Republic of Ireland v Northern Ireland: KO 7.45pm

murpho999

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

I'd hardly say he is obsessed with that record. No harm in setting himself targets and that is an obvious one to aim for.

Sorry but I don't see how an English record is something for an Irish player to aim for?

So what record does he set ? Top goal scorer in Ireland & Britain, which leads to rows over British Isles etc.

However if he gets to 53 goals he'd move into world's top 10 of International Goalscorers, now that for me would be something more to aim for.

Wiki Link of World's Top International Goalscorers

Wooden Jesus

Fair play to Cox but he scored against a really poor NI side. Maybe needs another look at before he gets thrown straight in to the starting XI in a competitive game

Ebbs

Pauleta wrote: »

Jaysis. You do wonder if he knows we are a sovereign country and not still under British rule :pac:

After tonight they can keep their 6 counties too tbh.

bonerm

Was just wondering why Trap hasn't the guts to let the team play like that in real games. We might have still lost to Russia but I'd say we'd have won the game against Slovakia and all the other ones so far.

Mr. Guappa

murpho999 wrote: »

Sorry but I don't see how an English record is something for an Irish player to aim for?

So what record does he set ? Top goal scorer in Ireland & Britain, which leads to rows over British Isles etc.

However if he gets to 53 goals he'd move into world's top 10 of International Goalscorers, now that for me would be something more to aim for.

Wiki Link of World's Top International Goalscorers

Bobby Charlton's record of 49 goals is a well known and longstanding record and it would be a nice landmark for Keane to pass. Once he got the Irish record it was a good target to aim for. When he passes 49 maybe he'll look to passing Batistuta on 56.

Wooden Jesus

bonerm wrote: »

woosh.

After tonights performances y first four names on the teamsheet would be:

Best
Given
Long
Cox

Thats certainly a mouthful

Pauleta

murpho999 wrote: »

Sorry but I don't see how an English record is something for an Irish player to aim for?

So what record does he set ? Top goal scorer in Ireland & Britain, which leads to rows over British Isles etc.

However if he gets to 53 goals he'd move into world's top 10 of International Goalscorers, now that for me would be something more to aim for.

Wiki Link of World's Top International Goalscorers

He overtook the great Pauleta tonight


He's played more games though

population

5 - 0 is tasty enough even against an admitedly shambolic opposistion. Any site to see the goals???

The_B_Man

murpho999 wrote: »

However if he gets to 53 goals he'd move into world's top 10 of International Goalscorers, now that for me would be something more to aim for.

Wiki Link of World's Top International Goalscorers

I think Robbies also the only currently playing player there, counting the players above him only.

However, he's gonna get seriously overtaken, looking at the players below him!!

elefant

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Whoo!

4 more please. Robbie to score a goal and shut you lot up as well.

Hope you put some money on that!

murpho999

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Bobby Charlton's record of 49 goals is a well known and longstanding record and it would be a nice landmark for Keane to pass. Once he got the Irish record it was a good target to aim for. When he passes 49 maybe he'll look to passing Batistuta on 56.

Why? If he surpasses it Bobby Charlton will still be England's top scorer. Robbie is not English or British and the record holds no relevance here (Please don't start the British Isle thing!)

I don't see why he's bothered with it, aiming for World's top 10 I can understand.

Also, it's all a load of balls anyway as it's the games per goal that counts. Both now have 106 caps but difference is that Charlton was a midfielder.

bonerm

murpho999 wrote: »

Sorry but I don't see how an English record is something for an Irish player to aim for?

So what record does he set ? Top goal scorer in Ireland & Britain, which leads to rows over British Isles etc.

However if he gets to 53 goals he'd move into world's top 10 of International Goalscorers, now that for me would be something more to aim for.

Wiki Link of World's Top International Goalscorers

That's the top scorer by country. It's not the top 10 scorers (eg Ronaldo and Klose - who are well ahead of Keane - are not mentioned there).

  1.Ali Daei              [Iran]              109*(149)  (1993-2006) [15]
  2.Ferenc Puskás         [Hungary/Spain]      84 ( 89)  (1945-1956)  [1]
  3."Pelé"                [Brazil]             77 ( 92)  (1957-1971)  [9]
  4.Bashar Abdullah       [Kuwait]             75*(134)  (1996-2007)
    Sándor Kocsis         [Hungary]            75 ( 68)  (1948-1956)
  -.Vivian John Woodward  [England/England Am] 73 ( 53)  (1903-1914)  [2]
  6.Hossam Hassan         [Egypt]              69 (169)  (1985-2006)
    Stern John            [Trinidad/Tobago]    69*(109)  (1995-2009)
  8.Gerd Müller           [West Germany]       68 ( 62)  (1966-1974)
  9.Majed Abdullah        [Saudi Arabia]       67 (139)  (1978-1994)  [3]
 10.Kiatisuk Senamuang    [Thailand]           65*(130)  (1993-2007)
 11.Jassem Al-Houwaidi    [Kuwait]             63*( 74)  (1992-2002)
 12.Ronaldo               [Brazil]             62*( 97)  (1994-2006)
 13.Miroslav Klose        [Germany]            61*(108)  (2001-2011)
    Hussain Saeed Mohammed [Iraq]              61 (126)  (1977-1990)
 14.Imre Schlosser        [Hungary]            59 ( 68)  (1906-1927)
 16.Gabriel Batistuta     [Argentina]          56 ( 78)  (1991-2002)    
    Carlos Alberto Pavón  [Honduras]           56*(100)  (1993-2010)   
 18.Bum-Kun Cha           [South Korea]        55 (121)  (1972-1986)
    Kunishige Kamamoto    [Japan]              55 ( 61)  (1964-1977)  [8]
    Jan Koller            [Czech Republic]     55*( 91)  (1999-2009)
    Kazuyoshi Miura       [Japan]              55 ( 89)  (1990-2000)
    Romário               [Brazil]             55 ( 70)  (1987-2005) 
 23.Joachim Streich       [East Germany]       53 ( 98)  (1969-1984)
    Adnan Kh. Al-Talyani  [UAE]                53 (164)  (1984-1997)
 25.Fandi Ahmad           [Singapore]          52 (101)  (1979-1997)        
    Poul "Tist" Nielsen   [Denmark]            52 ( 38)  (1910-1925)
    Jon Dahl Tomasson     [Denmark]            52*(112)  (1997-2010)
    Zico                  [Brazil]             52 ( 72)  (1976-1986)
 29.Thierry Henry         [France]             51*(123)  (1997-2010)
    Hakan Sükür           [Turkey]             51*(112)  (1992-2007)
    Lájos Tichy           [Hungary]            51 ( 72)  (1955-1971) [12]
 32.Karim Bagheri         [Iran]               50*( 87)  (1993-2010)
    Samuel Eto'o Fils     [Cameroon]           50*(103)  (1997-2011)
    Seon-Hong Hwang       [South Korea]        50 (103)  (1993-2002)
 35.Bobby Charlton        [England]            49 (106)  (1958-1970)  [9]
    Sven Rydell           [Sweden]             49 ( 43)  (1923-1932)
 37.Dimitar Berbatov      [Bulgaria]           48*( 79)  (1999-2010)
    Hristo Bonev          [Bulgaria]           48 ( 96)  (1967-1979) [14]
    Gary Lineker          [England]            48 ( 80)  (1984-1991)
 40.Didier Drogba         [Ivory Coast]        47*( 73)  (2002-2011)
    Rolando Fonseca       [Costa Rica]         47*(113)  (1992-2011)
    Jürgen Klinsmann      [(West) Germany]     47 (108)  (1987-1998)
    Pauleta               [Portugal]           47*( 88)  (1997-2006)
    Rudi Völler           [(West) Germany]     47 ( 90)  (1982-1994)
 45.Jared Borgetti        [Mexico]             46*( 89)  (1997-2008)
    Robbie Keane          [Ireland]            46*(105)  (1998-2011)
    Davor Suker           [Croatia/Yugoslavia] 46 ( 71)  (1990-2002)  [4]
    David Villa           [Spain]              46*( 72)  (2005-2011)

http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/century.html

Kingdom Bhoy

TheRedDevil10 wrote: »

Attendance announced: 12, 083!!! :pac:

Why was it so small. Were the prices not reasonable ?

dartbhoy

Good to see Ireland scoring 5 goals tonight but that Northern Ireland team was an embarrassment! It'll be a totally different ball game out in Macedonia against higher quality opposition.

Mr. Guappa

murpho999 wrote: »

Why? If he surpasses it Bobby Charlton will still be England's top scorer. Robbie is not English or British and the record holds no relevance here (Please don't start the British Isle thing!)

I don't see why he's bothered with it, aiming for World's top 10 I can understand.

Also, it's all a load of balls anyway as it's the games per goal that counts. Both now have 106 caps but difference is that Charlton was a midfielder.

Robbie would have been a kid when Lineker came close to matching Charlton's record, so he would be aware of that total. Having obliterated the Irish record Charlton's 49 is a fine personal target to set himself.

emo72

anyone know whats going on with mccarthy? heard on newstalk that he may not play under trapp again!

Mr. Guappa

On the game itself:

It was a fine run-out to bring some confidence into the camp. Keane and Given got some much needed game time under their belts which is no harm.

We have some promising youngsters emerging which is great to see and the squad has some good depth. With the likes of Long, Cox, McGeady, McCarthy, Coleman, Clark, Foley in the mix things look reasonably bright for the future. If a Roy Keane type midfield leader emerged then we would have a very bright future.

Hoki

Anyone know what Darragh Maloney meant when he said the match may have been overshadowed by events off the pitch ?

Dempsey

Hoki wrote: »

Anyone know what Darragh Maloney meant when he said the match may have been overshadowed by events off the pitch ?

Stokes pulling out citing that he was tired and McCarthy/Wigan dragging their feet explaining that McCarthy picked up an injury

Hoki

I picked it up wrong so , i thought there may have been trouble after the game

Brain Stroking

Sorry i have an unrelated question: in the Aviva is the West Stand the side the tv cameras are on?

emo72

Hoki wrote: »

I picked it up wrong so , i thought there may have been trouble after the game

its the mccarthy issue. we seem to have a few problems with epl clubs and their direct dial phone numbers. oh and we seem to get mixed up or confused when they do call us.

briany

NI C were certainly shambolic tonight against ROI C. 5 nil is some tonking and we very rarely see the like. I was expecting a tight one but it ended up being a rout. How wrong I was.

It's nice every once in a while for the plucky team from up north to be reminded not to get too many lofty ideas into their heads.

I think that it'll be good for confidence heading into the Scottish game as well as the all important Macedonia fixture. Don't believe a win has ever been achieved over there in Skopje but hoping that'll change. A win in Yerevan and a win in Skopje could prove absolutely invaluable.

Hoki

emo72 wrote: »

its the mccarthy issue. we seem to have a few problems with epl clubs and their direct dial phone numbers. oh and we seem to get mixed up or confused when they do call us.

Was listening to Off the Ball earlier & they were talking about it alright , supposedly The FAI were complaining that they havent been contacted by certain individuals. Surely they have to take the initiative on this & be in constant contact with the players , after all im sure its them who organise everything including flights etc no?

parker kent

Hoki wrote: »

Was listening to Off the Ball earlier & they were talking about it alright , supposedly The FAI were complaining that they havent been contacted by certain individuals. Surely they have to take the initiative on this & be in constant contact with the players , after all im sure its them who organise everything including flights etc no?

They have said they called numerous times.

Fursttimer

Brain Stroking wrote: »

in the Aviva is the West Stand the side the tv cameras are on?

Yes

Pauleta

Michael O'Neill looks sober on RTE. Fair play to him.

Mr.Crinklewood

parker kent wrote: »

They have said they called numerous times.

Aye, but they forgot the 0044 prefix. Got a Chippy in Trim, great deal in Onion Rings.

bobbysands81

Pauleta wrote: »

I say the president was pissed off about that after all that she did last week. Some people are just clowns.

God Save the Queen isn't even their anthem, why was it even played?

Renn

bobbysands81 wrote: »

God Save the Queen isn't even their anthem, why was it even played?

What else are they going to play?

bobbysands81

Renn wrote: »

What else are they going to play?

A very valid question considering they're haemorraging players to the Republic at the mo.

Maybe something a bit more inclusive?

Ebbs

Pauleta wrote: »

Michael O'Neill looks sober on RTE. Fair play to him.

Couldnt even keep the obession out of an National side thread

bobbysands81 wrote: »

God Save the Queen isn't even their anthem, why was it even played?

Because it is their national anthem?

It's played at every NI state event and all sports to my knowledge.

Edit: Googled it, they play LondonDerry Air at the CommonWealth games. The tune to Dannyboy.

bonerm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

A very valid question considering they're haemorraging players to the Republic at the mo.

Maybe something a bit more inclusive?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIAnkrPgTvY

parker kent

Ebbs wrote: »

Because it is their national anthem?

It's played at every NI state event and all sports to my knowledge.

Yes and the rugby team used to use it when they played matches in Belfast.

bobbysands81

Ebbs wrote: »

Because it is their national anthem?

It's not their national anthem.

Not wishing to drag politics into this but GSTQ ain't their national anthem.

bonerm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

It's not their national anthem.

Not wishing to drag politics into this but GSTQ ain't their national anthem.

Yes it is. It's the anthem of the UK of which Nothern Ireland is a part.

pickarooney

Ali Daei has only scored 3 more goals at club level than at international level.

Ebbs

bobbysands81 wrote: »

It's not their national anthem.

Not wishing to drag politics into this but GSTQ ain't their national anthem.

No need for politics really.

Officially it is used as the national anthem for the State of Northern Ireland.

"God Save the Queen" (alternatively "God Save the King") is an anthem used in a number of Commonwealth realms and British Crown Dependencies. The words of the song, like its title, are adapted to the gender of the current monarch, with "King" replacing "Queen", "he" replacing "she", and so forth, when a king reigns. It is the de facto national anthem of the United Kingdom and some of its territories;

They can come up or change it any time they want, sure you can argue about the politics of it but they arnt using it to wind up Irish fans.

bobbysands81

bonerm wrote: »

Yes it is. It's the anthem of the UK of which Nothern Ireland is a part.

Northern Ireland has no official national anthem.

The UK does, GSTQ is the official anthem of the UK, but not of the individual strands which make up the UK.

Is the National Anthem of Scotland GSTQ?
Is the National Anthem of Wales GSTQ?

The answer to both questions in No.

Nor is GSTQ the official anthem of England though is used as such at times.

bobbysands81

Ebbs wrote: »

They can come up or change it any time they want, sure you can argue about the politics of it but they arnt using it to wind up Irish fans.

For the record I'm not trying to state they are.

My only point is that it is not the official national anthem of Northern Ireland.

parker kent

bobbysands81 wrote: »

For the record I'm not trying to state they are.

My only point is that it is not the official national anthem of Northern Ireland.

It is effectively their national anthem. It is the only one they have and the only one that is used on such occasions. It is such a nit-picking topic to even bring this up.

bobbysands81

parker kent wrote: »

It is effectively their national anthem. It is the only one they have and the only one that is used on such occasions. It is such a nit-picking topic to even bring this up.

So you're agreeing that it's not officially their national anthem then?

You're the one arguing with me for no reason!

Renn

bobbysands81 wrote: »

It's not their national anthem.

Not wishing to drag politics into this but GSTQ ain't their national anthem.

A poster going by the name of bobbysands not wishing to bring politics into this?

citytillidie

N.Ireland does not have a national anthem and so use GSTQ for sporting events.

Danny Boy is used for Commonwealth Games and has also been used by other sports stars who dont want to cause offence such as Barry McGuigan

They also use the Union flag as the state flag as it does not have an official flag

But anyways back to the game, it was good to see them play football but the NI team was very inexperienced and I would take nothing from it.

citytillidie

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Northern Ireland has no official national anthem.

The UK does, GSTQ is the official anthem of the UK, but not of the individual strands which make up the UK.

Is the National Anthem of Scotland GSTQ?
Is the National Anthem of Wales GSTQ?

The answer to both questions in No.

Nor is GSTQ the official anthem of England though is used as such at times.

Scotland does not have an official Anthem, default anthem is GSTQ however Scotland have chosen to use Flower of Scotland

Wales have be using Land of Our Fathers since the 19th century but also use GSTQ and England have a number of songs but the main ones being GSTQ and Jerusalem which is sung before the FA Cup Final

Mushy

Who got MOTM? I think Cox deserved it, his workrate was brilliant. Keanes first go was a lovely finish.

Mr. Guappa

Mushy wrote: »

Who got MOTM? I think Cox deserved it, his workrate was brilliant. Keanes first go was a lovely finish.

Keane got the Sky MOTM.

Coillte_Bhoy

Mushy wrote: »

Who got MOTM? I think Cox deserved it, his workrate was brilliant. Keanes first go was a lovely finish.

Robbie got it. Agree with you on Cox, i was impressed.

parker kent

bobbysands81 wrote: »

So you're agreeing that it's not officially their national anthem then?

You're the one arguing with me for no reason!

Not really "no reason". You brought up this non-topic. I was pointing out the pointlessness of the topic. I don't care what they play or don't play. I don't care if it is or is not their national anthem. This is the soccer forum, lets talk about soccer.

Mushy

Thought as much Keane would get it. Ah sure, a good win anyway.