Travel Service 737 Landing - Certainly not 10/10!

Wats_in_a_name

280special wrote: »

If it was a circiling approach why the sudden steep turn ? is this normal ?

The swings could have been a small bit less , but it sure as hell felt like 45' !!

Plenty of times when coming in to land I have experienced steep turns. Does it bother me. Of course not. The people flying the plane know what there doing. Not gonna put their lives at risk by doing anything dangerous.

It is obvious from your posts your a FR basher.

joegriffinjnr

Yep real alright. I think it spent a week on the ground for inspections after this

This plane actually left LCY on a barge!

Blue Punto

280special280special280special

Some times things dont go to plan you could be flying a plane or sailing a boat. its called life

Get over it

sparrowcar

joegriffinjnr wrote: »

This plane actually left LCY on a barge!

Correct


http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/09/24/216951/video-and-pictures-swiss-has-removed-damaged-avro-rj100-on-floating-pontoon-at-london-city.html

McNulty737

280special wrote: »

If it was a circiling approach why the sudden steep turn ? is this normal ?

The swings could have been a small bit less , but it sure as hell felt like 45' !! We could see ground clearly out of both sides of the aircraft and we arnt talking about a distant horizon , we are talking about the ground pretty damned close to our track ! WX wasnt that bad either, some rain but nothing too nasty.

The final part of a circle to land is flown at a low altitude (around 700 feet), at that altitude a normal rate 1 turn (around 25 degrees bank) might feel like its alot steeper than it actually is as you are closer to the ground then you are used to.

Run_to_da_hills

homerjay2005 wrote: »

indeed, most baffling post in a long time on that thread....poster needs a few ryanair landings into dublin now and then...ive had about 20 in the past 2 months and some of them are really rough.

And to date Ryanair have an impeccable safety rate with zero hull loses.

Growler!!!

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

And to date Ryanair have an impeccable safety rate with zero one hull loss.

Fixed that for ya:)

alan85

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

And to date Ryanair have an impeccable safety rate with zero hull loses.

Well, they have had one. Remember the bird strike in Italy. Lost two engines and hit the ground.

Run_to_da_hills

alan85 wrote: »

Well, they have had one. Remember the bird strike in Italy. Lost two engines and hit the ground.

I wouldn't consider a bird strike the fault of FR.

roundymac

alan85 wrote: »

Well, they have had one. Remember the bird strike in Italy. Lost two engines and hit the ground.

Brand new aircraft a write off.

Growler!!!

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

And to date Ryanair have an impeccable safety rate with zero hull loses.

I agree on the 1st part of the statement but not the 2nd.
The aircraft EI-DYG was withdrawn from service and damaged beyond economic repair = Hull loss.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I wouldn't consider a bird strike the fault of FR.

Alan was refering to the Hull loss and not who was to blame. It was not FR's fault but it is still a Hull loss.

Ryanair have one of the best safety records for an airline of their size. If you consider the amount of passengers carried and number of sectors flown it is truely remarkable there has only been one loss. It must be stated also that even though there were a number of injuries, there were no deaths and the only damage was the aircraft itself.

Su Campu

How can one thread on a (perfectly normal) landing turn into another FR bashing thread? The original landing in Cork is totally normal, I don't know what the OP was trying to highlight.

Regarding Ryanair, I believe their pilots are told to use "positive contact", i.e. make solid contact with the runway to ensure the auto-spoilers deploy asap, possibly being the difference between making an earlier runway exit, thus saving a few minutes. There's nothing wrong with it, it just means they can put on the stupid "ta dah" music earlier!

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Making "positive contact" as you mention is not exactly exclusive to Ryanair. In fact most airlines would teach it as the recommended way to touch down.

Its less so about vacating the runway quicker but rather having the aircraft touchdown within the touchdown zone.
Ryanair, unlike some of the "legacy" carriers, fly into smaller airports with much shorter runways. If a pilot wants to pull off a greaser, which means floating it in gently and so using up more runway, he risks touching down late and possibly running off the end of the runway.

Every pilot wants a smooth touchdown, its one of the few highlights of our day. But knowing where and when you can try one depends on airport and weather conditions.
Thats not to say we dont have days when we unintentionally slam them in!