What's your opinion on people who use recreational drugs?

Napper Hawkins

amacachi wrote: »

The first 4 times didn't make you think of stopping?

I think when I mentioned I was young, angry and stupid that it's fairly clear thinking wasn't one of my strong suits.

Saila

Johro wrote: »

Pfffff.... This again...
Cucumber sandwich anyone?

or russian roulette?

amacachi

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

I think when I mentioned I was young, angry and stupid that it's fairly clear thinking wasn't one of my strong suits.

Yeah, but it was still the alcohol.

yesno1234

Silentcorner wrote: »

Don't do drugs myself....people who do need to understand the consequences to society at large....gangland violence...increased deprivation of already deprived areas....chance of addiction increases with every use....increased petty crime...anyone notice the upsurge in herion addicts....more weed users lead to more hard drug users leads to more addicts....

Well now thats just not true. It has been proven that there is no correlation between people using weed and said people taking 'harder' drugs. IT IS NOT A GATEWAY DRUG.

deisedave

Let people do what they want as long as they dont hurt or effect other people.
But if your buying illegal drugs then you are hurting society, on the other hand if your growing your own :D:D wheres the harm

Xivilai

Great bunch of lads

citizen_p

were "shrooms" not legal here till somone jumped out of a window....
(obviously they must have had a beter case?)

if you look at how many people died from drink driving or just drinking to much...

deisedave

Mousey- wrote: »

were "shrooms" not legal here till somone jumped out of a window....
(obviously they must have had a beter case?)

if you look at how many people died from drink driving or just drinking to much...

There is no tax to be made of wild shrooms.:D:D:D

Turpentine

Ally Dick wrote: »

Anyone who takes illegal drugs should be reported to the cops straight away.I don't think it should be tolerated in any way.

To what end exactly? There wouldn't be enough prison space in the country if the gardai went around arresting everyone who takes drugs. Irish jails are already overcrowded as it is.

Turpentine

Silentcorner wrote: »

....more weed users lead to more hard drug users leads to more addicts....

A lot of heroin addicts may have started out using weed or hash. I'm sure they probably started out drinking alcohol before that as well though.

The monumental, overwhelming majority of people who smoke a joint every now and again will never ever become heroin addicts.

Correlation is not causality.

flas

drugs can be great fun! nothin like having a few pints of guinness and a cig or a few joints at the end of the day, very relaxing! mushrooms aswell are fun when taken with friends. mdma beats them all hands down, safe as houses too which is a huge plus!

coke is sh!te and a stupid drug, dont know why anyone would go near it, mostly just scummers take it though!

Tilt Gone

flas wrote: »

drugs can be great fun! nothin like having a few pints of guinness and a cig or a few joints at the end of the day, very relaxing! mushrooms aswell are fun when taken with friends. mdma beats them all hands down, safe as houses too which is a huge plus!

coke is sh!te and a stupid drug, dont know why anyone would go near it, mostly just scummers take it though!

I have to laugh at the bull**** that people post in threads like this. So everything YOU take is fine. But I'm a scummer because you don't like coke??

Dozen Wicked Words

amacachi wrote: »

Yeah, but it was still the alcohol.

ah for Fuchs sake, you spoilt it saying alcohol, I could have sworn it was going to be curly wurlys that caused the problems.

Joe10000

How many Beatles songs would not exist if it weren't for recreational drugs ?

Flojo

If certain drugs like weed, mdma, 2C-B could be legalised, made safer and sold in shops, also be taxed in the way that cigarettes and alcohol are, then the government would make a lot of money which they could use to fund so many services that are crying out for help. The money could go towards helping those hooked on drugs that actually do devastate lives ie heroin, meth...it would help with rehabilitation and drugs education. It would also dramatically lower crime rates! But no... people are too bloody backward.

Cupcake_Crisis

Each to their own. Its not something id ever do again but id never frown upon someone who chose to do it.

enda1

themadchef wrote: »

I basically dont give two fúcks how much weed you smoke, coke you take, E's you drop...so long as youre not getting behind the wheel of a car or falling under mine.

Just close the door behind you.

Ah common! You drop acid. Jeeze. Has Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas thought you nothing!?

FlutterinBantam

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

I have drank alcohol, smoked weed, taken ecstacy and MDMA, mushrooms and cocaine.

I had a blast with all of them.

But only one of those drugs has gotten me arrested 5 times.
Only one has gotten me into fistfights or beaten up and put in hospital.
Only one has lost me friends, pissed off my family or damaged a relationship I was in.
Only one of those drugs has been the reason for some of the most miserable experiences I've had so far in my life.

Guess which one?

Here's a hint: It's legal.

Good auld Napper, blame everything but yourself ,pal, for being what most reasonable people would perceive as being a total arsehole.


Here's a hint, look in the mirror buddy:rolleyes:

Show Time

Each to their own.

ElleEm

If recreational drug taking stays recreational, then I don't see the problem.

stovelid

Ally Dick wrote: »

Why do you think there is a drug gang epidemic in Ireland with people shooting each other in pubs and parked cars ?

Because substances that otherwise law abiding tax paying citizens wish to use are prohibited.

mahamageehad

I honestly think legalising some drugs would get rid of a lot of the current problems associated with them, like
gangland warfare
not know what you're getting
being cut with shít
selling to underagers
controlling how much people buy

And the taxes would be a massive boost to the economy! Obviously we should test this on a small scale first with weed. But if, after a long time with no adverse effects, things were still going well we could look into some of the harder drugs, like coke.

I think a lot of the attitudes to drugs in this country are silly. People always want what they can't have. When I was underage I drank... simply because I knew I wasn't supposed to! Which made it all the more fun! I think many of the anti-drugs squad would be surprised at how many of the country's young successful professionals occasionally indulge.

Also, I wonder how many of the people so against drugs occasionally indulge in recreational alcohol? Which is nothing but a legalised drug. That worked out pretty fine after prohibition, what's to say drugs won't do the same?

Show Time

Ben Hadad wrote: »

Alcohol is easily the most powerful and damaging drug I have taken. Alcohol is bad, it really is. But its OK cos Heineken Corp. and Diagio are listed companies with shiny adverts and sponsor rugby competitions and wholesome stuff like that.

Alcohol is a drug made legal.

A spot on post.
Everything in the country is drink oriented from the moment you are born to the day you die.

GTDolanator

stoner of six years here..

til last friday anyway,had a massive panic attack.Very hard to describe but i can tell you i never want one again.So ive gone from smoking 5 roasters a day to 0!!

Ive never felt better,so people who smoke weed take pills etc....cop on and take the opurtunity while youve still got your health and knock it on the head.

I cant even strat to describe how much better i feel since last friday.

common sense brigade

I think its sad and i speak from experience. I was big into the coke scene. Parties every weekend. and i couldnt go out without coke. But i held down a good job and never touched the stuff until the weekend hit. It eventually took its toll, all drugs , alcohol included do. So i packed up my bags and moved to the country,. wouldnt touch drugs now. they seriously effect ur mental health maybe not immediately but you will feel the repucsussions when the party starts to fade. I think hash is much the same as alcohol. It was never a drug i was into as it made me sleepy and lazy. I only like drugs that made me hyper. when i look back now I cringe. Never again, I can seriously say now as a parent how i undertstand older people saying never do drugs. Where i live in the country teenagers are into playing GAA and having a few pints. Drugs would be unusual here. And people are happier. Crime is zero and you dont need to lock ur door at night either. walk into any major town and you can spot a druggie on a night out a mile off. Lost count of the amount of beautiful looking crazed women with nosebleeds i used to see in my hometown in the toilets. its not glamourous people.

common sense brigade

common sense brigade wrote: »

Where i live in the country teenagers are into playing GAA and having a few pints. Drugs would be unusual here.

Sounds like a contradiction.

I have no problems with people who use drugs recreationally. Only someone with a juvenile understanding of the surrounding culture and pharmacology would automatically equate recreational use of illegal drugs with addiction to heroin or something similar.

wild_cat

I'll tolerate pretty much everything bar people smoking crack or injecting. Do those in my company and you can get the **** out.

wild_cat

common sense brigade wrote: »

Where i live in the country teenagers are into playing GAA and having a few pints. Drugs would be unusual here. And people are happier. Crime is zero and you dont need to lock ur door at night either. walk into any major town and you can spot a druggie on a night out a mile off. Lost count of the amount of beautiful looking crazed women with nosebleeds i used to see in my hometown in the toilets. its not glamourous people.

I'm from the country to and every time I got home I'm amazed at how many of the young local GAA "stars" are in the local paper for possession of a bit of petrolley hash.

Gives me a bit of a laugh. As it usually says something along the lines of "Solicitor for the defendant told the judge that his client "Was a well respected farmers son who hoped to go to travelling to Australia one day".

maximoose

I've smoked a lot of weed, not so much lately but still on occasions. Have never/will never try anything stronger than that, and wouldn't tolerate others doing it around me.

common sense brigade

have no problems with people who use drugs recreationally

It really doesnt bother me if people choose to do drugs, I just have turned my back on that way of life. I would not allow someone to come into my home and do drugs but what they do in their own home is up to them.
I know people who have young kids and they openly smoke and sell hash in their homes. In front of their children. The same can be said of alcohol and getting drunk when your kids are in the house.To me its all one in the same and wrong.

wild_cat

common sense brigade wrote: »

I know people who have young kids and they openly smoke and sell hash in their homes. In front of their children. The same can be said of alcohol and getting drunk when your kids are in the house.To me its all one in the same and wrong.

I think this might be the only thing we'll ever agree on. It doesn't matter what it is but if it does something to you, you shouldn't do it in front of your kids. As I've mentioned I'm pretty darn liberal when it comes to tolerating those who use drugs but never in front of a kid. Ever.

common sense brigade

from the country to and every time I got home I'm amazed at how many of the young local GAA "stars" are in the local paper for possession of a bit of petrolley hash

I agree that there are also drugs in rural areas dont get me wrong. But its no where near as big a problem as major towns or cities. But im in a particulary rural area and have not been offered drugs once in the 3 years im here. and i socialise and go out in the town with workmates.

Sanjuro

W.Shakes-Beer wrote: »

Junkies.

But not my business, they can do that once it doesn't directly affect me.

Are you suggesting that anybody who smokes the odd joint, or has a pill at a gig, or does the occassional line of coke at a party is a junkie? You're equating them to people who habitually use heroin or crack? Really? The same thing?

Are people who have a pint on Friday nights alcoholics?

common sense brigade

As I've mentioned I'm pretty darn liberal when it comes to tolerating those who use drugs but never in front of a kid. Ever

Oh im liberal about drugs too. dont get me wrong. i look down on no one for doing drugs i just prefer not to have drugs in my life.

common sense brigade

Only someone with a juvenile understanding of the surrounding culture and pharmacology would automatically equate recreational use of illegal drugs with addiction to heroin or something similar

Also depends on how you define recreational.
Recreational to one person might be once every 3-4 months having a pill or some coke, kicking back with some friends.
It also could be a person doing coke every friday and saturday night. Operating on zero sleep.Throw in a few pills. alcohol and hash. and you have one wrecked person come sunday evening. Now im not saying they are junkies. and i lived similar to that in my early 20's. but that kinda lifestyle really will catch up on you. some people will fair ok. but some will have mental health problems not to mention dented bank account and self esteem from doing stupid dangerous things.
And the embarrassment of the cringy arse licking things you say to people when ur on coke or pills. Its a huge fake culture of feeding people's ego and getting ur own fed too.
But im not for banning people from drugs or anything like that. I think if people want to do drugs then thats up to them.

LisaLowlife

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Good auld Napper, blame everything but yourself ,pal, for being what most reasonable people would perceive as being a total arsehole.


Here's a hint, look in the mirror buddy:rolleyes:

If you read further into the discussion, Napper did admit that he was young and stupid. I think he makes a very valid point.

You sound like you either have a previous issue with Napper or alcohol.

Napper Hawkins

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Good auld Napper, blame everything but yourself ,pal, for being what most reasonable people would perceive as being a total arsehole.


Here's a hint, look in the mirror buddy:rolleyes:

Coming from you Flutterin Bantam, that's a compliment.

I'm such an arsehole FB, that I took a good long hard look in the mirror already years ago and made a massive effort to better myself. Complete arsehole so I am.

So everyone with a problem is just an arsehole in your opinion?
You must be pretty hated by a lot of people in real life as much as you are on here.

Napper Hawkins

amacachi wrote: »

Yeah, but it was still the alcohol.

Am I speaking chinese? Yes, it was the alcohol. Not an ounce of trouble from anything else I did.

Or you can continue to miss my point, I don't really give a toss.

LisaLowlife

I occasionally smoke dope. I used to smoke heavy but that's not good for the head. I've tried a lot of other drugs but have no interest.

I have to agree with a lot of the comment above about alcohol causing a lot more trouble than drugs

willow tree

the majority of my friends did drugs back in the day but i never really did.. i never minded but now i hate them, they really tear families apart and ruin lives.. i would see weed and alcohol as being the same, you can enjoy the odd bit but they are both damaging if abused.. i know alclholics full of shame so they keep drinking to escape it.. people who smoke weed everyday full of paranoia so they smoke more to avoid it..
coke- i hate it, the soundest people i know turned into a holes on this crap and after a while they didnt feel too hot either.. e makes people sooo fake its not funny.. and now fights are so violent as people off their heads dont even know what they are doing- turns me off going out in towns/cities.. not to mention the scum being financed, boo, down with this sort of thing...

wild_cat

willow tree wrote: »

coke- i hate it, the soundest people i know turned into a holes on this crap and after a while they didnt feel too hot either..

I've found that people who turn into arse holes after taking coke are usually arseholes anyway, they're just better at hiding it in their day to day lives.

I've never touched the stuff personally and only know two people that can take it without turning into complete nob ends.

AudreyHepburn

Regarding alcohol;

I do enjoy a drink myself but only occasionally (on a night out which only happen once or twice a month really) and I certainly would never take more than 3 or 4 a night, usually three).

Now yes alcohol can be dangerous when taken to excess. If your drinking is leading to fist fights, arrests, family problems and so forth it is because you are drinking far too much and you ought to think about getting help. I mean this with all respect.

One or two drinks will do no harm to anyone, binging or drinking everyday or getting to the point where you need it to function will.

Korvanica

I like my smoke and other drugs, but i don't do them everytime I go out as its pointless... You'd only become dependent on using them to have fun... Although I like a spliff on a night out anytime...

Also, all the people here saying that people who use drugs are Junkies and should be reported, if you have no experience with drugs and you are saying this... go **** yourself. Don't comment on something you have no experience of... thats what people do in Russia...

sbsquarepants

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

One or two drinks will do no harm to anyone, binging or drinking everyday or getting to the point where you need it to function will.

You can basically replace alcohol in this sentence with any other drug.
When taken in moderation, most drugs are very enjoyable - that's why so many people take them! If they were this horrible life ruining evil no go area, do you honestly think people would buy countless billions worth every year across the whole world? Come on, use some common sense!

The problem of course is moderation, some people just can't seem to master the concept, people eat too much, drink too much, gamble too much and so on. If you are not one of these people, you can have a great time on drugs - that may not be politically correct but it's 100% true.

So my opinion of people on recreational drugs is, go for it, have a laugh, life is short.
My opinion of junkies is, life is short and you're fúcking wasting yours and destroying plenty of others around you, you scumbag.

the_syco

Alcoholics = junkie. You abuse your drug of choice, and everyone near you is effected.

gosuckonalemon

GTDolanator wrote: »

stoner of six years here..

til last friday anyway,had a massive panic attack.Very hard to describe but i can tell you i never want one again.So ive gone from smoking 5 roasters a day to 0!!

Ive never felt better,so people who smoke weed take pills etc....cop on and take the opurtunity while youve still got your health and knock it on the head.

I cant even strat to describe how much better i feel since last friday.

Jeez, you had one little panic attack and you're gonna give up taking recreational drugs?? And then you want to preach about the dangers of drug use? Hahah:rolleyes:

tbh

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

I have drank alcohol, smoked weed, taken ecstacy and MDMA, mushrooms and cocaine.

I had a blast with all of them.

But only one of those drugs has gotten me arrested 5 times.
Only one has gotten me into fistfights or beaten up and put in hospital.
Only one has lost me friends, pissed off my family or damaged a relationship I was in.
Only one of those drugs has been the reason for some of the most miserable experiences I've had so far in my life.

Guess which one?

Here's a hint: It's legal.

I've been drunk loads of times and REALLY drunk a few times, never hit anyone, never got arrested or put in hospital, never lost friends because of it.
You can't handle alcohol, and I respect the hell out of you for realising that and addressing your problems, and admitting to it here, but just because you couldn't handle it doesn't make it evil. Alcohol wasn't the reason for those experiences, your decision to overindulge in it was. But like I say, loads of respect for you sorting yourself out now man.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

W.Shakes-Beer wrote: »

Junkies.

But not my business, they can do that once it doesn't directly affect me.

Do you happen to write for the Independant by any chance?

A bit sensationalist to call somebody who uses recreational drugs a junkie.

Do you drink? Can we class you as an alcoholic?


OP, it is a bit hypocritical to say one drug is ok while others are not just because of the legality of said drugs.

Let people do as they wish once they don't harm other people.

AudreyHepburn

tbh wrote: »

I've been drunk loads of times and REALLY drunk a few times, never hit anyone, never got arrested or put in hospital, never lost friends because of it.
You can't handle alcohol, and I respect the hell out of you for realising that and addressing your problems, and admitting to it here, but just because you couldn't handle it doesn't make it evil. Alcohol wasn't the reason for those experiences, your decision to overindulge in it was. But like I say, loads of respect for you sorting yourself out now man.

Agreed. Heavy drinking/binging, which Napper acknowledges he did, is usually a sympton of something more going beneath surface. The drink in itself is not the problem, rather its a way of dealing with it or it is a symptom of the problem.

I truely respect anyone who recognise they have a problem and deal with it.

Napper Hawkins

tbh wrote: »

I've been drunk loads of times and REALLY drunk a few times, never hit anyone, never got arrested or put in hospital, never lost friends because of it.
You can't handle alcohol, and I respect the hell out of you for realising that and addressing your problems, and admitting to it here, but just because you couldn't handle it doesn't make it evil. Alcohol wasn't the reason for those experiences, your decision to overindulge in it was. But like I say, loads of respect for you sorting yourself out now man.

Cheers! But I can handle alcohol, I still drink and get drunk quite regularly! I don't think it's evil, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of it being legal while others are not.

For the record, it was whiskey that was the culprit, sent me daft. Had a lot of bull**** in my life and tried to solve my problems by drinking them away. Not ashamed of it either, you learn from your mistakes. Once I cut that out of my life I never had a problem with booze ever again.