new farmer

shot_ov_a

im after renting 24 acres off a family member for 5 years to start farming and get my herd number, few things im wondering about?

1. SFP hasnt been claimed on this any years can it still be got?
2. is there much into joining the aeos scheme?
3. are there any grants available for starting out as the land needs some drainage, scrub removed, fencing and a general tidy up and funds are fairly limited at the moment!
4. am i mad to even try?

funny man

would have been an idea to post these questions before you leased the land!

LivInt20

funny man wrote: »

would have been an idea to post these questions before you leased the land!

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shot_ov_a

funny man wrote: »

would have been an idea to post these questions before you leased the land!

ur probly rite

LivInt20 wrote: »

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JohnBoy

1. SFP hasnt been claimed on this any years can it still be got?

If you're a new entrant to farming, and meet certain other critera you might be able to apply to the national reserve. but not till next srping now.

Details of this year's application criteria
http://agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/singlepaymentsscheme/2011/2011NationalReserveAppForm.doc

2. is there much into joining the aeos scheme?

Fill in a form, but the closing date has passed, and it's not going to be re-opened next year.


3. are there any grants available for starting out as the land needs some drainage, scrub removed, fencing and a general tidy up and funds are fairly limited at the moment!

Not much at the moment, there's nothing left in the kitty.


4. am i mad to even try?

Pretty much, but what farmer isnt?

shot_ov_a

JohnBoy wrote: »

1. SFP hasnt been claimed on this any years can it still be got?

If you're a new entrant to farming, and meet certain other critera you might be able to apply to the national reserve. but not till next srping now.

Details of this year's application criteria
http://agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/singlepaymentsscheme/2011/2011NationalReserveAppForm.doc

2. is there much into joining the aeos scheme?

Fill in a form, but the closing date has passed, and it's not going to be re-opened next year.


3. are there any grants available for starting out as the land needs some drainage, scrub removed, fencing and a general tidy up and funds are fairly limited at the moment!

Not much at the moment, there's nothing left in the kitty.


4. am i mad to even try?

Pretty much, but what farmer isnt?

cheers thanks for that knew the sfp for this year wos over alrite! just lookin for the future! didnt know aeos wosnt goin to be ran next year :mad: thanks

ravima

get an advisor. I prefer a private lad rather than Teagasc, for teh reason that Teagasc personnel change on a regular basis and the person you deal with this year, may not be the person you need next year.

If you are in Cork/Tipp.Waterford, PM me and I'll give you the name of the lad I use. I dont want to name him publicly as I might get a ban.

shot_ov_a

ravima wrote: »

get an advisor. I prefer a private lad rather than Teagasc, for teh reason that Teagasc personnel change on a regular basis and the person you deal with this year, may not be the person you need next year.

If you are in Cork/Tipp.Waterford, PM me and I'll give you the name of the lad I use. I dont want to name him publicly as I might get a ban.

cheers im in the leitrim longford area... just got a number for a local lad today gona ring him 2moro and see

TUBBY

i deal with a lad in longford town, he very good also. pm me if interested, as for being mad, not at all.

your disadvantaged areas payment will get you round 650 euro a year for it. throw it in aeos and try to keep costs down and ya never know. you might turn a few pound.

what are u thinking of doing. fattening few cattle or sucklers.

shot_ov_a

TUBBY wrote: »

i deal with a lad in longford town, he very good also. pm me if interested, as for being mad, not at all.

your disadvantaged areas payment will get you round 650 euro a year for it. throw it in aeos and try to keep costs down and ya never know. you might turn a few pound.

what are u thinking of doing. fattening few cattle or sucklers.

il pm you now, yea il try that and see wot happens, can i sign up for aeos next year do you know?? just fattening

TUBBY

you can join the disadvantaged area scheme defo once you have a herd number. chat your advisor and see how to go about it. Like the lads said, you may even qualify for the natinoal reserve.

As far as fattening goes, at least ya have few good marts for stores around ya with mohill and granard for weanlings.

whole thing with fattening is when ya buy I reckon. If you pay dear, you are on a loser straight away. Any fool can buy the dearest bullock in the mart. its seeing the value thats the hard one.
Factory prices would have to be huge in back end and next year to account for the money given for stores this spring. Along with that, keep input costs down with fertilizer, meal etc.

shot_ov_a

TUBBY wrote: »

you can join the disadvantaged area scheme defo once you have a herd number. chat your advisor and see how to go about it. Like the lads said, you may even qualify for the natinoal reserve.

As far as fattening goes, at least ya have few good marts for stores around ya with mohill and granard for weanlings.

whole thing with fattening is when ya buy I reckon. If you pay dear, you are on a loser straight away. Any fool can buy the dearest bullock in the mart. its seeing the value thats the hard one.
Factory prices would have to be huge in back end and next year to account for the money given for stores this spring. Along with that, keep input costs down with fertilizer, meal etc.

il have a chat and see wot he comes up with, yea il be just buying afew stores and feeding them on for beef all going well, the father is a butcher so he does have a fair idea wot cattle are worth, and if they finish up all rite he wil buy and slaughter them from me!

Kovu

shot_ov_a wrote: »

cheers im in the leitrim longford area... just got a number for a local lad today gona ring him 2moro and see

Leitrim/Longford? Looks like I have a new neighbour! We use a good man over near Carrick, been with him for 10 years and has not put a foot wrong.
Always suggests stuff that would suit our land and farming practice rather than just showing us what we can do with a farm our side. So, in essence, the personal touch.