Build moi a PC!

Solitaire

Damn it! Post FFS! :mad:

Grab a couple of these for the top exhausts Or the 1700rpm version, but those would need to be hooked to the fan controller as they'd be too noisy for normal operation at 100% speed

Most fast RAM modules aren't born that way; they're simply high-end modules guaranteed to OC that far by the manufacturer. Because 1600MHz is a common speed you'd just have to change a setting in the BIOS to enable their full speed.

And that mobo is AWOL and could really delay that build shipping The others are close to reappearing but nothing is guaranteed. HWVS are much better than Dabs for that but as you can see with the MSI, stuff does occasionally miss its ETA!

And the Rev2 comes with paste pre-applied

Tar.Aldarion

So should I get one of the redwings and one/two of those is it? Sounds good. Just hook two up to the mounts at the top of the case? I really need to look at the inside of the case!


Hmm, so maybe I should look at anothe mobo...or just order hmmm.
Thanks, you're a great help mr solitaire! /flashes bewbs


fluffy I've read you just need to use some xmp thing in bios to set it to 1600.

Tar.Aldarion

Since there are three fan controller slots and I take it the two case fans are in two of them, maybe one scythe 1700rpm and one 1200 rpm at the top?
newb question but how the feck do you attach the fans? screws, cable ties etc?

Tar.Aldarion

ok so this! assuming the top 1700 rpm one can go to the fan controller? Is it a matter of just pluggin in the fan somewhere? Can you tell this is my first big build

Solitaire

I wouldn't even be arsed with the 1700rpm ones tbh! You get tons of airflow off the slower ones with less noise and messing about, they're 140mm fans after all!

Better to keep the Xilence hooked up to the fan controller just in case the bearing wears down and starts to rattle at high speed

I'll go and check the mobo to see what fan headers it has... remember that the mobo can control the speed of any fan attached to it if the fan and fan header both support PWM!

Tar.Aldarion

ah ok 2 140s and the one xilence it is! Job done. So i take it the xilence aint great quality heh.

hard to remember stuff I don't know :pac:
/sticks fans randomly into mobo

Tar.Aldarion

mr cherryghost (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056298316) seems to think i dont need a cooler at all this looks promising
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-sabertooth-p67-tuf-review/10
wonder how long they ran it for


still the cooling might be better for 15 quid

Solitaire

Intel's stock cooler is rubbish. It might be better able to keep Sandy's heat in check compared to the last gen, but they're noisy SoBs and might seriously struggle if you OCd it to 4GHz or more.

Also bear in mind that the review was using a very high-end mobo to do the job! Cheaper mobos might be more heat-sensitive with regard to OC stability

Unregistered.

I want pics of this once its done.
slightly off-topic but what are peoples experience with the fractal with a door on the front

Tar.Aldarion

Solitaire wrote: »

Intel's stock cooler is rubbish. It might be better able to keep Sandy's heat in check compared to the last gen, but they're noisy SoBs and might seriously struggle if you OCd it to 4GHz or more.

Also bear in mind that the review was using a very high-end mobo to do the job! Cheaper mobos might be more heat-sensitive with regard to OC stability

My quiet case doesn't quiet much does it :pac: I think I'll definitely get the cooler! They are actually using the first mobo I was thinking of getting, sabertooth, **** yeah, but I don't think an extra 40-70 on a motherboard like that should be spent at all really?


I wonder, if you mount the fans with screws, do cases not vibrate against them?
/build noob


Anyway, I deposited money to buy this today and will try to figure out how to order from HVS tomorrow, thanks a lot guys, mono and sol are especially the bestest

Unregistered. wrote: »

I want pics of this once its done.
slightly off-topic but what are peoples experience with the fractal with a door on the front

I'll try to get some up yeah, I'll prob need to put up some pix to ask what goes where heh. Interested to know about the door but it looks handy.


so ta da, the finished product!




Two people have already told me they saw the thread and are ripping off my build! So you guys did good

Unregistered.

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

My quiet case doesn't quiet much does it :pac: I think I'll definitely get the cooler! They are actually using the first mobo I was thinking of getting, sabertooth, **** yeah, but I don't think an extra 40-70 on a motherboard like that should be spent at all really?


I wonder, if you mount the fans with screws, do cases not vibrate against them?
/build noob


Anyway, I deposited money to buy this today and will try to figure out how to order from HVS tomorrow, thanks a lot guys, mono and sol are especially the bestest






I'll try to get some up yeah, I'll prob need to put up some pix to ask what goes where heh. Interested to know about the door but it looks handy.


so ta da, the finished product!




Two people have already told me they saw the thread and are ripping off my build! So you guys did good

Spare me having to read the entire thread and tell me that you're planning on adding a second gfx card (750w PSU?)

Also, let me know if you need somebody to watch over you when putting it together. I'm tinkering with the idea of changing cases so would like to see fractal up close.

Tar.Aldarion

The 750 watt psu is in case I add a second 560ti along the line when it half the price, I have a 650 watt here aswell.


Sure, will let you know if I need help but i imagine I'll be fine, just never did it before and will have to have a read.

Monotype

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

They are actually using the first mobo I was thinking of getting, sabertooth, **** yeah, but I don't think an extra 40-70 on a motherboard like that should be spent at all really?

You can't put a value on looking cool. :cool:

Of course the Sabertooth could end up being a burden if that armour thing gets in the way of your components.

I agree about the Intel stock cooler. When you see it next to the better coolers you wonder how it could cool anything. While it is adequate for 4GHz, it doesn't mean it's quiet at 4GHz. HWV could do with a slightly better selection of CPU heatsinks.

Unregistered. wrote: »

I'm tinkering with the idea of changing cases so would like to see fractal up close.

It's a lot quieter than I thought it would be - you wouldn't even notice the computer being on if you've chosen quiet components.

Unregistered. wrote: »

I want pics of this once its done.
slightly off-topic but what are peoples experience with the fractal with a door on the front

I accidentally broke the door off the last case that had a door :-/ , but it does keep out the noise a bit more.

Tar.Aldarion

Ok cool, happy enough with the cooler so, hope those fans ain't too loud now. Time to try a bank transfer, no idea why they cant use cc's but whatever!

Unregistered.

If you order today, keep in mind that it might not ship til Tuesday or Wednesday. Depends how long your bank takes to transfer the money and for HWVS to get confirmation from their bank that they have received it!
So you probably won't get it next week in case you're wondering.

Tar.Aldarion

Hey yep I had thought that, I hate their slow method of payment, will take three working days to even get to them. I paid earlier

Since I've never bought a new pc, i can wait a week! All the parts are in stock now so I'm happy with that , looked like they were really delayed!

Solitaire

IIRC it takes four days for the first bank transfer to a company and then only one day for subsequent ones... unless you pay extra to get your bank to process it immediately and shave a day off those times.

Stevie_D_D

As a lad who knows very little about computers but wants to play the latest games at decent quality I might just steal this build too I was thinking of getting a new PC for €800 to €1000 so this will probably be as good as I'll get for the money One question I have (maybe a stupid one) is whether windows comes with this? Thanks

Tar.Aldarion

Solitaire wrote: »

IIRC it takes four days for the first bank transfer to a company and then only one day for subsequent ones... unless you pay extra to get your bank to process it immediately and shave a day off those times.

Damn you banks, why do they not accept CC? :S

Stevie_D_D wrote: »

As a lad who knows very little about computers but wants to play the latest games at decent quality I might just steal this build too I was thinking of getting a new PC for €800 to €1000 so this will probably be as good as I'll get for the money One question I have (maybe a stupid one) is whether windows comes with this? Thanks

Another stealer! :P

Um no it doesn't, I get windows for free so i don't need to buy it but you should buy the german one as it is cheaper than the english one. You then get a cd key that can be used to install the english one anyway.

Dublin_Gunner

Nice build, I would just like to suggest 1 thing.

Pixmania are selling the Asus GTX460 1GB for €111 at the moment - you could put 2 of these in SLI for little more than the 560ti, for MUCH better performance...

Just something to think about

Tar.Aldarion

Hey thanks for the suggestion but I already ordered, and sli'ing the 560ti's is maybe a little bit of future proofing!

Dublin_Gunner

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Hey thanks for the suggestion but I already ordered, and sli'ing the 560ti's is maybe a little bit of future proofing!

Ah I didn't spot you were going SLI

Tar.Aldarion

oh it a good while though! $$$
be good for hd 3d gaming too

Stevie_D_D

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Damn you banks, why do they not accept CC? :S


Another stealer! :P

Um no it doesn't, I get windows for free so i don't need to buy it but you should buy the german one as it is cheaper than the english one. You then get a cd key that can be used to install the english one anyway.

Thanks for the reply I've one more question now. If I was to spend an extra €80 getting the i7-2600k rather than the i5-2500k, would I get much more performance? And would it be necessary to adjust any of the other components to accommodate the i7? Forgive my cluelessness

deconduo

For gaming you would see no increase in performance, and possibly even a decrease in some games. The i7-2600k only really helps in heavily threaded tasks such as photoshop, 3d video editing and similar.

If you do a lot of that sorta thing, then it is worth the extra bit of money, and you wouldn't need to change any of the components. Otherwise I would advise against it.

Tar.Aldarion

Yep, as far as I can see the i7 is jsut a waste of money for most people, and the i5 a waste of money if you don't overclock

Dublin_Gunner

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Yep, as far as I can see the i7 is jsut a waste of money for most people, and the i5 a waste of money if you don't overclock

i7 if you do a lot of encoding, transcoding, movie making / editing etc as the extra 4 hyper threaded cores make a HUGE difference.

And I certainly wouldn;t say the 2500k is a waste if you don;t overclock - its only a few quid more than the non K, and is faster than most chips even at stock. Plus you'll always have the option to overclock in future.

Tar.Aldarion

I certainly agree that it is better for those things, that is why it is a waste for most people :P As most will not do that.

What I mean about the 2500k is that it is a waste if you never plan to OC as the 2400 would be better value.

Solitaire

Usually, although the 2400 is 200MHz slower and isn't always that much cheaper than the K.

Tea_Bag

Tar did you end up ordering your parts yet? whats 3D gaming like on your monitor and GTX 560Ti? does it struggle at times to keep up?

Fluffy88

I asked Tar just yesterday had she got it yet in the OC'ing forum and it hadn't arrived. So I guess we will all have to wait for the weekend :P

Tar.Aldarion

Tea_Bag wrote: »

Tar did you end up ordering your parts yet? whats 3D gaming like on your monitor and GTX 560Ti? does it struggle at times to keep up?

Will let you know when it's delivered and made! It was in ireland yesterday so dunno if it arrived yet as I'm not home.

I don't think I own any games that will struggle at all, I better get some!


recommendations of games you'd like me to test for you?

Fluffy88 wrote: »

I asked Tar just yesterday had she got it yet in the OC'ing forum and it hadn't arrived. So I guess we will all have to wait for the weekend :P

You sound more excited than me tbh :pac:

deconduo

Let us know how it goes and make sure to take plenty of pics

Tar.Aldarion

I'm going to make a mess :P

Unregistered.

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I'm going to make a mess :P

Let us know if you need a hand!

-Trek-

good luck with it

You'll never forget your first time :rolleyes:

kahf1_01

hey sorry to invade this. I built a PC about 2-3 years ago. So I'm really out of touch with stuff, since the tech is evolving so rapidly. And I've nearly forgotten everything.

with a 450 EURO budget (im a student) could you guys piece together something handy for me to order. I hope to game quiet a bit this summer. and Im an ati lad, not nvidia ;p but if you feel nividia are better feel free to add it in.

cheers,

Tar.Aldarion

i can see that being me, will be great fun

Fluffy88

kahf1_01 wrote: »

hey sorry to invade this. I built a PC about 2-3 years ago. So I'm really out of touch with stuff, since the tech is evolving so rapidly. And I've nearly forgotten everything.

with a 450 EURO budget (im a student) could you guys piece together something handy for me to order. I hope to game quiet a bit this summer. and Im an ati lad, not nvidia ;p but if you feel nividia are better feel free to add it in.

cheers,

Your best off creating a new thread when looking for help with your build

Tar.Aldarion

shoo him out of my thread bouncer fluffy!


you'll get better answers in a separate thread!

kahf1_01

ok ok, cool off. dont be so selfish ;p

I've made a new thread, these guys are the best tech heads in the country, so dw, we'll get some good ideas

Fluffy88

kahf1_01 wrote: »

ok ok, cool off. dont be so selfish ;p

I've made a new thread, these guys are the best tech heads in the country, so dw, we'll get some good ideas

Keep talking like that and no doubt you will get the best help that they can give :P

Tar.Aldarion

got the stuff at 8am, now to find out what screwdrivers you need to make a pc :P

deconduo

You usually just need a standard Philips head one. I have a long narrow one which does the job handy. Great for getting at awkward parts, looks a bit like this:
http://s.shld.net/is/image/Sears/00991394000?hei=600&wid=600&op_sharpen=1

Tar.Aldarion

thanks, should be some around!
magnetic wont hurt anything i take it

deconduo

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

thanks, should be some around!
magnetic wont hurt anything i take it

Yeah mine's magnetic and has never done any harm. Just dont go poking it at important parts :P Stick with the screws.

Dublin_Gunner

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

got the stuff at 8am, now to find out what screwdrivers you need to make a pc :P

If you got a decent case, none

(well, apart from having to screw the mobo down in most - still the most silly archaic way of mounting a board. Though I use thumb screws for that )

Tar.Aldarion

think i jut need ones for the mobo and cooler, do you stick a screw-in cooler and cpu on before putting a mobo into a case? /googles

deconduo

This is the way I do it:

-Put PSU, Hard drives, DVD drive in case.
-RAM on motherboard
-CPU on motherboard
-Cooler on motherboard.

Connect to PSU and test to see if it posts with that much.

-Put motherboard in case.
-Attach GPU
-Wire up everything and test again.
-Cable management.

Tar.Aldarion

Thanks, I'll follow that!


what is this 41e vistaprint voucher i got lol