THE queen, THE DAY IRELAND SOLD OUT(20/05/11)

whatshappenin

shes gone now what did u do,NOTHING agian, u forget so easy as u always did and now again, free state my arse

ap1986

whatshappenin wrote: »

shes gone now what did u do,NOTHING agian, u forget so easy as u always did and now again, free state my arse

job done,she came..she saw....she inspired a nation and even spoke irish......what have you done for the country in the last few months

whatshappenin

payed for her holiday

ap1986

whatshappenin wrote: »

payed for her holiday

she looked great for 85...i suppose we would too if we never worked a day in our life!!!!!

whatshappenin

job what done, did she say sorry NO, irelands lost the plot, uda orange order, enlish ambassador, head of the psni and the rest in dublin castle, war crimes she is wanted in this country

ap1986

whatshappenin wrote: »

job what done, did she say sorry NO, irelands lost the plot, uda orange order, enlish ambassador, head of the psni and the rest in dublin castle, war crimes she is wanted in this country

sorry man but stop livin in the past and move on! did you say a personal thanks to her for all the money the english gave us in the bail out??

whatshappenin

ap1986 wrote: »

sorry man but stop livin in the past and move on! did you say a personal thanks to her for all the money the english gave us in the bail out??

stop living in the past my hole, listen to what you are saying, so what happened to the years of fighting for a free ireland, turn round now and say ah sure it was great fun you had us for 800 hundred years, destroyed us took are language of us but its grand shes a great woman, what a lovely dress, what is ireland now??

Tar.Aldarion

you are the past

ap1986

whatshappenin wrote: »

stop living in the past my hole, listen to what you are saying, so what happened to the years of fighting for a free ireland, turn round now and say ah sure it was great fun you had us for 800 hundred years, destroyed us took are language of us but its grand shes a great woman, what a lovely dress, what is ireland now??

are u a fluent irish speaker

whatshappenin

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

you are the past

lets just close are eyes and forget about it as we did, no wonder the country is so cat

ap1986

whatshappenin wrote: »

lets just close are eyes and forget about it as we did, no wonder the country is so cat

i can see your white flag waving

Shield

whatshappenin wrote: »

took are language of us

Ah so that's who you blame.

whatshappenin

ap1986 wrote: »

are u a fluent irish speaker

of course, im from wst belfast now living in the south of ireland and another thing i didnt see many people from the north down at the queen, you know why

Iang87

whatshappenin wrote: »

stop living in the past my hole, listen to what you are saying, so what happened to the years of fighting for a free ireland, turn round now and say ah sure it was great fun you had us for 800 hundred years, destroyed us took are language of us but its grand shes a great woman, what a lovely dress, what is ireland now??

took our language. The best thing the english gave us was there language, imagine the state we would be in if we were on our own little island speaking a foreign language. We'd be ****ed simple as that.

What is Ireland Now?? Better for it for the most part maybe now clowns like you will be silenced as the rest of the world looks on and sees the intelligent ones realise history is something to be read about and learn from

ap1986

Iang87 wrote: »

took our language. The best thing the english gave us was there language, imagine the state we would be in if we were on our own little island speaking a foreign language. We'd be ****ed simple as that.

What is Ireland Now?? Better for it for the most part maybe now clowns like you will be silenced as the rest of the world looks on and sees the intelligent ones realise history is something to be read about and learn from

here here take a bow!!!

whatshappenin

sell out, the history of ireland

Yillan

The queen's visit might well mean Ireland is selling out.

Hopefully it will mean we are selling out every single hotel room, restaurant cover and concert venue in the country

Iang87

sell out jesus christ I love Ireland but what part of that means hating the british. Shouldn't we also hate the scandinavians for allowing their vikings come here and robbing everything they found.

Seriously grow up civilization has moved on massively since the british first took rule of ireland so maybe you should move on too like the most of the country.

Or were you one of the lads out throwing bricks at guards wearing an ENGLISH soccer jersey. If you weren't you should be aware thats the type of stupidity you will be associated with because of your outdated view on how the country runs

guitarzero

ap1986 wrote: »

sorry man but stop livin in the past and move on! did you say a personal thanks to her for all the money the english gave us in the bail out??

Ah, ok, I'm not really on any band wagon here but shut up about this whole "move on" crap, really. Its not backward to begrugde her visit. Its not neccesarily progressive to support it.

People clearly feel disenfranchised about the 6 counties and our history, others not. What she and her visit symbolizes seems pretty varied across this country.

What do we actually know about the Queen? What does her life and words represent to you? What does Ireland and Nationalism mean to you?

This visit was the best litmus test with regards to nationalism and our view on history. When I say IRA one will say terrorist others will say freedom fighter. And this visit is the same crap. Drop the idea of Ireland, it means nothing. The factions are a testament. What you thought was Irish was in your mind. Your view on history only belongs to you. This is the sad, confusing reality for everyone.

We all want to be correct on this issue but it doesnt make it better. We are still divided. There are those looking down on our own people while giving reverence to monarchy, to elitism, to excess wealth. The 6 counties are still under british rule by what was force but do ALL Irish people care? Certainly not. Was monarchy involved in this? They certainly were. People have had their lives taken and marred by British Imperialism but do ALL Irish care? No. You can try and embed in their heads that what the British did was wrong but they "have moved on".

Of course, I'm sure many of those, if not the majority who say move on didnt really have to "move on". They have perhaps never been directly affected by the British Forces. They havent experienced it. And thats ok too.

What it means to be Irish is actually nothing. Everything is still about survival. Thats what the Irish were, a tribe who depended on eachother for survival. Then grew communities and eventually a country. But it was all out of survivial. Now survival means economy. So our allegences have switched to where the money goes, not what language you speak or flag on your passport or what tribe you were of.


To be Irish means different things to people. Many feel ashamed and inferior. Many feel passionate. But you cant expect people to empathize with you on what it is to be Irish. I can assure you if you proved the Queen was head of all operations to dismantle this country, many wouldnt give an F. If she were the head of the British army that has murdered so many innocent people, again, so what. If the all the rumours were true about Prince Philip people wouldnt bat an eyelid. Thats how people are.

ap1986

guitarzero wrote: »

Ah, ok, I'm not really on any band wagon here but shut up about this whole "move on" crap, really. Its not backward to begrugde her visit. Its not neccesarily progressive to support it.

People clearly feel disenfranchised about the 6 counties and our history, others not. What she and her visit symbolizes seems pretty varied across this country.

What do we actually know about the Queen? What does her life and words represent to you? What does Ireland and Nationalism mean to you?

This visit was the best litmus test with regards to nationalism and our view on history. When I say IRA one will say terrorist others will say freedom fighter. And this visit is the same crap. Drop the idea of Ireland, it means nothing. The factions are a testament. What you thought was Irish was in your mind. Your view on history only belongs to you. This is the sad, confusing reality for everyone.

We all want to be correct on this issue but it doesnt make it better. We are still divided. There are those looking down on our own people while giving reverence to monarchy, to elitism, to excess wealth. The 6 counties are still under british rule by what was force but do ALL Irish people care? Certainly not. Was monarchy involved in this? They certainly were. People have had their lives taken and marred by British Imperialism but do ALL Irish care? No. You can try and embed in their heads that what the British did was wrong but they "have moved on".

Of course, I'm sure many of those, if not the majority who say move on didnt really have to "move on". They have perhaps never been directly affected by the British Forces. They havent experienced it. And thats ok too.

What it means to be Irish is actually nothing. Everything is still about survival. Thats what the Irish were, a tribe who depended on eachother for survival. Then grew communities and eventually a country. But it was all out of survivial. Now survival means economy. So our allegences have switched to where the money goes, not what language you speak or flag on your passport or what tribe you were of.


To be Irish means different things to people. Many feel ashamed and inferior. Many feel passionate. But you cant expect people to empathize with you on what it is to be Irish. I can assure you if you proved the Queen was head of all operations to dismantle this country, many wouldnt give an F. If she were the head of the British army that has murdered so many innocent people, again, so what. If the all the rumours were true about Prince Philip people wouldnt bat an eyelid. Thats how people are.

a valid point my friend,i respect you for you writing that reply

whatshappenin

ap1986 wrote: »

here here take a bow!!!

yea to the queen traitor, like the rest, what about bloody sunday when the so called free state did nothing, maybe i am the past but you need to fecking know it, they screwed us for so long and if it was the other way round, they would be still fighting wit us

Iang87

fantastic post guitarzero

ap1986

whatshappenin wrote: »

yea to the queen traitor, like the rest, what about bloody sunday when the so called free state did nothing, maybe i am the past but you need to fecking know it, they screwed us for so long and if it was the other way round, they would be still fighting wit us

ill agree with u to a certain extent but that was almost 100 years ago,things have gotten better throughout the years instead of worse and i mo thuraim things can only get better

guitarzero

ap1986 wrote: »

job done,she came..she saw....she inspired a nation and even spoke irish......what have you done for the country in the last few months

She didnt inspire a nation, it was the most underwhelming pile of crap. An old lady on a visit, laying a wreath, visiting landmarks and schools, were you on something??

ap1986

guitarzero wrote: »

She didnt inspire a nation, it was the most underwhelming pile of crap. An old lady on a visit, laying a wreath, visiting landmarks and schools, were you on something??

no offence but what do presidents generally do on a visit to different counries....visit famous places cut ribbons ect...i know the queen aint a president but shes the next best thing to the uk

whatshappenin

if it was the other way round are president would be wanted on war crimes but sure who cares they got the power

guitarzero

ap1986 wrote: »

no offence but what do presidents generally do on a visit to different counries....visit famous places cut ribbons ect...i know the queen aint a president but shes the next best thing to the uk

Still, I dont agree. A granny visiting places, cutting ribbons? Regardless of protocal I'd rather listen to the crackling of grass grow. Its was a flat tyre.

NIMAN

I would love all the anti-British, anti-Royals (they are probably anti-everything) to actually tell us what Britain and the Queen needs to do to make things better.

Because one thing is guaranteed, if they got everything they demanded, and I mean everything, they would still hate the British. Because thats just the way they are.

guitarzero

whatshappenin wrote: »

if it was the other way round are president would be wanted on war crimes but sure who cares they got the power

See, not everyone cares man. You have to realize that not everyone is a sensitive person. Some are very desensitized to others hurt or pain. This is why we live in a dog eat dog world. Some laugh at violence, be it Call of Duty or rape on a porn vid, the species is actually ****ed up. Dont separate yourself from the Queen, inside everyone there is a killer waiting for a reason.

Goldenegg

I'm sorry but you are the person in the wrong here. The likes of you are a minority now. People have moved on.

It might come as a shock for you to learn that alot of the countries youth have been forced to move over to the uk for employment and for a better life. It is the country who donated a hell of a lot of money towards our bail out.

While I do agree that what happened in the past was terrible, I don't agree living in it. The woman came, she saw, she interacted with the crowd and looked genuinely interested in our country. I for one am happy she came, I'm also happy Obama will be here too. It's about time our little island is on the news worldwide for something positive and not for the usual negative comments such as our lack of economy oh and our previous drunk slob of a Taoiseach!

guitarzero

NIMAN wrote: »

I would love all the anti-British, anti-Royals (they are probably anti-everything) to actually tell us what Britain and the Queen needs to do to make things better.

Because one thing is guaranteed, if they got everything they demanded, and I mean everything, they would still hate the British. Because thats just the way they are.

Well it depends on how you feel about what Britains legacy here is. What is their legacy? They seemed to have gone to nearly every country and devastated it. Like a religion, when you are born into their system it can be quite hard to discern what life would be like without it. Its hard to know if it would have been better or worse but on a fair note, at least we could only have blamed ourselves if we ballzed it up.

People seem to forget that forgiveness can be a complicated thing. Hurt can be forgotten in its visuals but its pain can go unseen. So when the Queen comes the hurt resurfaces again for many. This is not a backward thing, its in fact deeper than that. This can be hard for people on all sides.

People need to start hearing eachother on deeper levels if we are to come to an understanding. There were people in the north of Ireland who perhaps felt pretty cut off by this visit, like smearing shit in their face. Of course its easy for people down here to say move on and thats understandable. But there are lives who were watching in utter disbelief that we gave respect to a British Tyrant. I think these people need to be considered.