

aside: Given that they were "with friends" when they were over there..I thought it would have been a good question to ask "what sort of childcare arrangements had the other couples made that night"

I know what you are saying but The mccanns choose to go to the pub every night and leave their kids.

All the couples left their children alone, they took turns checking on each others kids.

furiousox

A question for those who think the parents are responsible for the child's disappearance...
How did they manage to dispose of the body (unnoticed) while being surrounded by the worlds media in the weeks following the incident?

hondasam

Cris Jones wrote: »

Ok you support the uploads and messages to this thread which are nasty as well as the post from jos 28 who said that he left his kids in the car when he went into the supermarket to get milk. ok.:rolleyes:

I do not support the uploads ok. happy now. as for joe I Don't know what age his kids were at the time.

JonathanAnon

hondasam wrote: »

All the couples left their children alone, they took turns checking on each others kids.

I heard that about two of the couples certainly.. but I'm surprised that more wasnt made of this.. I mean either:
a) if all the couples had been doing the same thing this would surely have absolved them of being the irresponsible parents that they are accused of being.. (i.e given that all the other parents were doing the same thing)
or
b) if the other couples HAD all employed babysitters or had invested more effort in to protecting their kids security, then surely the McCanns would have been vilified even more because of this fact.

I do not support the uploads ok. happy now. as for joe I Don't know what age his kids were at the time.

Jos is a she afaik..

vampire of kilmainham

tubbers is a brain dead twat he wouldent have a clue whatsoever of the real world he's stuck inside a glass bubble jesus if anyone really makes me puke he does:eek:

vampire of kilmainham

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is Christian Louboutin opening a new store in Ireland perhaps :rolleyes:

who's he?????? Never heard of him!!

Stella89

furiousox wrote: »

A question for those who think the parents are responsible for the child's disappearance...
How did they manage to dispose of the body (unnoticed) while being surrounded by the worlds media in the weeks following the incident?

The specialist dogs from the Uk that are trained to scent the presence of a corpse and nothing else , scented it in the mcanns appartment and in their car ( A car that was rented 20 days after the disappearence of Madeline)... These dogs don't lie { There is no record of there being any other reports of a dead body in appartment 5a or of a dead body in the rental car of the McCanns) .There was a dead body in that appartment and in that car .

The McCanns didn't bother looking for their " missing " daughter, that is a fact. They called Sky news instead .

THe worlds media were hoodwinked into believeing the Mcanns lies of an "Abduction" which has been proven inpossible by the British and Portugese investigations involved in this case!

vampire of kilmainham

i cant think what it is but there is something strange about the MC CANNS something just doesent fit

hondasam

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I heard that about two of the couples certainly.. but I'm surprised that more wasnt made of this.. I mean either:
a) if all the couples had been doing the same thing this would surely have absolved them of being the irresponsible parents that they are accused of being.. (i.e given that all the other parents were doing the same thing)
or
b) if the other couples HAD all employed babysitters or had invested more effort in to protecting their kids security, then surely the McCanns would have been vilified even more because of this fact.


Jos is a she afaik..

I can't remember now but one of the other men checked maddie and the twins once but he said he did not go into the room just peeped in. he could not be sure if she was there.

none of them had child care arranged. This is from memory I could be wrong.

apologies to jos:)

vampire of kilmainham

KeithAFC wrote: »

Thought derek acorah was on

he went out with with some after lifers for a drink at the ghost busters tavern

deelite

That was prerecorded without a doubt - Gerry put a stop to "live" interviews a few days after his daughter went missing afaik - something got to do with control. I dont think they've ever done an actual "live" interview.

Kate mentioned Mark Warner holidays a few times at the start of the interview - that just didn't sit easy with me it came across as if she was underhandedly trying to damage their reputation for family holidays (maybe that was just me).

Gerry said they were friends of our best friends (why make that distinction now).

When Kate realised her daughter was missing she ran to the table to inform Gerry - did she bring the twins with her or leave them, and why didn't she scream from the apartment to notify her husband (seeing as it was so close by).

tinkerbell

There is just no way that they had anything to do with their daughter's disappearance. Look at Kate McCann, she's just a completely broken hearted woman. There is just no way that if they were involved, that they could've kept it up for this long.

And it really annoys me when people get so high and mighty over them leaving their children in the apartment. They were at dinner 30 seconds away from their apartment door. And I know there are people who up til that time would leave their children on their own when they went on holiday. Jees, the amount of times I see kids running around the street, around large supermarkets, etc. by themselves is ridiculous.

And why try to rip apart everything they did when they found out she was missing - adrenaline took over obviously in a situation like that. You don't know what you would do in that situation.

amdublin

I hate hate HATE the way the LLS do those pre-recorded interviews and don't have the decency to tell us.

Taking us for fools or what.

I remember the Colin Farrell interview (recorded on wed eve - Colin was in japan by the time the LL aired) they even had the other guests "in" on it. Kerry Katona comes on and goes "ooh I was talking to Colin Farrell backstage, he's lovely".

What a crock :mad:

Ha ha DLB let the cat out of the bag though with his "afternoon" slip :P

Greentopia

Had an early night last night and didn't stay up to watch the LL but I wanted to see the McCann's interview so I watched it on iplayer this morning.

It was rather as I expected it to be really. I knew going on past performances (Keating being a point in case), and his reaction to the public on Twitter that he wasn't going to ask the questions many wanted him to: -why hadn't they got a babysitter to mind the children
-did they think in hindsight it was appropriate to leave 3 small children alone in a room in a country that's a haven for paedophiles while they went out socialising for the evening
-what do they make of the DNA evidence in the apartment and the sniffer dogs findings there and in the car (he only briefly touched on it without asking any questions)

He made it clear that he was only asking that one question of had they anything to do with the child's disappearance because "all week it's what the people at home have been wanting to know bla bla", thereby making it look as though he was asking reluctantly and he wouldn't have been so crass as to want to know himself)

It was just a re-run of the stoical couple holding hands and recounting for the zillionth time the events that took place.

Disappointing, but nothing new there with Tubs. :rolleyes:

Thought Christian Louboutain was interesting as I'd never seen him interviewed before and while high heels aren't my thing-I'm more a flat heeled boots and shoes in the winter and Birkenstocks in the summer kind of woman - I always like hearing what talented artists and crafts people have to say.
And I love the French accent. So sexy.
"Cab-a-RRHHHAAAAY" as he said...swoon

furiousox

Stella89 wrote: »

The specialist dogs from the Uk that are trained to scent the presence of a corpse and nothing else , scented it in the mcanns appartment and in their car ( A car that was rented 20 days after the disappearence of Madeline)... These dogs don't lie { There is no record of there being any other reports of a dead body in appartment 5a or of a dead body in the rental car of the McCanns) .There was a dead body in that appartment and in that car .

The McCanns didn't bother looking for their " missing " daughter, that is a fact. They called Sky news instead .

THe worlds media were hoodwinked into believeing the Mcanns lies of an "Abduction" which has been proven inpossible by the British and Portugese investigations involved in this case!

Ok but you still haven't answered my question.
How and when did they dispose of the body when the media and possibly local police were watching them 27/7 ?

Greentopia

tinkerbell wrote: »

There is just no way that they had anything to do with their daughter's disappearance. Look at Kate McCann, she's just a completely broken hearted woman. There is just no way that if they were involved, that they could've kept it up for this long.

And it really annoys me when people get so high and mighty over them leaving their children in the apartment. They were at dinner 30 seconds away from their apartment door. And I know there are people who up til that time would leave their children on their own when they went on holiday. Jees, the amount of times I see kids running around the street, around large supermarkets, etc. by themselves is ridiculous.

Watching Kate McCann I feel the same way. She has the look of a woman who's haunted by what's happened and been to hell and back for the last 4 years. I felt so sad for her.
Even if I found their constant promotion of that book somewhat distasteful.

She was visibly upset as she recounted what happened in the apartment the night Madeline disappeared and I for one tend to believe her story of what happened.
A lack of tears and a stiff-upper lip doesn't mean she's not going through the emotional wringer inside or implies she's guilty of hiding something.
And what would her motive be for lying? Even if an accident happened and the child was killed falling from the window or whatever somebody would have seen something, especially if they decided to dispose of the body themselves.

The husband I didn't warm to really. Especially after he said "read it in the book" when asked about their own possible involvement.
An ill-advised thing to say IMO given the media speculation and accusations about them. Would have been better to clear things up and state what he thought then and there.

I think actually they would gain a lot more public sympathy if they admitted what they did was wrong in leaving the kids unsupervised even for such a short time, but I've not heard them say that once in any interview, though I haven't seen them all of course as I haven't really followed the case that closely.

Perhaps they're worried that in doing so they may lay themselves open to some criminal charges of neglect?
or perhaps they think as doctors it would be damaging to their professional reputations to admit they made such an error in judgement, when the medical profession is built so much on trust and confidence in the competency of doctors.
Or maybe the genuinely believe they did nothing wrong. Who knows.
Maybe it's covered in da buuk.

I'm not being "high and mighty" BTW in my belief that leaving the kids was wrong. I know other people do it all the time but unless I was living in (or holidaying in) a country where child abduction simply doesn't exist such as Iceland or Denmark, where it's the norm for mothers to leave the pram outside shops with their babies in it while they go inside for a coffee or shopping; there's no way I would leave a young child alone for any length of time.
Not in this country and certainly not in Portugal.
That's the mistake they made. It was an error in judgement that cost them dearly.

weldoninhio

furiousox wrote: »

Ok but you still haven't answered my question.
How and when did they dispose of the body when the media and possibly local police were watching them 27/7 ?

They claim that she went missing at 10pm. The phone call to the police was logged at 12 midnight. That's a window of 2 hours.

Appleblossom42

walshb wrote: »

Baby listening? That is just a cop out. Simple: Young children need actual supervision. Anything less is plain stupid and negligent.

What is this, are you saying that it's the norm on some holidays for children to be left on their own, while staff just listen at all the doors occasionally? Surely hotels etc don't offer this as a service.:eek:

jos28

Cris Jones wrote: »

WEll Jos 28 said he left his kids in the car when he went into the supermarket.Are you going to go after him.:cool: Are you going to send in sick uploads and sick comments to jos 28 the forum member.

Just a couple of points of clarification. If you read my post correctly you will note that I did not say supermarket, I said shop. Which in my case was my local village shop where I stood less than 20 yards from my car. I stood at the door, asked the assistant to pass me the milk while keeping my eye on the children at all times. This occurred over twenty years ago and I mentioned it to prove that as parents many of us have taken risks. It is very easy for people to get on a high horse and claim that they were always perfect parents. I challenge any parent to swear that they NEVER took their eyes off their children as some stage. As regards the thread, I would argue that it is not a 'sick thread' as you state. If you read back through the thread you will see posts that reflect both sides of what has become a very divisive issue. Admittedly some people posted what I consider to be distasteful images which are doing the rounds on forums and emails worldwide. If you look beyond them you will see some rational and compassionate posts. The main point that I was trying to make is that I cannot understand why I struggle to feel sympathy for the McCanns. If you read my post correctly you will see that I was attempting to ascertain why. If you read post 776 by Greentopia, you will see that she offers a very plausible explanation;' I think actually they would gain a lot more public sympathy if they admitted what they did was wrong in leaving the kids unsupervised even for such a short time, but I've not heard them say that once in any interview' This is the kind of response I was endeavoring to find. By the way, as Jonathonanon pointed out - I am female (and as human as most parents) !

amdublin

Appleblossom42 wrote: »

What is this, are you saying that it's the norm on some holidays for children to be left on their own, while staff just listen at all the doors occasionally? Surely hotels etc don't offer this as a service.:eek:

YES!!!

Standard practice.
Pre-Madeleine of course.

Very easy for us all to demonise the McCanns with the benefit of hindsight.

iamwhoiam

tinkerbell wrote: »

There is just no way that they had anything to do with their daughter's disappearance. Look at Kate McCann, she's just a completely broken hearted woman. There is just no way that if they were involved, that they could've kept it up for this long.

And it really annoys me when people get so high and mighty over them leaving their children in the apartment. They were at dinner 30 seconds away from their apartment door. And I know there are people who up til that time would leave their children on their own when they went on holiday. Jees, the .

Just to clarify that and I am not arguing for either side at the minute . It wasnt 30 seconds away , what they failed to point out was that you cant walk in a straight line from the Tapas bar to number 5a .You have to walk to the complex entrance and out on the road and then up to the steps of that apartment and in that way . To see the apartment sliding doors from the bar you would need to stand on a chair .
Personally , having seen that apartment and seen its vulnerability I would not have left my credit cards on the table exposed to danger .I wonder did the Mc Canns ?