Motor Tax 10% not paying

doc_17

Think somebody else said it in another a while back and maybe it's been brought up again but here goes.......Motor tax should be slapped on to the price of diesel/petrol. Then whoever drives the most pays the most. Then there would no way to avoid paying this tax. We also wouldn't need a few hundred offices countrywide to lift this tax.

Icepick

doc_17 wrote: »

Then there would no way to avoid paying this tax.

NI

oppenheimer1

rodento wrote: »

Whats the government going to do to address this

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/onein10-drivers-refusing-to-pay-for-motor-tax-2667077.html

Would like to see parked cars clamped if they have motor tax over 3mths out of date or uninsured

Clamped? It should be impounded and crushed within a week.

keithclancy

Bens wrote: »

Well I just a few minutes ago put my car tax money towards the cost of a holiday.
Now to think of other ways of saving some of the massive amounts of tax im paying. The chances of getting away with using Green Diesel is my next research project.

Remember, a crime is only a crime if you get caught.

This reminds me of a guy who went to France to buy about a grands worth of booze, drove back with the car overloaded and ended up paying two grand to fix collapsed suspension.

He saved a fortune on the booze though.

keithclancy

Cummybaby wrote: »

To all the do-gooder squealing f***bags on this this thread. If someone chooses or cannot pay for car tax for whatever reason than that is their choice. How does it affect you? How do you know for sure your neighbors pay tax. And if they didn't what difference does it make to your life anyway.

Doesn't annoy me at all .. as long as you stay off the road.. less congestion that way.

charlemont

Bens wrote: »

Well I just a few minutes ago put my car tax money towards the cost of a holiday.
Now to think of other ways of saving some of the massive amounts of tax im paying. The chances of getting away with using Green Diesel is my next research project.

Remember, a crime is only a crime if you get caught.

Your a good man, I wish you all the best.

Bens

keithclancy wrote: »

This reminds me of a guy who went to France to buy about a grands worth of booze, drove back with the car overloaded and ended up paying two grand to fix collapsed suspension.

He saved a fortune on the booze though.

And for every 100,000 people that go to France i'll bet maybe one ends up paying two grand to fix their suspension.
I'll take my chances, but I just found out i'll be moving to London in two months anyway, so im sure i'll get away with it for 2 months.

keithclancy

Bens wrote: »

And for every 100,000 people that go to France i'll bet maybe one ends up paying two grand to fix their suspension.
I'll take my chances, but I just found out i'll be moving to London in two months anyway, so im sure i'll get away with it for 2 months.

Ah yeh ... you probably will .. or maybe not, who knows, take a gamble

AlekSmart

Perhaps slightly OT,in juristictional terms but worth noting nonetheless,is this little heads up from the Institute of Advanced Motorists newsletter this month......

IAM e-news |

Fresh crackdown on uninsured vehicles


Under the new Continuous Insurance Enforcement law – which will affect all motorists from June 20 – it is an offence to keep an uninsured vehicle, rather than just to drive when uninsured. No150a

A national advertising campaign will be launched by the Motor Insurers' Bureau to raise awareness of the law.

Vehicles with a valid Statutory Off Road Notice (SORN) will not be required to be insured.

Road Safety Minister Mike Penning said:

"Uninsured drivers are a danger on our roads, killing 160 and injuring a further 23,000 people each year, and they cost honest motorists £500 million in extra premiums. That is why we are introducing this tough new law which will leave uninsured drivers with nowhere to hide.

"Our message is clear – get insured or face a fine, court action or seeing your car seized and destroyed."

Ashton West, Chief Executive at the Motor Insurers' Bureau, said:

"The change in law is a stepping up of enforcement activity, so that not only those vehicles driven without insurance will be caught. Now the registered keeper must make sure that their vehicle is insured all the time.

"In order to make sure everyone is aware of the new scheme, a national awareness campaign will be shown on satellite and terrestrial TV channels.

"Around four percent of vehicles have no motor insurance at any given time, and this needs to change so that is why this new enforcement approach is so important."

Under the new system:

The DVLA will work in partnership with the Motor Insurers' Bureau to identify uninsured vehicles.

Motorists will receive a letter telling them that their vehicle appears to be uninsured and warning them that they will be fined unless they take action.

If the keeper fails to insure the vehicle they will be given a £100 fine.

If the vehicle remains uninsured - regardless of whether the fine is paid – further action will be taken. If the vehicle is on public land it could then be clamped, seized and destroyed. Alternatively court action could be taken, with the offender facing a fine of up to £1,000.

Seized vehicles would only be released when the keeper provided evidence that the registered keeper is no longer committing an offence of having no insurance and the person proposing to drive the vehicle away is insured to do so.

Vehicles with a valid Statutory Off Road Notice (SORN) will not be required to be insured.

The new law will run alongside the existing offence of using a vehicle with no insurance, which is enforced by the police. The police seize 180,000 vehicles each year for this offence, and offenders also face a £200 fixed penalty or a court fine of up to £5,000 and possible disqualification. The DVLA's records will be compared regularly with the Motor Insurance Database (MID) and this process will identify registered keepers of vehicles that appear to have no insurance. All drivers can check their vehicle is recorded on the MID for free

So it can be deduced that Big Brother is about to get significantly bigger in terms of motoring.

keithclancy

AlekSmart wrote: »

Perhaps slightly OT,in juristictional terms but worth noting nonetheless,is this little heads up from the Institute of Advanced Motorists newsletter this month......




So it can be deduced that Big Brother is about to get significantly bigger in terms of motoring.

Thats in the UK.

What has it got to do with Ireland ?

AlekSmart

keithclancy wrote: »

Thats in the UK.

What has it got to do with Ireland ?

Absolutely nothing...today.

Perhaps next-week/month it will have a familiar look about it..and a translation into the First Official Language

end a eknny

how do they make out that uninsured drivers are causing so many deaths surely its bad driving regardless of insurance or not

kippy

end a eknny wrote: »

how do they make out that uninsured drivers are causing so many deaths surely its bad driving regardless of insurance or not

It's a statistic and an interesting one at that.
I would assume the "danger" is in the fact that the insured are paying an extra 500 million a year to cover these incidents.

end a eknny

kippy wrote: »

It's a statistic and an interesting one at that.
I would assume the "danger" is in the fact that the insured are paying an extra 500 million a year to cover these incidents.

i would say that was annoying not a danger

kippy

end a eknny wrote: »

i would say that was annoying not a danger

Thats why I quoted it.....
That being said, it's also illegal.

Bens

keithclancy wrote: »

Thats in the UK.

What has it got to do with Ireland ?

+1

And since im now moving to the UK next month. Im quite happy to pay my car tax there, because its a reasonable charge.
So the Irish government will only be losing a months car tax from me at the end of it all. But at least they will be getting no more tax out of me. Apart from tax on rental income now when we rent the house out, but my accountant tells me there are ways around that.

Rights and wrongs of motor tax dont even come into this anymore
Far too many people have far bigger things to worry about financially and its inevitable that mortgage payments will be prioritized over motor tax.

79,713 Irish mortgage accounts or 10% of total residential mortgages in arrears for 90+ days
http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/subCategories/article_1021736_printer.shtml

That is not an insignificant number and those are people who have already gone under, there are more who are making it but just about.

Step back in time to 2006 and the root of our problems:
Working couples spend 25% of income on mortgage payments
http://www.breakingnews.ie/world/cwqlidqlkfcw/#ixzz1PiNzF0ZE

With pay gone down taxes gone up and things like household charges, water charges and the like being brought in you can be sure things are going to get alot worse especially when we start cutting into the deficit proper. We are still nearly 20 billion in deficit despite making billions of cuts in the previous budgets and this is because interest on the debts increased by approx 4 billion cancelling an entire budget out.

We are in deep and giving out about the neighbors not paying car tax is missing the big picture.

rasper

said before Im sure but car tax should be abolished and the revenue required be taken from the already over loaded taxes on fuel, pay as you consume so incentive to use public transport IF AVAILABLE what the hell is the fair logic on car tax on top of vrt/vat and fuel taxes.
oh yeas coz they can