Rottie Question

kennyw

Heya all,
I have been following the threads on the forum now the past while and have noticed there is a gud few people on here that are into their rotties and are well educated on the breed.

I myself am an avid follower lover and owner of 2 rotties, and the question I have is on behalf of my youngest of my girls.

Shes just gone over 14 months. perfect health record, no aggression, an absolutle pleasure to be have as part of the family.

I have noticed lately (past month) that her coat near the hind quaters, just at the top line where her (Stop is), is starting to turn a tinge of red/off brown fur protraying from underneath her otherwise flawless black shine.

Is this a common thing to happen to a young rottie and will it grow out or is it sumthing that is inclined to get worse with age..?

I have an older rottie, going on 3yrs and iv never noticed her ever getting anything similar to this.

Im not worried about it just a general question to see what you think and to share your taughts..

Thanks in advance.

andreac

Hi there.
Im an owner of 2 rotties too, male and female. My female is 11 months old now and im having problems with her coat which i never had with the male.

Im nearly sure its because she is still losing her puppy coat as the hair is very fluffy thats coming out so its not her proper adult. Im furminating her everyday and im giving her loads of Flax oil to try and hlep her coat too.
But like your dog she has this red/brown tinge on certain parts.
Im considering changing her food too to see will it help.

Just to ask, is your dog outside much? As the sun can actually burn the skin and can cause that brown colouring if they are left out in the sunshine too much.

What food are you feeding and how old is your dog?

kennyw

heya andreac,

thanks for such a quick response. I have read many of the posts youv replied too.

she is 14 months, have had her since she was 8 weeks.

shes on a dry nut diet mixed every so often with sum tuna oil, tripe and the occasional roast beef that myself an my fiancé cook up.

Like you iv never had any problems with my other female been feed the exact same since go her at 6 months.

Shes regularly outside but not for long term, about 1 hour in mornings to stretch those growing muslces. I walk & run both them every day for at least an hour and are feed twice a day.

Once in morning and once in the evening about an hour after been walked.. I groom them both every night and dont wash often as i know myself that rotties have senstive skin and are higher risk to getting skin issues..

kennyw

how old is your male if you dont mind me asking.? I was always wanting to get a male dog, maybe in the future once i have the space for 3..lol

Where you at the show in the IKC center last week by anychance, cause i do recall in previous posts you mentioning that you show yours.

I would love to get into it but its just so hard to get the time to committ to showing them to a profesional level.

andreac

You're welcome.

Well all i can say is i feel your pain. Im slightly miffed about my ones coat as well but im going to persist with the Furminator and the oil and changing her food and see does it help in a few weeks.
If its any consolation i know a lot of rotties that are the same too so im just not sure what it is.
Like you, mine are rarely outside for long so its def not sun damage either so its really annoying.
Is she she shedding at the moment? Has she had a season or is she due to come into season too as this can upset the coat due to the hormones?

What brand of food are you feeding?

With rotties, their skin and coat can be very sensitive. I have problems with my male and Hot spots with certain food so i have to be very careful what i feed him.

ISDW

I've always found with black dogs that I've had, their fur always turns a brownish/reddish colour in tufts when they're shedding, when it comes out, the new coat is black again.

andreac

kennyw wrote: »

how old is your male if you dont mind me asking.? I was always wanting to get a male dog, maybe in the future once i have the space for 3..lol

Where you at the show in the IKC center last week by anychance, cause i do recall in previous posts you mentioning that you show yours.

I would love to get into it but its just so hard to get the time to committ to showing them to a profesional level.

Hi, yes i was there, my pup wont best puppy in show at the rottweiler club show. My male is 4 now. Hes on the rottweiler club of ireland site.
Were you at the show last weekend? Maybe i was chatting to you if you were?
Yes i show both of mine. Cooper the male is an Irish Champion and has been to Crufts and the pup is being shown too.

kennyw

Im glad to hear its sumthing common at the moment so not worried that is could of been a genitic flaw.

I think il just have to stick to the grooming sides of it an constant love might just help..

yes your bang on.. shes actually came into heat only there 3 days ago, but im baffelled that the coat would of changed so early before hand..
she sheds like any indoor dog really, constantly due to the artifical light an heat indoors.

I feel your pain on teh hot spots sides of things, my older female got a few last year, while she was been looked after by my friends while i was on holidays.. they obviosly werent taking gud care of her.. Be sure to know they werent asked to look after her again. The vet taut it may have been also linked to sum kind of fly or flea bites or just aniexty of been away from my fiance an I..

thankfully doh she hasnt had them since. But its intresting to know the diet can cause them also.. i wasnt aware of this.. Gud info there

kennyw

andreac wrote: »

Hi, yes i was there, my pup wont best puppy in show at the rottweiler club show. My male is 4 now. Hes on the rottweiler club of ireland site.
Were you at the show last weekend? Maybe i was chatting to you if you were?
Yes i show both of mine. Cooper the male is an Irish Champion and has been to Crufts and the pup is being shown too.

Aww im delighted for you.. Congratulations.. Quite the Dogs you got there so. I may have a look on the site for him. I really appricate the time some people like you put into there animals.

Unfortunitly i didnt get the chance to get up there as i only found out last wednesday and it was too short notice to get up to it.

I am going to a dog show in waterford race course this sunday doh, only a regional show for a look and a day out with my 2 girls to meet an greet all new friends.

andreac

Ah very good, well there are shows on all the time. If you are from Waterford there is one on the end of June at Tramore racecourse and its an IKC champ show.
Well i love all the work that goes into getting your dog in condition for the shows as thats all part of the fun and enjoyment of having a dog too.

If you are looking for my fella hes called CH Cuchulain The Brave:)

Just a point, i wouldnt be bringing your bitch thats in heat to the show on sunday, it wouldnt be fair to other dogs that are there, the males as it drives them crazy.
Yeah hot spots are quite prone due to diet, well in my fellas case thats what causes them.

Well the season would def play a big part in their coat as ive been told by all the rottie people that the bitches are so much more prone to all that kind of stuff when they come into season.
The males are def much easier to have lol:D

Sassy58

Andreac - did you by any chance attend the Rottie Walk in the Phoenix Park 2 years ago or so with Cooper that Ann from Dundalk Rescue organised.....if so your guy is a stunner.

OP our female rottie is 3 & 1/2 and haven't noticed any change in the colour of her coat - she is a house dog so only goes out for toilet breaks - she is also on a dry mixed food - will be keeping an eye on her.

andreac

Sassy58 wrote: »

Andreac - did you by any chance attend the Rottie Walk in the Phoenix Park 2 years ago or so with Cooper that Ann from Dundalk Rescue organised.....if so your guy is a stunner.

OP our female rottie is 3 & 1/2 and haven't noticed any change in the colour of her coat - she is a house dog so only goes out for toilet breaks - she is also on a dry mixed food - will be keeping an eye on her.

I think i was there alright, i was def at a walk in the Phoenix Park with lots of rotties there so id say that was me, but thank you very much:D

Sassy58

LOL I think i was talking to you when a terrier decided it wanted a piece of my rottie lol

kennyw

oh yess says churchill,:)
il have that show chalked down for the end of june. im luking forward to it.. its nice seen so many decent dogs iin the one place at any one time.. the exciting buzz of all the tails waggin an the happy toungues on the dogs when they are around there own kind is second to none.

your fella is amazng. lovely dog.. will you b down for the show in waterford yourself.?

i wont be bringin the younger dog down ike you said, it surely wudnt be fair flaunting her pretty self to all the possible males.. haha

would you think that intact males are a little harder to handle, i.e house training, socialisation etc.?

andreac

Hi again, yes ill be down there showing that weekend.:)

With the males,esp ones that are kept intact, i wouldnt say harder to handle but they need a lot of training and socialisation from the word go. I put A LOT of work into my male from the word go as he was my first rottie and i wanted to make sure i was doing everything right, so i have a great dog for it now.
But i will say, male rotties are big strong dogs, and my male doesnt really tolerate other intact males around him. Hes not aggressive and will happily be around them, but i couldnt let him run free with other intact males, i just wouldnt take the chance.
I show him every weekend with other male rotties around too and he is fine, he doesnt growl be aggressive, but if a dog was to come too close or be a bit rowdy, he will react to a point so i have to make sure he is under control all the time.

But, if you asked me to choose male or female, it would be males hands down, no question. The males are just fab and i always wanted a male as my first one. I just got a bitch for my 2nd rottie more convenience (apart from when shes in season....:eek:)

House training my male was def easier i thought, he wasnt a chewer where my female is a little destructive. The female is a little more placid where as my male is very boisterous and can be over eager when meeting new people and gets so excited and worked up, all in a good way.

So there is a huge difference ive found between the males and females but already i cant wait for my next male, but wont be for a while yet as fingers crossed Cooper has a few more years left in him yet:)

Any chance of some pics of your two?

**Vai**

OP, could it be from a wound or cut of any kind? My terrier (schnauzer coloured, black and silver) grew a small patch of red/brown hair over the scar from her neutering, its a long shot but just said I'd mention it.

Andrea, any chance of a pic of your lad? Sounds like a beaut.

andreac

**Vai** wrote: »

OP, could it be from a wound or cut of any kind? My terrier (schnauzer coloured, black and silver) grew a small patch of red/brown hair over the scar from her neutering, its a long shot but just said I'd mention it.

Andrea, any chance of a pic of your lad? Sounds like a beaut.

Thanks a mill.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055172350&page=237
Fourth post down:)

**Vai**

He's lovely. What height is he? Looks about the same height as my GSD but I always though she was a runt.

andreac

Hes around 25 inches or so to his withers, so he would be a tall enough male.

**Vai**

Ah right, 2 inches taller than Kimba so. He's built like a tank though, my one still looks like a puppy.

andreac

My fella is 4 and half and hes 50kg, usually goes anywhere between 48-50kg.

antomagoo

our Rottie is getting a small tinge of red/off brown fur as well, she's about two and a half / three years old, only noticed it in the last few months

kennyw

andreac wrote: »

Hi again, yes ill be down there showing that weekend.:)

With the males,esp ones that are kept intact, i wouldnt say harder to handle but they need a lot of training and socialisation from the word go. I put A LOT of work into my male from the word go as he was my first rottie and i wanted to make sure i was doing everything right, so i have a great dog for it now.
But i will say, male rotties are big strong dogs, and my male doesnt really tolerate other intact males around him. Hes not aggressive and will happily be around them, but i couldnt let him run free with other intact males, i just wouldnt take the chance.
I show him every weekend with other male rotties around too and he is fine, he doesnt growl be aggressive, but if a dog was to come too close or be a bit rowdy, he will react to a point so i have to make sure he is under control all the time.

But, if you asked me to choose male or female, it would be males hands down, no question. The males are just fab and i always wanted a male as my first one. I just got a bitch for my 2nd rottie more convenience (apart from when shes in season....:eek:)

House training my male was def easier i thought, he wasnt a chewer where my female is a little destructive. The female is a little more placid where as my male is very boisterous and can be over eager when meeting new people and gets so excited and worked up, all in a good way.

So there is a huge difference ive found between the males and females but already i cant wait for my next male, but wont be for a while yet as fingers crossed Cooper has a few more years left in him yet:)

Any chance of some pics of your two?

sorry for the delayed response, I just might see you so at that show in a couple of weeks, il b shouting for "The Brave"..lol

Thanks for that info, its fasinating to get a first hand understanding in detail on how the difference between male an female rottie.. I can totaly understand the destructive female sides of it.. my older bitch when she was a puppy from about 6 month to a year had a gud go at my old rented property, fencing around the back yard was chewed to saw dust.. curtains indoors took her fancy in the night time, she must of wanted extra blankets lol

in saying all that shes clamed down 90% now an is just a dote and shes a gud teacher an best friend to my younger bitch, the 2 of them are inseperable. two peas in a pod. its lovely to see the companionship with them.

I had house trainded them both in at the most 4-5 days. no indoor mistake bar the very odd time when it was my bad for not waking up to alarm. iv got 2 creates for them now so they can sleep undisturbed till i can let them out, i.e after pressing snooze on the alarm. hehehe

Its great that you have so much time an effort put into the dog(s) and you fully understand the situations an complications around them, i.e male intact around other males. I think alot of people over see this and they get complaciant which in turns to bad press sum times. If only the rest of the dog lovers understood what they owned an how to handle there pets as well ther wudnt be any problems.

sure, i can get you a pic of my pair no problem, il find them on my work pc here now and il try upload them for you.. :)

kennyw

**Vai** wrote: »

OP, could it be from a wound or cut of any kind? My terrier (schnauzer coloured, black and silver) grew a small patch of red/brown hair over the scar from her neutering, its a long shot but just said I'd mention it.

Andrea, any chance of a pic of your lad? Sounds like a beaut.

aww thanks for the suggestion. i check for any unusual scratchs or cuts or growths nearly everyday when grooming them, but i havent noticed anything physical bar the colour change in part of the fur/coat. Im going to maybe alter her diet after shes finished her heat cycle an se if that improves anythin.


I lik the schnauzer breed, what are their personailties like as a breed.. i havent had much dealings with owners or people around them.? alwasy nice to learn about alternative breeds when have the chance.

thanks again for the reply:)

kennyw

sorry for sum of the quailty of the pics, hard to upload jpeg images on here, had to save them in paint as diff file type so lost sum quailty of colour.

Hope you can still see them, i have a shed load of pics on them so i cud end up loading unlimited amounts hahah had to restrain meself.. haha

andreac

Awh your doggies are fab, lovely names too.

LucyBliss

Excuse me a moment, won't you, while I abandon all signs of being a sensible dog owner: Aw, look at the lickle cute puppy face!!! Adorable!
Not to mention amazing when you consider what fine big dogs they grow into.

Beautiful pictures, kennyw, thanks for sharing.

kennyw

aww thanks very much the two of yee for the comments. (",) im very proud of the 2 of them..

have you got dogs yourself lucybliss..?

Andreac iv got a question about the show next month.. is it possible to bring the dogs with me to the show or what is the situation around dogs not been entered, been brought to the event.??

andreac

Kennyw, it say the rules are that un entered dogs are not allowed on the show grounds so might be best not to bring them.
They could be liable to ask you to leave if they know the dogs arent entered but they dont often do that, but i wouldnt take the chance myself, just in case.

Shanao

kennyw wrote: »

sorry for sum of the quailty of the pics, hard to upload jpeg images on here, had to save them in paint as diff file type so lost sum quailty of colour.

Hope you can still see them, i have a shed load of pics on them so i cud end up loading unlimited amounts hahah had to restrain meself.. haha

Beautiful dogs. Have wanted a rottie for ages, pretty sure we'll get one eventually, though we'll have to move and get a bigger house first.

@ Andreac- what's the story with showing docked dogs over here? Is it the same thing that you cant show them if they've been docked after a certain time?

kennyw

andreac wrote: »

Kennyw, it say the rules are that un entered dogs are not allowed on the show grounds so might be best not to bring them.
They could be liable to ask you to leave if they know the dogs arent entered but they dont often do that, but i wouldnt take the chance myself, just in case.

Thanks very much.. just wanted to clarify it.
The last thing i want to do is head out with them an have to turn around and come back..

But il be sure to be there for a look and to see your man cooper in action. He is stunning..

When your training them for the show, on the stance.. how do you get them to keep their back legs braced.? is there a trick too making them hold it that way..??