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Irish Promotions Thread *Please read post 1* (*Mod Warning Post #3947)

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    #4382
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,905 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    showpony1 wrote: »
    you think this should be put ahead of the health of the fans?

    Have you not seen the comments on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, etc? The fans all want the event to go ahead.


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    #4383
    brianblaze
    Registered Users Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    showpony1 wrote: »
    you think this should be put ahead of the health of the fans?

    If fans are concerned, they won't go. That seems fairly obvious to me? OTT aren't their parents, they're a wrestling company that needs revenue to survive.


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    #4384
    the deftone
    Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭the deftone


    Iv two tickets for this if anybody is interested, face value, send me a pm if interested.


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    #4385
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,138 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I don't think anyone is expecting OTT themselves to cancel, it's a question of whether the government decides to.


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    #4386
    oneilla
    Registered Users Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭oneilla


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    LJ Cleary and David Starr worked a show in Milan, Italy on February 8th.

    Mat slapping ought be suspended at the very least.


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    #4387
    the eternal struggler
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭the eternal struggler


    Absolute madness if this goes ahead especially given the first death reported today and then the news that LJ and Starr just worked in Italy, **** me. Health of the fans and the performers should come first.


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    #4388
    brianblaze
    Registered Users Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    oneilla wrote: »
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    LJ Cleary and David Starr worked a show in Milan, Italy on February 8th.

    Two week incubation period on Coronavirus, so if they don't have it now, which I assume they don't, that's inconsequential.


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    #4389
    thebostoncrab
    Registered Users Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    the eternal struggler wrote: »
    Absolute madness if this goes ahead especially given the first death reported today and then the news that LJ and Starr just worked in Italy, **** me. Health of the fans and the performers should come first.

    This 100%. I’m sorry but some things are more important than wrestling. Speaking as someone has a family member that could be at risk with this, and given how infectious it is, we all need to take a step back and reduce any risk to those around us. The majority who get infected will be fine, but the issue is if they pass it on to someone that is in at risk group.

    Wrestling will still be here when this passes us. The right thing to do is postpone the show.


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    #4390
    brianblaze
    Registered Users Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    thebostoncrab wrote: »
    This 100%. I’m sorry but some things are more important than wrestling. Speaking as someone has a family member that could be at risk with this, and given how infectious it is, we all need to take a step back and reduce any risk to those around us. The majority who get infected will be fine, but the issue is if they pass it on to someone that is in at risk group.

    Wrestling will still be here when this passes us. The right thing to do is postpone the show.

    The onus though is on individuals to protect themselves and not attend if at risk or affected, the onus is not on a company to make the decision for you?

    Event insurance might cover them if the government calls it and says no events over X amount of people, but cancelling the event would totally screw OTT as well.

    Speaking as a small business owner who will quite possibly be totally funked by this over the next 12 months, I would also be positioning myself to continue until it was mandatory to not go ahead, or my insurance put me in a position to cancel at as little impact as possible.


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    #4391
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Kills me to say it but no way should this go ahead, as said above some things are more important in life.


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    #4392
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    RollieFingers wrote: »
    Kills me to say it but no way should this go ahead, as said above some things are more important in life.

    Will you still go though?


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    #4393
    thebostoncrab
    Registered Users Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭thebostoncrab


    brianblaze wrote: »
    The onus though is on individuals to protect themselves and not attend if at risk or affected, the onus is not on a company to make the decision for you?

    Event insurance might cover them if the government calls it and says no events over X amount of people, but cancelling the event would totally screw OTT as well.

    Speaking as a small business owner who will quite possibly be totally funked by this over the next 12 months, I would also be positioning myself to continue until it was mandatory to not go ahead, or my insurance put me in a position to cancel at as little impact as possible.

    It goes both ways. The responsibility is on the public to be vigilant, however you will no doubt have people who think they have no signs, will see the event as still advertised and attend, causing infection to spread. If the event isn’t on then you won’t have these people placed in close proximity with others for several hours. There was a fantastic graph doing the rounds on the impact canceling large events like this has in terms of contentment vs going ahead with them. While it will be a big financial burden, and I hope insurance and levies will help them out, it’s better to do things to stamp this out quickly so we can’t get back to normal life sooner.


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    #4394
    brianblaze
    Registered Users Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭brianblaze


    thebostoncrab wrote: »
    It goes both ways. The responsibility is on the public to be vigilant, however you will no doubt have people who think they have no signs, will see the event as still advertised and attend, causing infection to spread. If the event isn’t on then you won’t have these people placed in close proximity with others for several hours. There was a fantastic graph doing the rounds on the impact canceling large events like this has in terms of contentment vs going ahead with them. While it will be a big financial burden, and I hope insurance and levies will help them out, it’s better to do things to stamp this out quickly so we can’t get back to normal life sooner.

    I 100% understand this point of view, but my point was that if OTT cancel it, the cost to them would be detrimental.

    Wisest thing from a financial (and not moral, as that's a whole separate issue) point of view is to proceed until they are told not to, at which point event insurance will cover the costs. (If they have insurance covering mandated cancellation in place)


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    #4395
    the eternal struggler
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭the eternal struggler


    brianblaze wrote: »
    The onus though is on individuals to protect themselves and not attend if at risk or affected, the onus is not on a company to make the decision for you?

    Event insurance might cover them if the government calls it and says no events over X amount of people, but cancelling the event would totally screw OTT as well.

    Speaking as a small business owner who will quite possibly be totally funked by this over the next 12 months, I would also be positioning myself to continue until it was mandatory to not go ahead, or my insurance put me in a position to cancel at as little impact as possible.

    This is actually a fair point re: small business owners etc. What I meant earlier, which I should have clarified, is that the government should already have cancelled all mass gathering events by now. It's scandalous. I'm sure Joe and OTT are covered by insurance and that's exactly how it all should be.

    But either way, it going ahead both for fans and for the performers is ridiculous. And it's all well and good saying "it's up to people to protect themselves" but do you think any irish talent on that card is gonna speak up and say they aren't comfortable performing on that show and ruin the opportunity? Come on.

    And there'll be some fans who won't go but the vast majority absolutely will go and not give a ****.


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    #4396
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users Posts: 8,891 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Have two tickets for sale if anyone is interested, BLOCK B Row G, Seat 9 and 10.


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    #4397
    rizzla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭rizzla


    Just thinking, what will happen to those who resell tickets if this does get cancelled? Presumably, the original purchaser would be refunded and not the person who bought the ticket from the reseller.

    For those who don't wish to attend because of health fears are they able to get a refund. It's all nice OTT saying they shouldn't come, but do they have a way to get their money back if they decide that's the option for them? I couldn't see anything in the statement. There is a way to request a refund on eventbrite, is that what you should do, anyone know?


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    #4398
    showpony1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭showpony1


    rizzla wrote: »
    For those who don't wish to attend because of health fears are they able to get a refund. It's all nice OTT saying they shouldn't come, but do they have a way to get their money back if they decide that's the option for them? I couldn't see anything in the statement. There is a way to request a refund on eventbrite, is that what you should do, anyone know?


    They asked for your consideration & understanding on the matter in the statement. Seems harsh that you want to immediately hound them for refunds at this difficult time. your health is your wealth.


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    #4399
    the eternal struggler
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭the eternal struggler


    Still shocked it hasn't been cancelled yet.


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    #4400
    showpony1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭showpony1


    the eternal struggler wrote: »
    Still shocked it hasn't been cancelled yet.


    I wonder will Jon Moxley still agree to shake hands with 100s of dirty Irish lads for the Meet & Greet.


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    #4401
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    showpony1 wrote: »
    I wonder will Jon Moxley still agree to shake hands with 100s of dirty Irish lads for the Meet & Greet.

    sure just take precautions...

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    #4402
    xtal191
    Registered Users Posts: 6,370 ✭✭✭xtal191


    the eternal struggler wrote: »
    Still shocked it hasn't been cancelled yet.

    I'd be surprised if its not cancelled in the end


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    #4403
    leggo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    the eternal struggler wrote: »
    Still shocked it hasn't been cancelled yet.

    Sorry but are you an expert on this? I’m shocked you think you can make a judgement like this when even the government and HSE with millions and a wealth of resources at their disposal haven’t been able to determine it yet.

    The beginning, middle and end of it is that it would be absolute madness for OTT to commit potential financial suicide and cancel the event when Simon Harris could come out on Friday and rule that, actually, it’s fine for events like this to go ahead this weekend. They’d be mental to do so.


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    #4404
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    leggo wrote: »
    Sorry but are you an expert on this?

    The chap merely expressed how he feels. Chill.


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    #4405
    Adiboo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    Travel to US from EU banned for 30 days, so if Mox shows up to this he won't be able to get back to US

    Edit - Except the UK, so could possibly fly in and out of NI?


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    #4406
    the eternal struggler
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭the eternal struggler


    leggo wrote: »
    Sorry but are you an expert on this? I’m shocked you think you can make a judgement like this when even the government and HSE with millions and a wealth of resources at their disposal haven’t been able to determine it yet.

    The beginning, middle and end of it is that it would be absolute madness for OTT to commit potential financial suicide and cancel the event when Simon Harris could come out on Friday and rule that, actually, it’s fine for events like this to go ahead this weekend. They’d be mental to do so.

    Actually I said above, that OTT themselves shouldn't call it off but the government should be calling off mass gatherings. Typically you though with a high and mighty post.


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    #4407
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    St Patrick’s Day parades cancelled, PSG played behind closed doors tonight in Champions League only across the water pretty much. Many places across Europe banning gatherings of 1000 people or more. Dublin Comic Con postponed. Schools closed in this country. First death from the virus announced today.

    It’s not beyond doubt that someone is surprised that a show featuring international workers in a stuffy and tight enough indoor arena with 2000 people hasn’t been pulled.


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    #4408
    the eternal struggler
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭the eternal struggler


    Omackeral wrote: »
    The chap merely expressed how he feels. Chill.

    Cheers mate but I'm not shocked, the chap is just at his usual.

    Edit: Travel to the US from Europe banned now. But I'll keep my opinion to myself.


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    #4409
    cian68
    Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    With a packed Anfield tonight and I don't know how many travelling back and forth to Cheltenham, 2000 in the National Stadium feels small time to be cancelled. Travel ban will kill it though.


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    #4410
    the eternal struggler
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭the eternal struggler


    cian68 wrote: »
    With a packed Anfield tonight and I don't know how many travelling back and forth to Cheltenham, 2000 in the National Stadium feels small time to be cancelled. Travel ban will kill it though.


    The two things you've just listed aren't in this country though so really have little to do with this at all. I understand Irish people will be at both but that doesn't matter in this country because our government has no say. I'd expect all League of Ireland games to be played behind closed doors if at all this weekend. The US guys won't fly in now either, Dan Barry and Moxley won't be there.


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    #4411
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Plenary of Irish at Anfield and plenty of people from Madrid there too. Madrid is hit very heavy at the moment. These Irish folks will have been mixing in and around with them and then just back as normal.

    League of Ireland/FAI haven’t released anything concrete yet concerning the weekend except to say they’ll give updates everyday.

    I figure an indoor arena is surely worse than an outdoor venue for something like this too


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