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Length of essays in English papers

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  • Registered Users Posts: 25 BubblesXD


    BrendaN_f wrote: »
    haha, do you? and what made your mock examiner so much more competent than mine?

    I never said yours was more competent than mine. Realistically discussing your comparative in 2.5 pages is a joke. That is all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭MikeHough


    Bbbbolger wrote: »
    Also, on the matter of the amount of pages, writing size has a lot to do with it. I have very small writing. I can fit 3 pages of a few of my friends writing onto 2 pages. So one persons 7 page comparative could be 4 or 5 for you if they have large writing and you have small writing.

    ya i hear 10-12 is the average words per line so base the average answer length on that i guess and change it to suit your word count per line


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭rockycoolness22


    I've found for myself that my comparative usually fits just over 4 pages or so!
    For Hamlet I do between 3 and 4 pages and poetry about 3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Dr. Ring


    Honestly it's not about quantity, it's about quality. I wrote TWO pages for my King Lear essay, three-four for my poetry (Yeats) and probably close to seven or eight pages in total for my comparitive (30/40 question). Maybe a page for unseen and tht was it.

    I know the comparitive was long but if you make good arguements, use the PQE rule and keep your answer sounding fresh and fluid you should do very well.

    Dont panic tonight about length guys. Make your point and leave it. An extra page or two of rambling is an awful lot worse than someone who was smart enough to call it a day after a page and a half.

    Best of luck to all of ye tomorrow. I'll be thinkin of ye :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Salty


    Also, if you're running out of time on a question, leave it and move on. It's easier to got from 0-40 in a new question, than 80-90 in the one you were working on. Hope that makes sense.:P


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  • Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭BrendaN_f


    BubblesXD wrote: »
    I never said yours was more competent than mine. Realistically discussing your comparative in 2.5 pages is a joke. That is all

    well then, if our examiners were of equal competence, and we both got the same score, despite the length differences, then why is it a joke? maybe you just aren't very concise


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 j123456789


    Dr. Ring wrote: »
    Honestly it's not about quantity, it's about quality. I wrote TWO pages for my King Lear essay, three-four for my poetry (Yeats) and probably close to seven or eight pages in total for my comparitive (30/40 question). Maybe a page for unseen and tht was it.

    I know the comparitive was long but if you make good arguements, use the PQE rule and keep your answer sounding fresh and fluid you should do very well.

    Dont panic tonight about length guys. Make your point and leave it. An extra page or two of rambling is an awful lot worse than someone who was smart enough to call it a day after a page and a half.

    Best of luck to all of ye tomorrow. I'll be thinkin of ye :D

    What is the PQE rule?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Bbbbolger


    PQE equals point, quote, explain. You make your point, give a relevant quotation and then explain the point with reference to the quotation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 easkey92


    How long should you do for each question in english paper 1 & 2 ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    Composition should be between 3-5 pages.
    Unseen poem, about 1-2 pages.
    You should be aiming for a good 3-4 pages for the long questions on Paper 2, more if you actually have more to say, not just waffling on.

    Remember though it's ALWAYS quality over quantity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Folks, as someone who has corrected HL English, I can't emphasise enough:

    QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY!!

    Dr. Ring wrote: »
    Dont panic tonight about length guys.
    Good advice for the LC ... and for life! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭DaveMur1


    QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY!!


    Good advice for the LC ... and for life! :pac:

    Well this thread just got dirty :D

    What if someone preferred a longer piece over a small one that's used well ????
    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    DaveMur1 wrote: »
    Well this thread just got dirty :D
    It did? :confused:

    *checks innocent face in the mirror and adjusts halo slightly*
    DaveMur1 wrote: »
    What if someone preferred a longer piece over a small one that's used well ????
    :pac:
    It's how well it's done and the end result that's more important always, not the length.

    Any wo corrector will tell you that!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 murphp


    My comparative will be 6 pages.
    My poetry will be around 4.
    I hope to write 4 pages on Hamlet.

    My teacher recommends at least 4 for them all, and over 4 for comparative


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,232 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    If you effectively deal with the question and cover what it asks, showing you know your stuff, they're not looking for reams of paper to give you that A.

    Exactly - and one of the skills they are looking for in a high scoring candidate is to get to the point, make it clearly, back it up and finish. The last thing they want is another x number of pages saying the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    spurious wrote: »
    Exactly - and one of the skills they are looking for in a high scoring candidate is to get to the point, make it clearly, back it up and finish. The last thing they want is another x number of pages saying the same thing.

    I agree completely. however, as a general rule of thumb, neither the comparative, poetry or Hamlet could be adequately answered in less than two pages. MAYBE Hamlet, but it's a stretch and it depends on the question asked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Whiskey757


    How long is each answer expected to be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Generally speaking...

    Paper 1
    50 Marks = 2 A4 pages
    15 Marks = 3/5 A4 page
    20 Marks = 4/5 A4 page
    100 Marks = 4 A4 pages

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Again I'll say it ... concentrate on quality not quantity! ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Whiskey757


    Again I'll say it ... concentrate on quality not quantity! ;)

    Haha yeah I know that but I'd rather do both :P


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 philip___


    as a rule of thumb, in any junior or leaving cert subject where there is a lot of writing invloved, 5 marks is one paragagraph. Usually i would get 4 paragraphs in an a4 page. Don't be afraid to use loads of paper....at the end of the day you dont have to pay extra for extra paper so you might as well use it!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    For gods sake go to bed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Whiskey757


    Well ye see, for my mocks I wrote like 5 or 6 pages for my Hamlet question and then I didn't have much time and my comparative was short, but people I talked to afterwards said their Hamlet question was the same but they had plenty of time, so I think my writing might just be smaller than average.


  • Registered Users Posts: 496 ✭✭bigred100


    Just write until you have nothing left to write, then you'll know you couldn't have done more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    GO TO BED!

    Stop worrying about what others wrote/write/will write. You have no idea of the quality of their answers. Divide up your time, stop when the time is up and move on....

    Oh yeah, and......GO TO BED!

    NOW!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭unknowntoown


    my comparative will be will be 2-3 pages probably 3
    hamlet will be 3-4 mad easy :)
    poetry will only be 2-3 as my teacher did feck all poetry with us, he only did boland and frost and didnt go back to the poetry course since :Z so il be studying like mad for poetry today

    for the mocks i got 43percent and that was without doing the comparative and prescribed poetry question as i didnt have them ready
    so im looking for at least a c1 or b3 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭Patriciamc93


    Sorry if this has been already posted but I couldn't find it. How long should your essays be for paper two at the moment this is what I can write

    Hamlet 4
    Comparative 5
    Poetry 4

    Does that sound ok? I am looking for a c one! :confused:

    Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    How many times have we said quality over quantity today >_<

    They're fine, take them as guidelines not aims though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,666 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    How many times have we said quality over quantity today >_<

    They're fine, take them as guidelines not aims though.

    Yeah, but you still need to write a decent amount though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭Gumbi


    AdamD wrote: »
    Yeah, but you still need to write a decent amount though.

    In general, yes. But a page short of each of the above guidelines for each part could still get an A grade. Quality over quantity. Having said that, in general, you're correct.


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