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  • 23-05-2011 7:01pm
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    Get Cracking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭


    hi,
    thinking of advertising my new biz in the golden pages .ie,
    online only,
    prices vary ,but to get something decent would cost about 1200 for the year,no trials no half measures,
    does anyone here use this?
    or do you know anyone who does?
    basically end result would be ;when sommeone googles my line of work the golden pages will turn up on the first page,
    then they MIGHT click on the g.p.,
    then my biz will be there:D in the middle of 15 others:mad:.
    but the SALESMAN reckons it will still work.
    theres one option for 2400 + VAT that he reckons would be to powerful for me.or so he says!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    DoMyBooks
    Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭DoMyBooks


    I personally wouldn't go near it. Id invest the €1200 in a website or SEO if you already have a website.


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    Get Cracking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    The website has beem maxed out with seo activity,but seen as we just published it last wendsday it is well back on the listings,
    I would love to pump it somewhere else ,but when the phone is not ringing its hard not to.


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    Kinetic^
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    Get Cracking wrote: »
    The website has beem maxed out with seo activity,but seen as we just published it last wendsday it is well back on the listings,
    I would love to pump it somewhere else ,but when the phone is not ringing its hard not to.

    Don't do anything with goldenpages, it's a dead medium. Get in touch with an adwords specialist and get them to draw up a campaign for you. You'll get a hell of a lot of clicks for the same money you're going to spend with goldenpages.


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    Get Cracking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    That's good thinking,I will sus it out.thanks.:)


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    Chet Zar
    Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Chet Zar


    WOW 1200 euro for a Golden Pages listing....beggars belief I'm almost lost for words!! Just shows how we still have so much ground to make up in terms of online marketing and promotion when the Golden Pages still can get people paying that kind of cash for a listing in an outdated book...course it still has its place but really!!

    As Kinetic^ says, you could get a massive amount of exposure on the first page of Google.ie for that price.


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    Get Cracking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    Guys ,I met him today in myos,1200e was for an ok add ,it went up to 2400 plus vat for the whole 9 yards,that's just online,for a page in the book and online was close to 15,000plus vat.


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    Chet Zar
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    Get Cracking wrote: »
    Guys ,I met him today in myos,1200e was for an ok add ,it went up to 2400 plus vat for the whole 9 yards,that's just online,for a page in the book and online was close to 15,000plus vat.

    Hope it stays fine for them!!


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    Get Cracking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    So yesterday my website was ranked on page 12,13,14,.
    I got up this morning it was 2nd organic on the first page!!!!
    Then the golden pages guys calls me,so i tell him im not sure what to do as my site seems to be coming up on several diferent searchs on the 1st page,
    He explains to me that this is beacause I click on my site a lot and google knows what i am looking for.
    He said its not coming up on his at all?
    i tried my iphone and it comes up in the same place as my lap top?
    whos right /whos wrong?
    Can someone google home removals dublin,is www.getcracking.ie coming up on 1st page?
    thanks for any help or advive!:)


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    Kinetic^
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    Google remembers what you've clicked, he's right.


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    Kinetic^
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    There are a couple of things you need to fix on your website.

    You've no address.
    You're using a mobile number and no landline.

    I won't deal with anyone who doesn't have an address or landline number. It looks very unprofessional and anyone could spring up a site without either.


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    Jagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Jagle


    he is right, your on page 13 to me.
    but still work on seo and other options, that kinda money for the golden pages is madness


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    blue4ever
    Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    Naturally the salesman feels that it will still work, because he’s on a Commission based structure.
    I’d take the money and develop your own site at least it’s a direct investment in your business and not in theirs.
    You are in #183 for Removals Dublin and #219 for Home Removals Dublin.


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    Get Cracking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    thanks guys:)


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    HellFireClub
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    Kinetic^ wrote: »
    Don't do anything with goldenpages, it's a dead medium. Get in touch with an adwords specialist and get them to draw up a campaign for you. You'll get a hell of a lot of clicks for the same money you're going to spend with goldenpages.

    Very good advice here, Golden Pages have a well trained, highly pressurised team of sales folks who will give you all kind of assurances about how you will "clean up" if you use them, they'll even bring you out to lunch to get you to seal a deal with them!

    The majority of folks that will call you from their website will generally be people trying to sell you something such as more advertising and you can't make a cent off those folks.

    Stick it into a decent Google Adwords campaign is my advice OP and forget about the Golden Pages... Ask anyone who has previously advertised with them, I doubt you would find a single person who would give them repeat business, I certainly wouldn't based on my dealings with them...


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    MyAmber.net
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    HellFireClub wrote: »
    Ask anyone who has previously advertised with them, I doubt you would find a single person who would give them repeat business, I certainly wouldn't based on my dealings with them...


    Exactly right! I had a free Golden Pages listing and the only people who ever approached me via GP were some aggressive sellers trying to “improve my business”.
    I wouldn’t take it for free again, not mention about paying for that.
    (I guess I’ll be removed now from GP when they read this post :))


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    mikemac
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    As a customer I use GP, used it quite a few times

    If I need a tradesmen and I don't know any the golden pages is the first place I look

    Some crazy prices being quoted though, I never knew it was so expensive to advertise with them


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    IRE60
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    HellFireClub wrote: »
    Very good advice here, Golden Pages have a well trained, highly pressurised team of sales folks who will give you all kind of assurances about how you will "clean up" if you use them, they'll even bring you out to lunch to get you to seal a deal with them!

    The majority of folks that will call you from their website will generally be people trying to sell you something such as more advertising and you can't make a cent off those folks.

    Stick it into a decent Google Adwords campaign is my advice OP and forget about the Golden Pages... Ask anyone who has previously advertised with them, I doubt you would find a single person who would give them repeat business, I certainly wouldn't based on my dealings with them...

    If u ever get a directory rep giving u 'assurances' regarding responses, volumes etc - ask them to bang those figures down on an email to you - that normally stops all the bull.


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    MyPerfectCousin
    Registered Users Posts: 741 ✭✭✭MyPerfectCousin


    Kinetic^ wrote: »
    There are a couple of things you need to fix on your website.

    You've no address.
    You're using a mobile number and no landline.

    I won't deal with anyone who doesn't have an address or landline number. It looks very unprofessional and anyone could spring up a site without either.

    I'd have agreed a few years ago about the landline, and I'd still like to see an address.

    But whereas a few years ago I would have been reluctant to call a business on their mobile, nowadays I prefer it. At least for something involving a tradesman who doesn't sit in an office all day.


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    Kinetic^
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    MyPerfectCousin wrote: »
    But whereas a few years ago I would have been reluctant to call a business on their mobile, nowadays I prefer it. At least for something involving a tradesman who doesn't sit in an office all day.

    Maybe so but how about a removals company that has every single precious item belonging to you?


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    #21
    Get Cracking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    well ,would it be a good idea to put my full home adress there?:)


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    #22
    Get Cracking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Get Cracking


    as i have no cause yet to rent out an office.


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    sirreally
    Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭sirreally


    I would definitely get a landline number. The way you have prominently displayed your number is the right thing to do, in terms of design, but some people would be put off by only having a mobile number to call.

    If you don't want to get a new phone line or use your home phone number, you can get an 01 number from Skype for something like €50 a year (you will obviously have call charges on top of that if you forward calls to your mobile).

    I wouldn't be too concerned about having the full address displayed, but I would definitely choose to publish either the full address or nothing at all; "Dublin, Ireland" looks a bit unprofessional IMO.

    I would also change 'Our Clients' to 'Testimonials'. Even better, if you can find a way to fit a Testimonials box on your homepage, that would be great. To save on space, you could have scrolling/rotating quotes from clients.

    As for the original post, I wouldn't spend a single cent with Golden Pages - I never use their directory, never will use it, and I don't know anybody who does. Far better to spend your money on SEO and Google Adwords (tip: to keep costs down, advertise on search results only, not on their content network).


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    marzi
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭marzi


    i di an seo course several weeks ago,works a treat cost me e199 plus vat, and now our website comes up in the top three organic listings almost every time .
    tell ya what though, we just had a row with GP two minutes ago, thats why i'm reading your posts. the little feicer promised us a micro site along side our gp listings, and charged us nearly 5k. now that he has been paid he's aggressivly reluctant to give us the site as promised.

    i will name the little twit if he doesnt buck up.


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    blue4ever
    Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    Couple of things about the microsite:
    1) is that in writing anywhere - like on your copy of the order. Really it's no good of its verbal, unless there were three of you present.
    2) the money you paid, if its added up, would it include the price of a microsite
    3) When did you sign the order - there is a cooling off point
    4) Believe me, i worked in the directory business - keep calm (hard I know) they are not always right and you do have a load of avenues to explore - honest.


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    mazimillion
    Registered Users Posts: 24 ✭mazimillion


    Hey Everyone,

    Whatswhat.ie is Irelands No1 Online Business Directory. It has over 800 Catagories and is bringing quite alot of them to Page 1 in Google. Its is well worth taking a look it depending on what Catagory you fall into.

    Mazi


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    blue4ever
    Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    C


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    DoMyBooks
    Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭DoMyBooks


    marzi wrote: »
    i di an seo course several weeks ago,works a treat cost me e199 plus vat, and now our website comes up in the top three organic listings almost every time .
    tell ya what though, we just had a row with GP two minutes ago, thats why i'm reading your posts. the little feicer promised us a micro site along side our gp listings, and charged us nearly 5k. now that he has been paid he's aggressivly reluctant to give us the site as promised.

    i will name the little twit if he doesnt buck up.

    You could try the small claims court if you are unhappy. They now cover business disputes up to €2K. (I know your total invoice is €5K but I'm guessing the whole invoice isn't under dispute)

    http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Ahern%20extends%20Small%20Claims%20Procedure%20to%20cover%20business%20claims


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    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    NPL28 wrote: »
    Hi There,
    I have noticed quite of lot online directories are available now. One which I have used a lot is www.needit.ie. I believe they are Irish owned and provide a very good free option for businesses to list themselves. The detail in the business listing ads is very good and they also provide links to business websites. Worth a shot if you want a good quality ad for your business.

    If I was a cynical person, I might think that was a blatant plug! :rolleyes:


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    shegarty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭shegarty


    check out the Tallaght directory seems to work for me!


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    al22
    Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭al22


    Get Cracking wrote: »
    The website has beem maxed out with seo activity,but seen as we just published it last wendsday it is well back on the listings,
    I would love to pump it somewhere else ,but when the phone is not ringing its hard not to.


    Ads on the GP website are difficult to navigate and when I try to find my competitors in my business only -
    spent a lot of time but think it is a wasted time. Difficult to use. Modern time + ancient type ads.

    Attention about the phone numbers -
    supposed EU decided that from the middle of 2014 all calls to a BUSINESS PHONE NUMBERS must be paid by businesses - not by customers who will call you.


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