RTE Two HD on Sky [Merged]

icdg

Merged a couple of threads and closed some others.

This topic is now subject to the same rules as the TV licence thread in Broadcasting. There is to be only ONE thread on RTÉ Two HD in the Satellte forum and it is this one. It is stickied and at the very top of the forum for a reason. Any other threads started or old threads dragged up will be CLOSED. Repeated violation will result in bans

Those of you who have be following this issue know that on UPC, RTÉ Two HD is available to those SD customers who are lucky enough to have HD boxes (not a choice, up to UPC whether you get one or not). Indeed it is the only HD channel available to UPC SD customers. It would be surprising if the same arrangement was not made available to Sky customers with HD boxes and don't take the HD pack also.

ShaneOC

Almost every new channel launch or EPG placement update happens on a Tuesday. Looks like it's going to be the same for RTÉ TWO HD.

dublinbusdude

RTE2 is still in SD at 8:27pm

dubmick

only RTE could mess this up

saor2view

dublinbusdude wrote: »

RTE2 is still in SD at 8:27pm

Rte2HD is available on 28.2 10.774 H 5/6
Ref lyngsat.com .other channels sly box
nds soft encrypt.

adox

icdg wrote: »

Those of you who have be following this issue know that on UPC, RTÉ Two HD is available to those SD customers who are lucky enough to have HD boxes (not a choice, up to UPC whether you get one or not). Indeed it is the only HD channel available to UPC SD customers. It would be surprising if the same arrangement was not made available to Sky customers with HD boxes and don't take the HD pack also.

But it seems as clear as day from the RTE press release that will be available oly as part of the HD sub on Sky.

energy1942

I have just spoken to sky's office in cork a few minutes ago & they have told me that rte had a technical glitch with the launch & that it is now hoped to launch on wednesday.

I phoned rte but was told it was too late to speak to anyone in information, (obviously past there bedtime).

galtee boy

energy1942 wrote: »

I have just spoken to sky's office in cork a few minutes ago & they have told me that rte had a technical glitch with the launch & that it is now hoped to launch on wednesday.

I phoned rte but was told it was too late to speak to anyone in information, (obviously past there bedtime).

Could be that RTE will have to start highlighting the programmes going out in HD, so that Sky can highlight them on their EPG. RTE didn't bother their backsides highlighting them on the Saorview EPG all along. It looks like someone was too quick off the mark with that press release from RTE .

Zhane

dubmick wrote: »

only RTE could mess this up

Take note of two posts above you.

dubmick

Zhane wrote: »

Take note of two posts above you.

they announced that it was going to happen today

Utopia Parkway

So I'm still not totally clear on this. Will RTE 2 HD only be available on Sky with a subscription to Sky's HD package? Or will you receive it on the basic Sky package if you have the Sky HD box much like BBC HD?

p.oconnor

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

So I'm still not totally clear on this. Will RTE 2 HD only be available on Sky with a subscription to Sky's HD package? Or will you receive it on the basic Sky package if you have the Sky HD box much like BBC HD?

.... million dollar question my friend... exactly what we are waiting to see ..

zg3409

No one knows for sure. First the test was available to everyone with an SD or HD subscription, later the test was for HD users only. The tests are continuing.

The press release seems to say you have to have a HD subscription. Even if it does launch as HD package only, legal problems and other pressures may change the final outcome. Wait and see 21:40 for those who don't know what time it is!

harryhoudinii

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

So I'm still not totally clear on this. Will RTE 2 HD only be available on Sky with a subscription to Sky's HD package? Or will you receive it on the basic Sky package if you have the Sky HD box much like BBC HD?

It's available on other channels as I'm watching it now;-)

adox

harryhoudinii wrote: »

It's available on other channels as I'm watching it now;-)

Scrambled signal on my Sky HD box without the HD sub.

harryhoudinii

p.oconnor wrote: »

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

So I'm still not totally clear on this. Will RTE 2 HD only be available on Sky with a subscription to Sky's HD package? Or will you receive it on the basic Sky package if you have the Sky HD box much like BBC HD?

.... million dollar question my friend... exactly what we are waiting to see ..

Go to other channels and put in 10.774. H22 5/6 and you'll have rte2 hd even if u don't subscribe to hd package from sky

p.oconnor

harryhoudinii wrote: »

Go to other channels and put in 10.774. H22 5/6 and you'll have rte2 hd even if u don't subscribe to hd package from sky

No its scrambled for us without a HD subscription ..

harryhoudinii

p.oconnor wrote: »

harryhoudinii wrote: »

Go to other channels and put in 10.774. H22 5/6 and you'll have rte2 hd even if u don't subscribe to hd package from sky

No its scrambled for us without a HD subscription ..

Well I'm a hd subscriber and I stored it in other channels about 30mins ago but now when I type in the same frequency and so on its now gone and replaced by BBC channels, just as well I got it earlier, it was called channel 1270, hope u all get some luck

adox

harryhoudinii wrote: »

Well I'm a hd subscriber and I stored it in other channels about 30mins ago but now when I type in the same frequency and so on its now gone and replaced by BBC channels, just as well I got it earlier, it was called channel 1270, hope u all get some luck

It's still there but @ 10733. As said it is scrambled on HD boxes without a HD sub. You have a HD sub yourself so how could you claim it was available without the sub in your OP?

harryhoudinii

harryhoudinii wrote: »

p.oconnor wrote: »

harryhoudinii wrote: »

Go to other channels and put in 10.774. H22 5/6 and you'll have rte2 hd even if u don't subscribe to hd package from sky

No its scrambled for us without a HD subscription ..

Well I'm a hd subscriber and I stored it in other channels about 30mins ago but now when I type in the same frequency and so on its now gone and replaced by BBC channels, just as well I got it earlier, it was called channel 1270, hope u all get some luck

10.774 was wrong sry it's 10.744

Aquos76

Some very strange audio issues going on with rte twoHD I can hear all the background noises, however can't hear any vocals at all. Anyone else getting the same?

copacetic

Aquos76 wrote: »

Some very strange audio issues going on with rte twoHD I can hear all the background noises, however can't hear any vocals at all. Anyone else getting the same?

Perfect for me at the moment and for last 20 mins, are you using a sky hd box?

Aquos76

Aquos76 wrote: »

Some very strange audio issues going on with rte twoHD I can hear all the background noises, however can't hear any vocals at all. Anyone else getting the same?

That has been an on and off occurance over the last few days. It is part of the test one may surmise

Aquos76

Yeah, it's intermittent ok, it's perfect again.

copacetic

warlikedave wrote: »

That has been an on and off occurance over the last few days. It is part of the test one may surmise

It happened for me the first couple of days on some programmes and then has been fine ever since. It was consistent during the programmes but not the ads. No issues at all tonight.

They are probably testing the background sound and comparing it the the main audio of the people speaking....its not gonna make too much of a difference considering that the sky+hd box doesnt transfer digital 5.1 surround sound via hdmi as far as i remember. Shame really

ShaneOC

warlikedave wrote: »

They are probably testing the background sound and comparing it the the main audio of the people speaking....its not gonna make too much of a difference considering that the sky+hd box doesnt transfer digital 5.1 surround sound via hdmi as far as i remember. Shame really

5.1 Surround sound is available via an optical cable from Sky+HD (and regular Sky+).

saor2view

ShaneOC wrote: »

warlikedave wrote: »

They are probably testing the background sound and comparing it the the main audio of the people speaking....its not gonna make too much of a difference considering that the sky+hd box doesnt transfer digital 5.1 surround sound via hdmi as far as i remember. Shame really

5.1 Surround sound is available via an optical cable from Sky+HD (and regular Sky+).

Has anybody heard the rumor of sky doing a free to air installation package like the do
in UK ~Full installation sky hd box fta card for rte tv3 tng with all uk fta channels £179.00which would be aprox €200 here.Thanks!!

watty

fta card

oxymoron. No such thing inherently.

Sky don't do Free to Air ANYWHERE. They do at a price in UK install a pointless Psuedo FTV package which is a hook to get a viewer to upgrade to a subscription.

Now that BBC1, main ITV, C4 and C5 are all Free To Air, there is no "real" FTV card in UK anymore. It's just a Sky marketing gimmick.

Some people in Ireland threatening to cancel are offered a reduced package for about €15. Since virtually everything in it is Free on Saorview/Saorsat plus Freesat/FTA, it's a waste of €180 a year!

For Free To Air UK TV in UK or Sky it's a better deal to buy a "Freesat HD" box and installation (or DIY) especially if you want free recording. You can get a better dish. The Sky dish is a minimum size and built down to a price. A Sky box for FTA or FTV might have been great value 5 years ago and 10 years ago a Sub and cancelling after a year was best value.

Now Sky is a Crippled box unless used for Pay TV. It's no use for non-Sky platform (such as Saorsat or mainland Europe TV). A good "Freesat HD" box can have as much or more ease of use and control TV too.

BTW
Almost no Free channels use real 5.1. I've checked also many German channels and even when flagged "5.1" it was just stereo. I suspect simply using AAC codec to either improve quality or reduce bitrate and since this is used for 5.1 and MP2 is usually used for Mono/Stereo the "flag" is really just saying AAC in use, not 5.1

energy1942

just spoke on the phone to sky & was told that due to technical difficulties the launch of rte2hd will probably be delayed for a further few days, I was also told that it will only be made available to subscribers of the skyhd pack.
For those who pay a subscription without the skyhd pack they will continue to recieve rte2 in sd on ch 102,
further to that subscribers of the skyhd pack will also have the option of watching rte2 in sd on ch292.

keith_d99

Surely if true it's a bad move by RTE

For sport alone ... if I don't have the HD pack, I'll be watching sport if available on the free HD stations (namely BBC and ITV for the Euros) - meaning lower viewing figures for RTE.

formerly scottish paddy

Anyone know if RTÉ 2HD will be available in N.Ireland? If so on channel 162?

watty

Time for non-HD sky subscribers to write to RTE, BAI and Sky (all three). On paper. Not emails.

Sky are blatantly exploiting their customers.

Surely if true it's a bad move by RTE

It's not actually RTE's decision how Sky prices.

Razor Russ

watty wrote: »

Time for non-HD sky subscribers to write to RTE, BAI and Sky (all three). On paper. Not emails.

Sky are blatantly exploiting their customers.


It's not actually RTE's decision how Sky prices.

Cant understand how sky are exploiting people, they provide a service which we pay for. There are different tiers of service, if you want HD channels you pay for them. Personally i dont mind paying €15 per Household for 55 hd channels

galtee boy

Don't get me wrong, I agree that RTE2 HD should be available without the HD sub, but ye might as well write to Santa also, because while Sky are paying for carraige, encryption, epg listing etc etc and RTE are happy for the free ride, Sky can and will do what they like, with a channel that they are giving a free ride to, on their own platform.

Razor Russ

galtee boy wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I agree that RTE2 HD should be available without the HD sub, but ye might as well write to Santa also, because while Sky are paying for carraige, encryption, epg listing etc etc and RTE are happy for the free ride, Sky can and will do what they like, with a channel that they are giving a free ride to, on their own platform.

that is the unfortunate thing, it is sky's platform. and if i am not mistaken RTE is on the platform at sky's request i.e. to help increase sky subscriber numbers. RTE have stated previously that they are on the sky platform at no cost to themselves. i imagine the same applies to RTE HD channels (sky bearing the complete cost)

saor2view

Razor Russ wrote: »

galtee boy wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I agree that RTE2 HD should be available without the HD sub, but ye might as well write to Santa also, because while Sky are paying for carraige, encryption, epg listing etc etc and RTE are happy for the free ride, Sky can and will do what they like, with a channel that they are giving a free ride to, on their own platform.

that is the unfortunate thing, it is sky's platform. and if i am not mistaken RTE is on the platform at sky's request i.e. to help increase sky subscriber numbers. RTE have stated previously that they are on the sky platform at no cost to themselves. i imagine the same applies to RTE HD channels (sky bearing the complete cost)

Just let you know rte have bin payin sly for epg space and the contract is either due or already over.so my have come to arrangement with sly for coverage on their platform.meaning rte are on all tv / radio platrorms in Ireland /Uk / Europe .Very easy for them and sly issue card and box and install one price.Check out Sky.com under Freesat installations

galtee boy

saor2view wrote: »

Just let you know rte have bin payin sly for epg space and the contract is either due or already over.so my have come to arrangement with sly for coverage on their platform.meaning rte are on all tv / radio platrorms in Ireland /Uk / Europe .Very easy for them and sly issue card and box and install one price.Check out Sky.com under Freesat installations

Its news to me that RTE have been paying Sky for anything, are you sure ? and that Sky/Freesat system you mention is for UK only, not ROI.

saor2view

galtee boy wrote: »

saor2view wrote: »

Just let you know rte have bin payin sly for epg space and the contract is either due or already over.so my have come to arrangement with sly for coverage on their platform.meaning rte are on all tv / radio platrorms in Ireland /Uk / Europe .Very easy for them and sly issue card and box and install one price.Check out Sky.com under Freesat installations

Its news to me that RTE have been paying Sky for anything, are you sure ? and that Sky/Freesat system you mention is for UK only, not ROI.

Rte have bin paying for epg slot on sly basic at a considerable reduction for past few years its up for renewal or is already up now that rte is on saorview/saorsat they dont need sly so if sly looked after them with card dish installation sly have there goot back in the door and rte have full platforms covered Ireland/Uk /Europe.

JDxtra

saor2view wrote: »

Just let you know rte have bin payin sly for epg space and the contract is either due or already over.so my have come to arrangement with sly for coverage on their platform.meaning rte are on all tv / radio platrorms in Ireland /Uk / Europe .Very easy for them and sly issue card and box and install one price.Check out Sky.com under Freesat installations

They are called Sky.

p.oconnor

watty wrote: »

Time for non-HD sky subscribers to write to RTE, BAI and Sky (all three). On paper. Not emails.

Sky are blatantly exploiting their customers.


It's not actually RTE's decision how Sky prices.

Somehow i would recon it would be as effective as pissing against the wind... cant believe that the €32 a month i pay will not give me access to a channel i pay a licence fee for, some of us just cannot afford the extra €15 at this time..

Razor Russ

p.oconnor wrote: »

Somehow i would recon it would be as effective as pissing against the wind... cant believe that the €32 a month i pay will not give me access to a channel i pay a licence fee for, some of us just cannot afford the extra €15 at this time..

you are right about having to pay the extra 15€, i would imagine in time sky will wave that fee like they did with the sky+ fee. That wont happen for some time yet though until HD becomes more main stream. The point is though they are not stopping you accessing a channel you pay for you can still receive and watch RTE 2 just not in HD

Mugser

So when is this being turned on?

Razor Russ

Mugser wrote: »

So when is this being turned on?

The best guess this forum has come up with is Wednesday at the earliest

galtee boy

Razor Russ wrote: »

The best guess this forum has come up with is Wednesday at the earliest

Technical difficulties, which is on RTE's side I think. My hunch is that its the EPG data that's causing problems. Sky will need to highlight in "orange" on their EPG, what programmes are actually in HD on RTE2, I presume RTE have to provide this information and currently they are not even doing this on their own EPG on Saorview. "Technical problems" to an organisation like Sky, with probably the best tech support in Europe behind them, would not be allowed to delay a channel launch, unless the "technical problems" are outside their control.

campo

saor2view wrote: »

Rte have bin paying for epg slot on sly basic at a considerable reduction for past few years its up for renewal or is already up now that rte is on saorview/saorsat they dont need sly so if sly looked after them with card dish installation sly have there goot back in the door and rte have full platforms covered Ireland/Uk /Europe.

Have bin???goot back?? sorry dont believe people who does not use proper grammer

energy1942

I have just noticed The label has been corrected.
This suggests to me that the official launch may be imminent,

JDxtra

Is it "RTE Two HD" or "RTE TWO HD"?

It has been a minor gripe of mine that the labels for the RTE stations are "RTE One" and "RTE TWO". Where is the consistency people?

watty

p.oconnor wrote: »

.. cant believe that the €32 a month i pay will not give me access to a channel i pay a licence fee for, some of us just cannot afford the extra €15 at this time..

People with a suitable TV aerial and suitable TV have had this channel "free" ages

You pay a licence fee just to have a TV receiving device in the house, even it you get no channels.

Sky are primarily a UK service with Irish channels and sales tacked on. They won't care unless there is threat of cancellations and official complaints.

I agree it's despicable if they insist it's only in the HD pack as it's not a PayTV channel.

thebrush

It's RTE TWO HD i'm afraid!!:D

Cheers.