Migraines and meds

viota

Justask wrote: »

Ask him about Beta Blockers. 5 days :eek: you poor pet

i will thanks unfortunatly its back again My doctors on holidays for another week so i will just have to wait in bed with the curtains closed.

Justask

viota wrote: »

i will thanks unfortunatly its back again My doctors on holidays for another week so i will just have to wait in bed with the curtains closed.

OH NO :eek: send someone to get you femnix...a friend of mine swears by them they may help take the edge off

viota

ill try anything at this point

ppink

can you take motilium/domerid for the nausea? then caffeine and paracetamol?

Be careful with Beta blockers they may lower your BP, have it checked first.

Justask

ppink wrote: »

Be careful with Beta blockers they may lower your BP, have it checked first.

Beta blockers can only be given out by a doctor so they would have to check blood pressure

ppink

Justask wrote: »

Beta blockers can only be given out by a doctor so they would have to check blood pressure

Sorry, yeah i know that. I was trying to write concisely but ended up being a bit misleading in what I was trying to say:p

I had a nightmare with low BP and my GP still insisted on perscribing me beta blockers as a first defence for migraine. I was too scared to take them after I read the pack and waited to call my cardio instead who nearly had a fit and said no way was I ever to take Beta blockers! So I suppose what I am trying to say is if BP is an issue talk to your consultant also:)

viota

i took solpadeine and melfen i always have nausea so im used to it i didnt take anything for it.I doubt my gp will give me anything as they are never really prescribe me anything even when im in pain.i have fibromyalgia.

angel01

I am a long time sufferer of migraines, I have suffered I would think for about 12 years or so now. I used to take beta blockers every day but I have limited my use of those lately. I am extremely strict with my diet. I know triggers for me are Red wine, Chocolate, Caffeine, Cheese, reflection of sunlight, not eating enough, tiredness and a combination of all those.

My migraines have eased in recent years, I still get them but nowhere near as bad as it used to be. I have learned to live with it, I just try to take all the precautions that I can and now I don't get them as often as I used to.

The worst bit was always the stripey zig zag lines I get in my eyes, vision blurring, inability to focus.. that whole aura I got.

It does get easier, keep a diary and try to figure what your triggers are. It does make a difference. You do learn how to limit them, I know if I don't eat by say 9am or I skip any meals, I will end one. Usually I keep the blinds down when its sunny because that can start me off.

UCD2010

4 attacks in the past week... Feeling very down and hopeless atm.. amitriptyline obviously isn't working.. I must get in contact with the clinic in Beaumont.. I've been waiting 8 months now for another appointment and an MRI scan.. On the upside zomig has really helped.. While it doesn't get rid of the attack I only vomit once or not at all compared to 5 or 6 times without it! Can't find any patterns in my diet that is triggering the frequent attacks all of a sudden.. Am getting extremely frustrated..

James__10

"Since 01' I have been suffering intermittently with what I call 'Deja Vu Attacks', usually within a limited time period after suffering a migraine. I am 18yr old male now btw. The 'attack' goes as follows: I will be doing a normal daily activity such as looking out a window, walking etc. when I will suddenly feel a 'blow' or 'hit' on my head, and I experience a distinct feeling of deja vu, sometimes to the actual situation I am in, other times of another place and time. This deja vu lasts about 5 - 10 seconds, then the physical part hits. The sensation starts at the top of my head, and moves slowly through my whole body - I get lightheaded, then my heart starts pounding, I lose my breath, I feel violently nauseous, my knees go weak, and I have to sit for the duration of the attack - usually about 1 - 3 minutes before these symptoms clear enough for me to be able to communicate. The experience leaves my mental processes slow for a couple of hours and I feel a bit down for a few days then it passes.

Anyone ever experience these?

mattjack

James__10 wrote: »

"Since 01' I have been suffering intermittently with what I call 'Deja Vu Attacks', usually within a limited time period after suffering a migraine. I am 18yr old male now btw. The 'attack' goes as follows: I will be doing a normal daily activity such as looking out a window, walking etc. when I will suddenly feel a 'blow' or 'hit' on my head, and I experience a distinct feeling of deja vu, sometimes to the actual situation I am in, other times of another place and time. This deja vu lasts about 5 - 10 seconds, then the physical part hits. The sensation starts at the top of my head, and moves slowly through my whole body - I get lightheaded, then my heart starts pounding, I lose my breath, I feel violently nauseous, my knees go weak, and I have to sit for the duration of the attack - usually about 1 - 3 minutes before these symptoms clear enough for me to be able to communicate. The experience leaves my mental processes slow for a couple of hours and I feel a bit down for a few days then it passes.

Anyone ever experience these?

nothing really like that...maybe a trip to your GP might be in order ..BP check up...after a bad bout of migraine, when recovering I feel very well,like adrenalin is flowing through me..on top of the world.

Munstermad

I am a Mum of a 10 year old little girl who has been plagued with migraine since she was 7. She is a quiet unassuming girl who goes from this to a screaming, writhing wrech of a thing...
Her attacks last from 1 to 3 days and the last one she had was so intense I was on the brink of calling an ambulance for her I got so scared..
She's been given inderal (a beta blocker) sanomigran, migraleave but has gotten very little releif from any of these...
I know her triggers, overtiredness and stress...(I try and take as much of this out of her life as is possible)
Her migraines manifest while she is sleeping and usually wake her in the middle of the night so she gets no Aura /warning... therefore the preventatives are all they can really give her and they won't leave her on anything more than 1 month... Because she's 10 there is very little they can do.... At the moment she has to take sanomigran when she is under any stress or there is any kind of disruption to her sleeping pattern, doctors won't leave her on this long term.. and I can't always predict these trigger situations... Has anyone any safe remadies that I could consider for her, there are plenty of suggestions for adults but very little for children....
As someone who has only ever experienced a headache that was self inflicted I just want to say my heart goes out to you, what a disabling horrific affliction...

Jumpy

I thought I might share here.

I used to get them once every week to two weeks. Nurofen plus was the only thing I thought would get rid of them, however the rebound headache caused by the codeine was actually the trigger for the next one so it was an endless spiral of weekly migraines.
Once I was put on Immigran they almost stopped completely, now get them only under periods of stress which the Immigran deals with in an hour.

So it turns out codeine was actually the trigger. For those who get very regular migraines who take a codeine based medication, you might be causing them unknowingly.

ppink

Munstermad wrote: »

I am a Mum of a 10 year old little girl who has been plagued with migraine since she was 7. She is a quiet unassuming girl who goes from this to a screaming, writhing wrech of a thing...
Her attacks last from 1 to 3 days and the last one she had was so intense I was on the brink of calling an ambulance for her I got so scared..
She's been given inderal (a beta blocker) sanomigran, migraleave but has gotten very little releif from any of these...
I know her triggers, overtiredness and stress...(I try and take as much of this out of her life as is possible)
Her migraines manifest while she is sleeping and usually wake her in the middle of the night so she gets no Aura /warning... therefore the preventatives are all they can really give her and they won't leave her on anything more than 1 month... Because she's 10 there is very little they can do.... At the moment she has to take sanomigran when she is under any stress or there is any kind of disruption to her sleeping pattern, doctors won't leave her on this long term.. and I can't always predict these trigger situations... Has anyone any safe remadies that I could consider for her, there are plenty of suggestions for adults but very little for children....
As someone who has only ever experienced a headache that was self inflicted I just want to say my heart goes out to you, what a disabling horrific affliction...

It is terrible that your daughter has them so young. hopefully she will grow out of them. I suppose you have probably researched all the natural things but a couple of things I found were;
exercise.....genuinly the more I do the less I suffer.
Lavender oil sprinkled on pillow can help me.
I am finding now that if i can stop the nausea I can stop the headache. does she get nausea too?
does she grind her teeth at night? i do and I rarely sleep well, in fact I had several general anaesthetics recently and I was very happy having them as I finally was asleep!! if she clenches/grinds her teeth it may not be helping.
are you under the care of a neurologist with her?

neelyohara

Jumpy wrote: »

So it turns out codeine was actually the trigger. For those who get very regular migraines who take a codeine based medication, you might be causing them unknowingly.

I was diagnosed last Christmas after suffering for months. I put it down to stress and thought it was a normal headache so I took painkillers. When the bog standard didn't cut it I upped them to codeine based meds - Tylex, Sydol, Solpadeine...

It never occurred to me that I might be causing rebound headaches!

While waiting for the MRI/Neurologist appointments I cut them out, obviously the migraines didn't disappear but the intensity was greatly reduced.

JonathanAd

Hi KyussBishop, I would like to say great thanks to you as your post was truly informative for me and it helped me also in my research.

Truly Remarkable!

Munstermad

ppink and jumpy, thanks so much for your input...
Yes she gets nausea but it's only when the vomiting starts does the heaache start to subside... but she can vomit for up to 7 hours... is so horrible.
Will try the lavender, she doesn't grind her teeth I don't think but I'll monitor her more over the next while to be sure... She does have a problem with her eyes and wears glasses... ???
She is under the care of a peadiatrician but not neurologist... If they get more frequent will insist on referral..
Thanks again..

Susie564

Munstermad wrote: »

ppink and jumpy, thanks so much for your input...
Yes she gets nausea but it's only when the vomiting starts does the heaache start to subside... but she can vomit for up to 7 hours... is so horrible.
Will try the lavender, she doesn't grind her teeth I don't think but I'll monitor her more over the next while to be sure... She does have a problem with her eyes and wears glasses... ???
She is under the care of a peadiatrician but not neurologist... If they get more frequent will insist on referral..
Thanks again..

It sounds truly awful, and for someone so young to suffer in this way. It must be so worrying and stressful for you too. I'd have her at any specialist who'll see her.....esp if you feel you're not getting anywhere with pediatrics. Neurology sounds like a good place to start. Best of luck with it.

neelyohara wrote: »

I was diagnosed last Christmas after suffering for months. I put it down to stress and thought it was a normal headache so I took painkillers. When the bog standard didn't cut it I upped them to codeine based meds - Tylex, Sydol, Solpadeine...

It never occurred to me that I might be causing rebound headaches!

While waiting for the MRI/Neurologist appointments I cut them out, obviously the migraines didn't disappear but the intensity was greatly reduced.

At my last appointment with my pain consultant I said I had been taking paracetamol along with what he had prescribed and he warned me that it can cause rebound pain also. I think if you are going to be taking any OTC medication long term you have to be careful.

ppink

Munstermad wrote: »

ppink and jumpy, thanks so much for your input...
Yes she gets nausea but it's only when the vomiting starts does the heaache start to subside... but she can vomit for up to 7 hours... is so horrible.
Will try the lavender, she doesn't grind her teeth I don't think but I'll monitor her more over the next while to be sure... She does have a problem with her eyes and wears glasses... ???
She is under the care of a peadiatrician but not neurologist... If they get more frequent will insist on referral..
Thanks again..

I usually take domerid for the nausea, you could try that. I find it works fairly quick for me. that is a long time to be vomiting although my Oh gets classic migraine and he says the same that when he gets sick it starts to get better.
Do you have any of those eye masks that you put in the freezer? I have several cold packs and an eye mask always in the freezer. i use it on the back and front of my neck to cool the blood flow to the brain?
I also find that if I wear sunglasses it can make me worse due to the pressure of the glasses on my nose! can she try contacts at her age?

As regards referral to neuro. there is massive waiting list so if i were you I would get the referral anyway. if you need to cancel fine but the last I went the queue was 18 months for the migraine clinic in Dub

mattjack

Munstermad wrote: »

I am a Mum of a 10 year old little girl who has been plagued with migraine since she was 7. She is a quiet unassuming girl who goes from this to a screaming, writhing wrech of a thing...
Her attacks last from 1 to 3 days and the last one she had was so intense I was on the brink of calling an ambulance for her I got so scared..
She's been given inderal (a beta blocker) sanomigran, migraleave but has gotten very little releif from any of these...
I know her triggers, overtiredness and stress...(I try and take as much of this out of her life as is possible)
Her migraines manifest while she is sleeping and usually wake her in the middle of the night so she gets no Aura /warning... therefore the preventatives are all they can really give her and they won't leave her on anything more than 1 month... Because she's 10 there is very little they can do.... At the moment she has to take sanomigran when she is under any stress or there is any kind of disruption to her sleeping pattern, doctors won't leave her on this long term.. and I can't always predict these trigger situations... Has anyone any safe remadies that I could consider for her, there are plenty of suggestions for adults but very little for children....
As someone who has only ever experienced a headache that was self inflicted I just want to say my heart goes out to you, what a disabling horrific affliction...

hi..I,m sorry about your daughters condition.I suffer myself with migraine,but nothing like what your daughter has.I have taken beta blockers over the years and various different otc pain killers..one thing that was suggested to me recently was to try a magnesium supplement and it has to a certain degree worked.
I did notice that sometimes when there was a full moon I seemed to get a migraine..with the magnesium ..any migraine I get now doesnt seem so bad.
I also gave up salt and the usual dairy products.
I,ve had migraine since I was about 14 and i,m 42 now.
Speak to your chemist about the magnesium ....
best of luck to you and your daughter..:)

Lucyfur

Hi everyone:)

My son has just been diagnosed It's horrible, my heart goes out to anyone who suffers with migraine. He's almost 9. It's such an awful thing to suffer with. His start with either a pain in his left eye, or a pain in his stomach. He's been put on neoclarityn (an antihistamine) for a few weeks as his sinuses are snuffley and a bit blocked. When he gets an attack, I give him nurofen immediately. If I get it into him early enough, and get him resting in a darkened room, he's usually fine within a couple of hours. If I don't get the nurofen in soon enough, he projectile vomits. Like Munstermad, one episode was so bad I was close to calling an ambulance. He was sick for hours and he was shaking and weak from it

We're waiting on an appointment with a paediatrician. Doctor gave me paralink suppositories, to be used if he's vomiting excessively. After reading through this, I think he's relatively lucky as he's never been down with one for more than a day. I suppose the only upside to the vomiting is the headache goes after he has vomited. I've given him sudafed (liquid form) with the nurofen and that seems to work quite well. It also helps him sleep it off. I just hate having to medicate a child...Mattjack, it's interesting you should mention magnesium. My lad took zinc and magnesium tablets for a year, it was before he started getting migraine, but he was never sick in the time he was on them.

I think his trigger might be stress, which breaks my heart. I hate thinking of a child suffering with stress:( I've been keeping a food diary for years. He's autistic too and we've tried several diets for the sensory issues he suffers with. He has a great diet...no junk, homemade wholesome foods, very little sugar, nothing processed. Of course, he gets the odd treat too, chocolate doesn't seem to affect him and he has milk on porridge everyday...but, last weekend he had a cheeseburger and had a migraine the next day...I would've thought if dairy was a trigger he wouldn't be able to have any kind of dairy

Temaz

I get cluster headaches, they can be unbearable.

belle_09

You would think that all dairy would be a problem but it isn't for me. Can't touch cheese or I will have an awful migraine within an hour but all other dairy is fine. Strange but I've been like that for over ten years now. Horrible that your son is getting migraine at such a young age. It is possible he will grow out of it though seeing as he has started getting them so early.

Lucyfur wrote: »

Hi everyone:)

My son has just been diagnosed It's horrible, my heart goes out to anyone who suffers with migraine. He's almost 9. It's such an awful thing to suffer with. His start with either a pain in his left eye, or a pain in his stomach. He's been put on neoclarityn (an antihistamine) for a few weeks as his sinuses are snuffley and a bit blocked. When he gets an attack, I give him nurofen immediately. If I get it into him early enough, and get him resting in a darkened room, he's usually fine within a couple of hours. If I don't get the nurofen in soon enough, he projectile vomits. Like Munstermad, one episode was so bad I was close to calling an ambulance. He was sick for hours and he was shaking and weak from it

We're waiting on an appointment with a paediatrician. Doctor gave me paralink suppositories, to be used if he's vomiting excessively. After reading through this, I think he's relatively lucky as he's never been down with one for more than a day. I suppose the only upside to the vomiting is the headache goes after he has vomited. I've given him sudafed (liquid form) with the nurofen and that seems to work quite well. It also helps him sleep it off. I just hate having to medicate a child...Mattjack, it's interesting you should mention magnesium. My lad took zinc and magnesium tablets for a year, it was before he started getting migraine, but he was never sick in the time he was on them.

I think his trigger might be stress, which breaks my heart. I hate thinking of a child suffering with stress:( I've been keeping a food diary for years. He's autistic too and we've tried several diets for the sensory issues he suffers with. He has a great diet...no junk, homemade wholesome foods, very little sugar, nothing processed. Of course, he gets the odd treat too, chocolate doesn't seem to affect him and he has milk on porridge everyday...but, last weekend he had a cheeseburger and had a migraine the next day...I would've thought if dairy was a trigger he wouldn't be able to have any kind of dairy

dbmauser

Don't know if I should post this here,but my migraines are starting to effect my work.I feel threatened that I may loose my job.iv missed some days due to the pain and effects of the migraine but I don't think people understand something they can't physically see.any advice will be greatly apreciated

asark

Hi, I practice bio-energy in my spare time. I have treated chronic headaches and was able to alleviate migraine to some extent. PM me if interested to try out a few sessions (there will be no charge). I can only do 1 session per week on weekend’s morning.

Ostrom

Just adding my own treatment experience for future reference. Have experienced hemiplegic migraine since late childhood, although numbness is quite rare now - dealt with Mr. Doherty in St. James and my g.p. mainly. I take zomig as needed, and tried a course of effexor which greatly reduced the frequency, but came with some nasty side effects - and the withdrawl was horrible. I'm fortunate in that although they are intense, and typically with vomiting, they peak quite quickly and the pain yields to a hangover in about 4-5 hours. Alternated aspirin and ibuprofen work best for me if the abortives don't work. Overall I'm quite fortunate as I get around 7-8 per year now, which is largely down to lifestyle adjustment.

noah45

I have been getting migraines for over 30 years now, and their intensity i getting worse.
I get the aura 90% of the time-numbness, blind spots, difficulty with words and tiredness. Stress and wine are the only triggers that I have identified.

Tried beta blockers-made me very tired, imigran worked but stroke wise I am not happy to take them anymore.
Paracetamol, ponstan, lyrica, nurofen, solpadeine and tradol have no effect at all. But Feminax and solpadol work brilliantly. Have only been perscribed solpadol twice. Don't know why the feminax works so well when solpadeine is like smarties to me.

adox

I`ve suffered with migraines for the last 10 years or so. I usually wake up in the morning and know that one is coming on. I feel disorientated and light headed and cant concentrate at all. The worst thing I can do is stay in bed longer so I get up straight away and try and eat and drink and go for a walk. Its a lottery whether this will work or not, more often than not it doesnt.

I get them maybe only every couple of months now. When they come on fully I cant eat or sit up, keep my eyes open for long periods. I feel very sick and on many occasions vomit. I have to go to bed with the curtains drawn and in complete silence and I will sleep for hours on end,a deep deep sleep, deeper than a normal nights sleep, nearly like my whole system is shutting down, no matter what time the attack is at. It will last for a couple of days but the first day will be the only day where I cant function at all. the second day feels like a hangover but I know I am through the worst.

Up until 3 years ago i was a sales rep covering the 32 counties and there was nothing worse than feeling a migraine coming on when you are miles from home. i lost a good few days off sick because of the migraines and there were plenty of occasions when I was on the road and had to pull over to vomit and then try and concentrate on a 3 or 4 hour drive home in the full throws of a migraine. It was an absolute nightmare.

My GP did prescribe beta blockers but they had no effect and also a preventative tablet to take daily(cant remember what it was) but that had no effect either.

I have missed plenty of social occasions at the last minute due to a migraine, most recently a friends wedding. My wife had to attend on her own as I couldnt move.

I`m no longer driving for a living thank God so some of that anxiety about them has gone. At the time I was getting a severe attack maybe once a month. I have recently started keeping a food diary so will see if there is any pattern to the attacks in relation to food.

I feel really sorry for anyone who suffers the same. The feeling is quite hard to describe and has me totally incapacitated. When I wake up with the early symptoms it sort of feels like you have been kicked in the head and you cant clear that disorientated feeling from your head, if that makes sense.

KyussBishop

Yes even though I don't get them too frequently now, the time-stealing aspect of them, losing days at a time, is very annoying (since you are literally incapable of doing anything, no matter how important); even when I just feel like I might be getting one, my day has to stop so I can concentrate on prevention and managing it (usually making sure I keep very well hydrated, and that I eat), which can interfere with work sometimes, as I can't concentrate on that without risking it blooming (thankfully though, I'm self employed working from home, which gives plenty of flexibility).

Hydration is a pretty important aspect of it I think (for me anyway), so I try to never go to bed dehydrated (and to have a glass of water beside my bed if I am thirsty), and to not drink alcohol too late (so that I have the capacity/time to get a couple of cups of tea, since alcohol tends to dehydrate, before going to bed), otherwise I may wake up with the start of a migraine coming on, and can lose that day.

loveisdivine

Just looking to see if anybody else gets the same as me.
My migraines only started this year. I've had 3 episodes so far this year. I call them episodes because it seems that I get an aura which usually last about 10 minutes, then a mild headache and generally groggyness. Its not really that bad pain wise, my problem is the time time they go on for.
IOnce an episode starts I usually have another 2 or 3 aura's over the following 2-3 days. Are these classed as seperate migraines? Or all just part of one migraine episode?

For instance, I got an aura Friday just gone at about 5pm. No real headache, just a bit tired. Another aura Saturday evening, then again Sunday morning and another Sunday night. Nothing so far this morning.

Should I class that as 1 migraine or 4? I go for months in between these episodes. No real trigger other than all 3 have happened since I moved to a new job and they have all started whilst I have been at work, on the computer.