The GPA

ShamoBuc

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

yeah, really must! I thought you were gone!! :P

it's like watching a bad movie.... you kinda keep watching...hoping it will get better......but it never does;)

rebel girl 15

ShamoBuc wrote: »

FFS... with all due respect... slow the fúck down with your typing or proof read or get a dictionary;)

or type out your reply in Microsoft word with spell check on then paste reply, much easier

Now, I'm definitely gone, I've to be up at 6am!

ShamoBuc wrote: »

it's like watching a bad movie.... you kinda keep watching...hoping it will get better......but it never does;)

Nah, time to press stop on that movie, now before it gets worse!

sendit

ShamoBuc wrote: »

it's like watching a bad movie.... you kinda keep watching...hoping it will get better......but it never does;)

Bit like Cork going on strike eh?:rolleyes:

ShamoBuc

sendit wrote: »

Bit like Cork going on strike eh?:rolleyes:

on the contrary.... I know Cork will get better;)

sendit

ShamoBuc wrote: »

on the contrary.... I know Cork will get better;)

We'll shall have to wait and see wont we:p

ShamoBuc

sendit wrote: »

We'll shall have to wait and see wont we:p

if you say so...


the GPA eh..... what's all that about.....

longpuck

Im part of the GPA myself. I play for one of the top teams (only a sub i might add). And i have to say i haven't got much since i joined (at the start of the year). This is my first year on the panel and are a few others of course aswell, but anyway the first night i went training i was told all aout the GPA what you get etc and was told to say if i wanted to join or not the next night, i didn't take a whole pile of notice of what i was being told i was more worried about giving a good account of myself in training as you would.

Anyway next night i was told if i desided if i wanted to join or not and i said i didn't really think about and had forgot, they were a little p***** off that i didn't deside yet and said i would the next night. I went home a looked at the stuff about it and all that and it didn't really seem to be for me so the next night i went back and said i didn't want to join and was asked why and i said it didn't seem like it was for me, i was then given another talk about it same as the first time now im not saying i was forced to join or anything but i did feel a little pressured into it by older players on the team.

Since i joined i will admit i haven't realy asked for anything off them but that's realy because i dont know what to ask for. Some of the other younger lads have asked for stuff (not sure what didn't ask) and hae said there still waiting to hear from them even though they asked months ago.

Now an then someone from the GPA would come to talk about this and that but they always seem more interested in the older bigger name guys and dont take a whole pile of notice of others.

Some of the other new guys who came along at the start of the year who joined too seem to have changed a little by things there told by the GPA and they do seem to always desort to over the top things if they dont get there way. One guy said he wouldn't come back because he wasn't given the right gear, something that realy should make no difference.

Anyway thats my say on the matter im not saying the GPA is a bad thing but its not for everyone and if your not one of them you do get treated different to others.

longpuck

Also the Cork people say that Gerald McCarthy's training was outdated etc yet the only thing you have to back up that it was outdated is he did alot of overhead pulling, seems something very small to go on strike over. Im sure theres alot of player (myself included) who dont understand why a manger does things in training but you dont go on strike and clame its outdated

A.Hitler

Yer, I think they are how do say a political party set up by a former dictator they are state funded and run by local bully boys they play a sport nine it how you say a game that is only played in this country so they can never play against other nations and therefore THEY CAN NEVER BE DEFEATED. The youth have to speak ancient words in the game that they the team mates and the coach god ehemel I mean the banister sorry my Great British not that good thus not understand perhaps they should give the youth nice shirts to march in around the GAA centres. They could smash the windows of none gambling, none drinking, none Irish speaking under classes

ShamoBuc

A.Hitler wrote: »

Yer, I think they are how do say a political party set up by a former dictator they are state funded and run by local bully boys they play a sport nine it how you say a game that is only played in this country so they can never play against other nations and therefore THEY CAN NEVER BE DEFEATED. The youth have to speak ancient words in the game that they the team mates and the coach god ehemel I mean the banister sorry my Great British not that good thus not understand perhaps they should give the youth nice shirts to march in around the GAA centres. They could smash the windows of none gambling, none drinking, none Irish speaking under classes

Nice username buddy;)

longpuck

sendit wrote: »

Example of a few so called smallers hurling county's.

First the Kerry hurling team get little to no support from the county board yet in the last 3 years they have made at least the semi final of the Christy Ring Cup been in the last 2 finals and won it at the weekend. Last year they also won the the leauge, in fact they only lost one game all year the Christy Ring Cup final by a point. I would go as far as to say they would be just outside the top 15 county's now in hurling and all this with little support or coverage. Also in the last 3 years they've won bacl to back Under 21 B titles and a Minor title more then under age football teams have yet they still get no supposrt.

Wicklow the same get little supposrt yet they've won back to back league titles the last 2 years and been in a Christy Ring semi final and final witch they both lost to Kerry.

Same thing in Westmeath and they've won 3/4 Christy Rings and a few league titles.

Why is it there so called small county's can have success with little backing from there county board and Cork who are ment to be one of the top teams cant just get on with it?

Yes there amateur players,why then do they fell as though they should be treated as professional?

Your the one slating the Cork County Board on this would you say what your saying on this to them face to face?

I would but if i did they might go on strike again....

Ment to post something about this but have been busy.

I read on Hoganstand a wile back (cant find the link now) about the Wicklow hurlers useing the footballers jerseys from 2/3 years ago for league games and not getting any new gear for themselfs.

Same thing happend with the Kerry Under 21 or Minor hurlering team not sure what one but they had jerseys that were 3/4 years old aswell

As for Wesmeath they had to pay for there own gear for the Christy Ring Cup final last year, i read a linkd about it when Kevin Martin left but again cant find it

Martin seemed to get no supposrt off the county board during his time in trems of training facilities etchttp://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=125687

Yet he and Westmeath got on with it till he left and didn't make a big deal about it like Cork.

I know Cork are ment to be one of the top teams but again if Westmeath can get over not having the best of everything and still have success why cant Cork?

longpuck

ShamoBuc wrote: »

The manager makes no difference? Sweetest divine almighty you really are lost in the fog....

There the ones playing not the manager and desided if there as good as they seem to think they are it should make no difference who was managing them.

He says it should make no difference not it makes no difference. He has a point the manager cant go out and play thats up to the players, there only so much a manager can do

longpuck

You also say all the Cork players are part of the GPA sounds to me that lads have no choise but to join it if they make the panel

longpuck

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

that has nothing to do with the examples I asked you for :rolleyes:

Example of Cork moaning about thing and an example that the likes of Donal Og and Sean Og think the GAA owe them something - 0, not surprised

You already have a thread about the lack of coverage of Kerry hurling so go off back there instead of derailing a thread with false accusations! Promotion of the games is not under the GPA's mandate

Kerry hurling not getting support from their CB yet succeeding, wow, delighted for them. :rolleyes: Its not a fair comparison - every person in the country can see that Kerry hurling is considered way below Kerry football within the CB. If you took the Kerry footballers and the Cork hurlers and compared the situation with regards the relevant CB, it is a much more relevant comparison, both being the main teams within the county

You know the support in Wicklow and Westmeath about hurling for definite from where???? Links please

I think the 3 strikes they went on are fairly good examples of that!

Had Cork spent less time on strike maybe they might have had more success

Pharaoh1

Small point.
Why the continuous use of the word "strike" in relation to Cork, Limerick, Offaly
It implies a withdrawal of labour or breach of employment contract.
There was/is no contract or any withdrawal of labour.

I understand it is a convenient term for what happened but imo it is not appropriate.

premierstone

Pharaoh1 wrote: »

Small point.
Why the continuous use of the word "strike" in relation to Cork, Limerick, Offaly
It implies a withdrawal of labour or breach of employment contract.
There was/is no contract or any withdrawal of labour.

I understand it is a convenient term for what happened but imo it is not appropriate.

What alternative term would you use so? I think everyone is aware of what it means in this context.

If you are suggesting that the term ''strike'' is inappropriate because of the amateur ethos of the organisation, then perhaps the players involved need to be reminded that it is an amateur organisation and to be selected to play for your county is a privilige not a right, obviously it works both ways but it must cut both ways.

crucamim

moomoocow wrote: »

"Last year the Kerry hurlers played London in London and had to sort out all there own hotels etc and had there gear brought by boat because the Kerry county board wouldn't pay to have it brought by plane, now where were the GPA hear? Had it been a ''big'' team they would be calling for strikes etc.

Where did you get the idea that the Kerry County Board, the Munster Council or the Central Council would worry about the Kerry hurliers going on strike? How much money do they generate for the GAA? Do they cost far more than they generate?

The Kerry footballers going on strike would be a different matter and even they could be faced down. As they were when they tried a political strike back in the 1940s.

sendit

premierstone wrote: »

What alternative term would you use so? I think everyone is aware of what it means in this context.

If you are suggesting that the term ''strike'' is inappropriate because of the amateur ethos of the organisation, then perhaps the players involved need to be reminded that it is an amateur organisation and to be selected to play for your county is a privilige not a right, obviously it works both ways but it must cut both ways.

Thats a good point

sendit

crucamim wrote: »

Where did you get the idea that the Kerry County Board, the Munster Council or the Central Council would worry about the Kerry hurliers going on strike? How much money do they generate for the GAA? Do they cost far more than they generate?

The Kerry footballers going on strike would be a different matter and even they could be faced down. As they were when they tried a political strike back in the 1940s.

Thats it they wouldn't give a s*** if they did for not and the GPA know that full well so then why did they not step in and try and do something?

crucamim

A.Hitler wrote: »

Yer, I think they are how do say a political party set up by a former dictator they are state funded and run by local bully boys they play a sport nine it how you say a game that is only played in this country so they can never play against other nations and therefore THEY CAN NEVER BE DEFEATED. The youth have to speak ancient words in the game that they the team mates and the coach god ehemel I mean the banister sorry my Great British not that good thus not understand perhaps they should give the youth nice shirts to march in around the GAA centres. They could smash the windows of none gambling, none drinking, none Irish speaking under classes

And what exactly is your problem?

keep going

thinking of starting an organisation called the PEWDATWTKGGA.that is


"the poor ejits who do all the work to keep the gaa going assos".alot of gaa people put in hours of dedication and hard work, alot more than players.they get nothing only hassle, abuse, and huge phone and petrol bills.nobody writes about them or tells them how good they are,they dont get to play in front of a crowd they dont have women chasing them building up their egoes,never get garda escorts, free gear or meals.so shouldnt they have someone to represent them