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  • 12-06-2011 10:25pm
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    Dermot2468
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    Moved into a self contained one bed flat a few weeks ago. It has a double bed and the landlord gave one set of keys.

    My girlfriend wants to move in now, just wondering what the situation with the landlord is i.e. can he ask for more money. Also is it my responsibility to pay for keys?

    The place is rented with a licence instead of a lease if that makes any difference.

    Thanks,
    Dermot


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    the_syco
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    Dermot2468 wrote: »
    self contained one bed flat
    <snip>
    The place is rented with a licence instead of a lease if that makes any difference.
    Is the "flat" just a room inside a house (as opposed to in an apartment block), and does the landlord live in the same building?


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    not even wrong
    Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭not even wrong


    Dermot2468 wrote: »
    The place is rented with a licence instead of a lease if that makes any difference.
    Are you sure?
    http://public.prtb.ie/DownloadDocs/Licensees.pdf
    Simply entitling a letting agreement a Licence does not automatically mean it will be considered a Licence and not a Lease. Neither the PRTB nor the Courts will just accept the title of a document but will look at the actual terms and substance of the agreement when assessing whether it has jurisdiction to deal with it.
    It makes a massive difference by the way.


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    Dermot2468
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    Its a room inside a house that was subdivided.

    Its definitely a licence, I didn't realise there was a difference the landlord said it was handier and more flexible than a lease.
    What's the differences between the two? I'd never heard of a licence before I signed.


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    the_syco
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    Dermot2468 wrote: »
    What's the differences between the two? I'd never heard of a licence before I signed.
    Generally, a license happens when the landlord lives in the same house, and you generally have little rights. If he doesn't live there, I don't think it's a license...


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    Dermot2468
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    Hmm, I have it in front of me and its definitely a licence under the Irish property owners association.
    So basically this is invalid as the landlord doesn't live here?


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    the_syco
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    Dermot2468 wrote: »
    Hmm, I have it in front of me and its definitely a licence under the Irish property owners association.
    So basically this is invalid as the landlord doesn't live here?
    The IPOA is a landlord organisation. Not sure if it's invalid or not, but using the word "licence" instead of "lease" is an odd one if it covers a one room bedsit in a house where the landlord doesn't live in. Almost seems that the landlord wants to confuse the bedsit occupants about their rights?

    You'd be better off ringing Threshold and asking them about it, as it sounds a bit iffy to me.


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