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  • 15-06-2011 12:07pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭


    two nights ago i woke up in the middle of the night because my ear was buzzing. im a musician and have a touch of tinnitus anyway but it definitely wasnt that it was more like a transmission/radio signal or something because it went from high to low and back to high again just for around a minute in my right ear and then stopped.

    has anyone else had an experience like this and if so any ideas on what it might be?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    Oh ffs, are you for real? There is nothing paranormal about this. And no, I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure it was either related to your tinnitus, or a sound that is totally explainable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    omen80 wrote: »
    Oh ffs, are you for real? There is nothing paranormal about this. And no, I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure it was either related to your tinnitus, or a sound that is totally explainable.


    thanks omen....not too sure what 'ffs' are...ive actually been to the doctor and according to him it wasnt my tinnitus as what i have is very mild and wouldnt cause something like this.

    the reason ive put this in paranormal is ive heard of people picking up high frequency signals and thought this might have been exactly that....have you had a similar experience?


  • Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    lolo62 wrote: »
    thanks omen....not too sure what 'ffs' are...ive actually been to the doctor and according to him it wasnt my tinnitus as what i have is very mild and wouldnt cause something like this.

    the reason ive put this in paranormal is ive heard of people picking up high frequency signals and thought this might have been exactly that....have you had a similar experience?

    Yes, it was my tinnitus.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    great thanks....according to my doctor it wasnt...what did your doctor say the reason was?


  • Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    lolo62 wrote: »
    great thanks....according to my doctor it wasnt...what did your doctor say the reason was?

    Doc: "The high frequency sounds that you are hearing are most likely caused by your tinnitus from playing in a loud band every week. It could be a paranormal phenomenon but I just don't have any evidence to back this up............I wish it was paranormal because life would be more interesting then"

    Me: "Are you sure it's not paranormal? Because I've heard that it could be the cause?"

    Doc: "It's a valid diagnosis, but I'm going to go with your tinnitus...........as this seems to be a common symptom in people who have tinnitus"

    Me: "How sure are you?"

    Doc: "About 70/30........maybe 80/20...."

    Me: "Ok I'll take your word for it Doc..."

    Doc: "Maybe I should get a second opinion because paranormal activity really is a logical explanation for this. Hold on....."

    The doctor leaves the room and brings in some colleagues......They continue to discuss it amongst themselves for several minutes...

    Doc: "Ok, we're all in agreement that it's most likely your tinnitus, but it wouldn't be any harm to keep an eye out for alien activity around your area"

    Me: "Ok, will do. Thanks everyone"

    Everyone: "Byyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeee...."

    Me: "Bye..."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    lolo62 wrote: »
    great thanks....according to my doctor it wasnt...what did your doctor say the reason was?

    I wouldn't bother quoting a doctor or indeed a specialist as an expert in this field. The short and curlys of Tinnitus and associated brain function are simply unknown to any level approaching authoritativeness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    WOW that was brilliant :p

    thanks omen! for someone who is clearly a skeptic you have a wild imagination!

    however ill stick to the diagnosis i received from my real-life doctor thanks all the same.

    btw i play in an orchestra.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    We did have a blast or two from solar flares recently.
    The following excerpt was taken from HERE.
    Geomagnetic Activity on the Sun Influences our Thoughts
    Solar activity is known to influence human consciousness. Solar flares affect the Central Nervous System (stomach lining), all brain activity(including equilibrium), along with human behavior and all psycho-physiological (mental-emotional- physical) response. Solar flares can cause us to be nervous, anxious, worried, jittery, dizzy, shaky, irritable, lethargic, exhausted, forgetful, have heart palpitations, feel nauseous and queasy, and last but not least, to have prolonged head pressure and headaches; have you been experiencing any of the above lately?

    http://frequencytuning.blogspot.com/2011/03/more-on-how-solar-flares-effect-us.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    lolo62 wrote: »
    WOW that was brilliant :p

    thanks omen! for someone who is clearly a skeptic you have a wild imagination!

    however ill stick to the diagnosis i received from my real-life doctor thanks all the same.

    btw i play in an orchestra.

    Are high-pitch instruments in the orchestra, such as a picolo? They can be very damaging to your ears.

    Btw, I'm well open to the possibility that some things might exist beyond our scientific reasoning...............I do believe though that people go overboard with this and put everything down to paranormal phenomena.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    gbee wrote: »

    thanks gbee...ill look into that!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    omen80 wrote: »
    I do believe though that people go overboard with this and put everything down to paranormal phenomena.

    i agree with you on that but i dont believe that gives me grounds to ridicule and undermine an individuals experience


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    lolo62 wrote: »
    however ill stick to the diagnosis i received from my real-life doctor thanks all the same.

    btw i play in an orchestra.

    just to maybe offer you a bit of perspective on why you may be over-emphasising the importance of what your doctor told you.

    Tinnitus is subjective. Your doctor can't look in your ear and determine whether you have mild tinnitus or bad tinnitus. He can tell you your tinnitus is mild, only because that's the way you describe the symptoms to him.

    If I went to the same doctor and told him i was hearing a buzzing in my ears after years of playing loud music, he would almost certainly diagnose me with tinnitus, even though I don't have it. He could physically examine me all he wanted but he wouldn't be able to confirm or deny it either way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    RGDATA! wrote: »
    just to maybe offer you a bit of perspective on why you may be over-emphasising the importance of what your doctor told you.

    Tinnitus is subjective. Your doctor can't look in your ear and determine whether you have mild tinnitus or bad tinnitus. He can tell you your tinnitus is mild, only because that's the way you describe the symptoms to him.

    If I went to the same doctor and told him i was hearing a buzzing in my ears after years of playing loud music, he would almost certainly diagnose me with tinnitus, even though I don't have it. He could physically examine me all he wanted but he wouldn't be able to confirm or deny it either way.

    i went to the doctor just to make sure there wasnt any damage (good hearing fundamental to my job) and there wasnt....i know what i experienced was coming from an external source because that was my inital gut feeling.

    the reason im putting so much emphasis on what the doctor said is to make it clear that this is something i have been skeptical about and its not just coming from my vivid naive airy-fairy believe everything imagination....if you know what i mean?

    I have been playing music for years and my tinnitus like repetitive strain constant dull ring in both ears. This was like a modem dialling or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    There is so much RF clutter about that it would be impossible to pin this down, a modem dialling is a very resonant frequency and would carry far.

    I'm currently experimenting with receiving signals so low that receiving equipment and sounds cards recording them have to be as near 0dB ~ nothing can be physically heard ~ but the signals exist and can be decoded in software.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    gbee wrote: »
    There is so much RF clutter about that it would be impossible to pin this down, a modem dialling is a very resonant frequency and would carry far.

    I'm currently experimenting with receiving signals so low that receiving equipment and sounds cards recording them have to be as near 0dB ~ nothing can be physically heard ~ but the signals exist and can be decoded in software.


    thanks gbee...it had the same characteristics as a modem frequency but wasnt that because it was really loud and 'in' my ear if that makes sense...

    i think youre right about pinning it down...i really appreciate your input though and will look into the solar flares and other possibilities along the lines of equipment you mentioned etc..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Pinklady11


    hi lolo,

    How strange that I came across this topic today, I had a similar experience last night. I was just sitting in the kitchen having a cup of tea, there was no tv or radio on and kids were in bed asleep when suddenly I started hearing a strange electronic sound in my ear. It only lasted about a minute and then just faded out. I have no history of tinnitus although I used to play in bands, it's been a number of years since I last did. Would be interesting to find an explantation as to what it was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    lolo62 wrote: »
    thanks gbee...it had the same characteristics as a modem frequency but wasnt that because it was really loud and 'in' my ear if that makes sense...

    It sounds a bit like you're contradicting yourself a bit - you say it was "in" your ear but earlier you said your gut feeling told you it was an external source. Besides that, the fact that you went to your doctor must mean that you thought there might be something physically wrong with you?
    Btw, you said that your doctor said it's not tinnitus, but did he/she offer any suggestions to what it could be?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I tend to rule out ghosts in such situations because they just seem so improbable. That and there is no reason to suspect them of making buzzing noises. I'd also rule out medical conditions whose symptoms include hearing buzzing noises as this seems too obvious and rational for my liking.

    I remember hearing a story recently about a demon cat and it sounds like what you are describing. Here is the link. The short version is that the witness heard a strange buzzing sound and when she looked out the window, she saw a cat staring intently at her. It looked normal except for red eyes and was clearly the source of the buzzing. It may have looked a bit like the picture below:

    flying-demon-cat0-1298553352.jpg


    The origins of such demon cats is unknown although some suspect that they may be orphaned familiars. These are cats that belonged to witches but most witches have been burned by now and it's reasonable to suspect that their cats would still wander around spooking people.


    If this was an isolated incident, I don't think you have anything to worry about as it has probably moved on to another house. If you hear it again, go to your window and look outside. Shine a flashlight and keep an eye out for a pair of bright red eyes. You can get rid of it by throwing some stones or firing an airsoft gun. These cats aren't ethereal so stones and pellets should scare it away.

    If you decide to adopt, make sure to take it to the vet first so that it gets its shots and you should also get it neutered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    Pinklady11 wrote: »
    hi lolo,

    How strange that I came across this topic today, I had a similar experience last night. I was just sitting in the kitchen having a cup of tea, there was no tv or radio on and kids were in bed asleep when suddenly I started hearing a strange electronic sound in my ear. It only lasted about a minute and then just faded out. I have no history of tinnitus although I used to play in bands, it's been a number of years since I last did. Would be interesting to find an explantation as to what it was.

    hi pinklady...thanks for sharing....ive been looking around on the internet and it seems a lot of people have had the exact same experience....specifically just one ear and lasting only about a minute nothing electronic on or even nearby...

    another poster suggested solar flares as they can have a huge effect on an energetic level and if it is this our systems are 'being recalibrated to enable resonance at a much higher frequency'!

    maybe its a thread for the spiritual forum...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 253 ✭✭Pinklady11


    Yeah it was only in my right ear. I'm not saying that it is paranormal but it was a bit odd. The solar flare theory sounds interesting.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭dyer


    maybe this might be of interest to you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome

    another discussion about it here


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    dyer wrote: »
    maybe this might be of interest to you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome

    another discussion about it here


    thanks dyer! i had a look at the 'exploding head syndrome' ( so funny thats whats its called :p) i have been trying to lucid dream lately so maybe it was the beginning or end of an outer body experience...

    the avalon discussion is great i hadnt come across it....nice to know so many people are experiencing the same thing..

    i stuck the question up on paranormal because according to a friend whos big on conspiricay theories i was being 'scanned'...i had never heard of this before and thought it sounded a tad paranoid but according to a lot of alledged 'whistle-blowers' these day these kinds of things do go on...

    im not saying by any means thats what it was but its an interesting theory!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭dyer


    scanned by whom? :)

    its a funny name for an affliction alright! a friend of mine perceives a high pitched sound when there's thunder in the air.


  • Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭omen80


    dyer wrote: »
    scanned by whom? :)

    its a funny name for an affliction alright! a friend of mine perceives a high pitched sound when there's thunder in the air.

    Wait a minute, you're suggesting that it's not paranormal. I was given a warning for the same. Does this mean that you should be given a warning?????


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    omen80 wrote: »
    Wait a minute, you're suggesting that it's not paranormal. I was given a warning for the same. Does this mean that you should be given a warning?????
    If you have a problem with a post, report it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Timfy


    Tinnitus all the way.

    I suffer quite badly from it (years of wind noise from motorcycle riding). For me it can range from a low frequency hum to a high frequency ringing, covering all points in between.

    I found that if I lay on my left arm, I get a similar effect to what you are describing... I am guessing that it is related to a slight constriction of the arteries and therefore a slight change in blood pressure.

    I also find that if the BH is watching the TV or listening to the radio, if I am just out of earshot, my tinnitus will resonate with any speech, music etc.

    I have worked in the radio telecoms industry and can assure you that the human body is a pretty crap receiver, being just a big ol' bag of soggy stuff! We need to consume sodium (salt) and potassium just so as our nervous system can conduct fairly large voltages (well into the tens of millivolts and up to 150 millivolt). Stick a few lumps of metal in there (old style amalgam fillings worked a treat) and you do have a rudimentary, untuned receiver, but most story's of granny's teeth picking up RTE1 are anecdotal!

    @gbee... What equipment are you using to get those kind of specs? I also experiment with radio propagation and have VLF project on the go. (no tinfoil hats required... my two areas of interest with VLF are submarine comms and the Earths "heartbeat", a vlf signature given off by the Earth)

    Main problem is that these signals are not far above DC. I have built a transconvertor that receives DC-1kHz and then ups the output to about 0.5MHz, I then receive this via my 2 trusty Kenwood R-5000s. No need for ultra low noise levels... at 0db you are trying to receive and amplify less than 1uV, the noise from a single lightbulb would anhilalate that... I take two signals a few tens of Hz apart, run them through DSP and subtract noise found in both samples, leaving only the difference to be amplified, simples innit!!!

    Oops, reading the above maybe we should take this to hobby radio instead!

    No trees were harmed in the posting of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    dyer wrote: »
    scanned by whom? :)

    its a funny name for an affliction alright! a friend of mine perceives a high pitched sound when there's thunder in the air.


    according to him either ETs or the 'controllers' and i suppose if you listen to enough of the info (disinfo?) from alledged whistleblowers thats circulating at the moment it would be easy enough to come to that conclusion...

    wow the thunder thing is a new one....ill look into that also!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    Timfy wrote: »
    Tinnitus all the way.

    I suffer quite badly from it (years of wind noise from motorcycle riding). For me it can range from a low frequency hum to a high frequency ringing, covering all points in between.

    I found that if I lay on my left arm, I get a similar effect to what you are describing... I am guessing that it is related to a slight constriction of the arteries and therefore a slight change in blood pressure.

    I also find that if the BH is watching the TV or listening to the radio, if I am just out of earshot, my tinnitus will resonate with any speech, music etc.

    I have worked in the radio telecoms industry and can assure you that the human body is a pretty crap receiver, being just a big ol' bag of soggy stuff! We need to consume sodium (salt) and potassium just so as our nervous system can conduct fairly large voltages (well into the tens of millivolts and up to 150 millivolt). Stick a few lumps of metal in there (old style amalgam fillings worked a treat) and you do have a rudimentary, untuned receiver, but most story's of granny's teeth picking up RTE1 are anecdotal!

    @gbee... What equipment are you using to get those kind of specs? I also experiment with radio propagation and have VLF project on the go. (no tinfoil hats required... my two areas of interest with VLF are submarine comms and the Earths "heartbeat", a vlf signature given off by the Earth)

    Main problem is that these signals are not far above DC. I have built a transconvertor that receives DC-1kHz and then ups the output to about 0.5MHz, I then receive this via my 2 trusty Kenwood R-5000s. No need for ultra low noise levels... at 0db you are trying to receive and amplify less than 1uV, the noise from a single lightbulb would anhilalate that... I take two signals a few tens of Hz apart, run them through DSP and subtract noise found in both samples, leaving only the difference to be amplified, simples innit!!!

    Oops, reading the above maybe we should take this to hobby radio instead!

    thanks timfy!

    im pretty certain it wasnt my tinnitus because that has been the same for years and a fairly mild case compared to what ive heard other people describe.

    there also seems to be a lot of people out there describing the same thing in terms of it being an isolated incident etc.

    the stuff your describing above sounds fascinating...i know we're off topic here but can you say a bit more about the 'earths heartbeat'...? maybe it needs a thread of its own...ive heard the earth resonates at the pitch of f/f#....?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭meryem


    Hi lolo62! I feel your case is just a natural body behavior one. If a person keeps laying over one side of his body while keeping pressure of his ear it can lead to such situations. For your belief you can read the below given text which is taken from http://www.yogaclimbing.com/yogaforbalance.htm

    "The vestibular system is a fluid-filled network of canals and chambers within the inner ear, that help us keep our balance and sense how the body is moving in relationship to gravity. When we move our head, there is a corresponding movement of fluid in the ear. Vestibular receptors in the fluid send messages to the parts of the brain involved in maintaining a steady gaze and balance. This is why when one has a middle ear infection, it's possible to lose all sense of balance. We use our middle ear for our sense of equilibrium. Training the vestibular system increases balance and inner awareness, and we can rely less on sight."

    Anyway your medical history with ear problem also seems to be supportive for the said problem you faced. I see you should try to ignore the incident but be careful to change sides while sleeping at night. :)


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