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League of Legends (LoL) General Chat Thread
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IRL_Sinister wrote: »It's a shame me and Orizio have played SC2 together in the past (for years and are good buddies) and this post is 100% sarcastic, as would be suggested by my previous posts.
Sums up this community nicely
"Suggested", not everyone will pick up on that & sarcasm in written text does not work.
Anyone watch Ranger14s videos? Gives some great tips.
Same with gbay99 although his are more about the midset & not being a total asshole ingame. He takes a lot from the art of war and applies it to league which is very interesting.0 -
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That is a good article. I seriously doubt the majority of LoL players will ever actually pick up on what it means though. They'll just read articles like that and think to themselves 'yes, other peoples ego's are the problem'.
I don't agree that a role finder is a good idea though. Just because it exists in wow doesn't make it good and also LoL's meta shifts more frequently (and there are, technically, more than 5 roles.) A role finder just means you'll only end up with a situation similar to what happened in wow where specific important roles became rarer because:
a) everyone wants to play the popular (read: easier) roles
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b) the people who do play those roles get exposed to even more abuse because people will have higher standards for people who choose to queue those roles, and as a result will play less games.
Maybe it's changed since but I definitely remember WoW having to bribe underplayed roles pretty hard.
I've said it before but probably not here, the wow random dungeon pug community is worse than the lol levelling community (although I've yet to hit 30 so can't compare ranked soloqueue to wow pugs yet, I really can't see it being worse. Bear in mind, WoW pugs will flame as hard as LoL players for simply not beating content quickly enough, for doing ready checks before a boss and for checking to make sure they know the strategies even when they're the ones slowing things down by doing low damage, they aren't ready and they don't know the strategies...)
And in LoL it will force a specific meta. Probably the north american one.
A better alternative would be a flag system where players flag (perhaps via some sort of icon) which roles they want to play, but don't queue specifically for them. Might help reduce the 'I called it first!' arguments.
I don't want to get into a big discussion about what you've said (because it will just turn into a sh*t show) but I agree with that train of thought. I'm still at the levelling process (although I get matched up against/with Silver's regularly) and I had the discussion with Orizio earlier when we played about roles. We wanted to do premade bot but then someone chose EZ and insta-locked so we were like "whatever". So I went Amumu sick jungler (and carried that bronze noob
) and he went mid. I proceeded to say, I want to learn as many roles competently as possible before starting Ranked (which improves my play but also prevents me from restricting/getting in the way of my allies) and that I wanted to learn Hecarim to learn to jungle well (because, from what I've seen he seems like one of the strongest Junglers). It was at this point Orizio brought up your exact point about flamers and warned me that Junglers (especially) get targeted with all the hate. That's such a shame, tbh.
In Normal Games I literally don't care at all. Everyone was new once, and everyone wants to improve (I assume). Therefore, in order not to be a complete assh*le you learn new champs and things in Normal (right?). It's a shame that Ranked seems to encourage negative behaviour or this "toxic hell" that is constantly discussed (or so I've heard; I'm only level 25).
But yeah, I won't go into a deep discussion about it because 1) I'm not good enough to talk about balance, etc and 2) it will just turn into a toxic sh*t hole of doom like everything else on boards
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Lost 8 of my last 10 games. My two wins came from me playing Hec :mad: Its so frustrating when my team sucks. Was really thinking about quitting last night, cant imagine what i will be like when i start ranked in two levels. Ill have to play Hec every game 0
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YouSavedMyLife wrote: »Lost 8 of my last 10 games. My two wins came from me playing Hec :mad: Its so frustrating when my team sucks. Was really thinking about quitting last night, cant imagine what i will be like when i start ranked in two levels. Ill have to play Hec every game
Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the EXACT reason why you shouldn't jump straight into Ranked games? As I've aforementioned several times I believe the best way to approach Ranked games is to do them (first-time) when you have a solid grasp of several champs AND several roles. Like I said in the above post, I jumped on a Gold II account today having 1) never played support and 2) never played Taric and completely stomped in the three games. It's all about attitude, mechanics and ability. If you go into Ranked with a mentality that everyone else sucks well then you probably deserve to lose (and I know you don't mean it that way). But, yeah, back to my opening comment I believe what you are saying is the exact reason why you should _NOT_ play ranked in 2 more levels.
Also, baring in mind I am still a baddy; try playing Support for 10 games. Your awareness will just snowball (in a positive way). It's a tip I've read on several sites and definitely something that is well worth trying. Also, from what I've heard the current free Champ, Lulu, is one of the strongest supports in the current Meta (then again I heard this from a pro mate I don't actually know myself).0 -
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Actually, the best way to climb is to keep playing the one champ over and over and in the current meta Hec is one of the 4 god junglers along with Xin, j4 and Vi. You'll also find it easier to get jungler most games as the most highly contested roles are mid, top and adc. You becomea good enough hec and you'll be able to run him quite successfully in toplane too.YouSavedMyLife wrote: »Lost 8 of my last 10 games. My two wins came from me playing Hec :mad: Its so frustrating when my team sucks. Was really thinking about quitting last night, cant imagine what i will be like when i start ranked in two levels. Ill have to play Hec every game
Im gold on a few different servers but Im mostly an adc player as I can play each one capably and would pick depending on counters or team synergy. I regret not just going Rumble every game in s1 and s2 though as he was my best champion by far but I got put off by the countrability of toplane. Simple fact is though that if you become good enough at a champ, being counterpicked by an inferior player shouldnt matter too much.0 -
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