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What is Cloud Computing?

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    #32
    Boskonay
    Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭Boskonay


    Why must cloud be synonymous with loss of control over your server or data?

    You're looking at the wrong cloud if that's the case!


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    #33
    rolion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭rolion


    @Boskonay

    Sorry if that goes personal...i would preffer to answer me in a private way,possible around a cup of coffee... :)

    I look at this cloud wave as it used to be back in pre-2000 !Lots of money invested in to a very young technology,with big huge numbers listed as return on investments and nice predictions...

    As you are one (or only one) that favours the cloud technology,can you give me few reasons why the pre-2000 won't apply to cloud !?

    On other side,just reading some news alerts...on silliconrepublic,two companies just received grants for technology to be used in the cloud...based on what ??? on virtual returns ? on virtual forecasts ??

    sorry,i am lost...


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    #34
    Boskonay
    Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭Boskonay


    The wave you refer to was ASP which could be equated to SAAS now.

    There are lots of fundamental differences, but my experience and expertise is in the IAAS part of cloud (Infra as a service).

    In my opinion, this represents a shift from 'legacy' style hosted infrastructure, so 'cloud' style and the benefits that brings. (Which are 'real' and measurable).

    The problem is that there is hype and a 'mini bubble' around the SAAS opart of cloud, which is confusing the market entirely.

    In simple, nuts and bolts terms, cloud servers and cloud datacentres will replace onsite kit and colo/dedicated servers almost entirely over the next three to five years. In fact, no one has to do anything to even embrace it, as all the infra providers will simply be doing it by default over that period.


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    #35
    BaconZombie
    Registered Users Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


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    #36
    PerrinV2
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,332 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    So I know absolutely nothing about cloud computing

    Can anyone recommend a decent website where I can read up on it?


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    Ctrl Alt Del
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Ctrl Alt Del


    PerrinV2 wrote: »
    So I know absolutely nothing about cloud computing

    Can anyone recommend a decent website where I can read up on it?


    Begin by doing a search in your search engine and read posts,web sites,blogs and white papers.Check Youtube,there you can find lots of good educational resources.
    As we stand,there are people loving the cloud computing while there,on the other side ,are people that hate it. I'll say that majority just sits and wait to see what really going to be...

    Make up your own opinion,read the pro and the against and come up with your best educated opinion.

    PS
    Now,when i say cloud i mean servers and storage and virtual applications,no email in the cloud !!

    Have fun...


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    #38
    PerrinV2
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,332 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    Ctrl Alt Del wrote: »
    Begin by doing a search in your search engine and read posts,web sites,blogs and white papers.Check Youtube,there you can find lots of good educational resources.
    As we stand,there are people loving the cloud computing while there,on the other side ,are people that hate it. I'll say that majority just sits and wait to see what really going to be...

    Make up your own opinion,read the pro and the against and come up with your best educated opinion.

    PS
    Now,when i say cloud i mean servers and storage and virtual applications,no email in the cloud !!

    Have fun...

    Thats what I had being doing,reading articles on the web just was wondering had anyone a particular one to recommend


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    #39
    Ctrl Alt Del
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Ctrl Alt Del


    PerrinV2 wrote: »
    Thats what I had being doing,reading articles on the web just was wondering had anyone a particular one to recommend

    A particular one "good" or "bad" to recommend !? :)

    Very important with this cloud storage is to get it first and first where the data is going to be stored: EU or USA data center jurisdiction ! Get this very well and then you can move to background technology & processes !
    Don't forget that politics moves the byte through the fiber,across the ocean' floor bed ! :)

    But,to give you a neutral advice...
    One that has some effect on our shores,from here !

    ...or...

    please take your time and continue here

    Have fun and let us know your opinion !


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    #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    For years a "cloud" was on a network diagram to represent a bunch of magic stuff that just worked despite us not knowing how.


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    #41
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    NoDrama wrote: »
    For years a "cloud" was on a network diagram to represent a bunch of magic stuff that just worked despite us not knowing how.
    Who is this "Us" you speak about?


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    #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    kippy wrote: »
    Who is this "Us" you speak about?

    Maybe I worded that wrong, really just wanted state that it has being used in Diagrams to represent networks for years, such as in Forouzan's book which I used in college and many others.


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    #43
    laugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    Gmail is a true cloud service, 99% of what is being sold as the cloud is not the cloud.


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    #44
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    Cloud Computing is just another word for WAN Networking..

    in my eyes anyway


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    #45
    Eoin
    Registered Users Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Does a WAN not imply that there are still physical servers belonging to the organisation, just in far away locations?


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    #46
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    Whats Cloud ? Physical Servers Far Away, Same thing Really, Just that its a Term that has being around for a while but its now that its getting Cheaper and Tech is now at a stage where it is allowing people to use a Cloud Service,

    You were always able to play games on a Server from your win 98 Computer. but they just change it to the term Could where you could use any Computer and play games on it from a Server,

    IE i have a Mac, i could use my mac to play BF 3 on a Server with every thing Maxed out without effecting my MAC computer. as the game is being Ran on the Server on the "CLOUD Network"


    In WAN your Office PC's are all LAN networked then you would have a DLC which allows you to connect to the outside World and to other Servers using VPN.

    the cost of VPN has dropped as well..


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    #47
    Eoin
    Registered Users Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Whats Cloud ? Physical Servers Far Away, Same thing Really

    The main distinction I would make is that they're not hosted or owned by you. Maybe not a huge difference if you're using an environment like Amazon EC2 where you're still logging into it at OS level to manage it, but it is a big difference when you're using cloud as a SAAS customer.


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