Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12

Kess73

amiable wrote: »

Defour to Porto for 6 million? Is that right?

And Turan to Atletico for 12m euro. Where have you been to miss all that news?:D Crazy to think that €12m transfer is the biggest transfer deal ever in Turkish football. The same money would not get you his leg if he was playing in England.

Enjoy your trip over to the game?

Luckycharms_74

Danish reports says #LFC could offer Poulsen + cash for stoke's Ryan Shawcross sporten.dk/fodbold/liverp…

WTF.... Shawcross no thank you

amiable

Kess73 wrote: »

And Turan to Atletico for 12m euro. Where have you been to miss all that news?:D Crazy to think that €12m transfer is the biggest transfer deal ever in Turkish football. The same money would not get you his leg if he was playing in England.

Enjoy your trip over to the game?

Still coming round after it:o

I'm getting old mate. I'll be right by saturday hopefully:)
I'd love to go to the Emirates but i think that would be pushing it.

I knew Turan went for 12 mill. Absolute bargain IMO.
Can't believe Arsenal didn't buy him

YouTookMyName

Degens medical photo at QPR has just been released -

opr

Kess make sure you sitting down before you read further.

From twitter

Several newspapers are running the Hazard to Arsenal for £26million story 2m

Opr

ardinn

opr wrote: »

Kess make sure you sitting down before you read further.

From twitter



Opr

Would make perfect sense, to replace fab with a few quid left over - would be great business altogether.

El Inho

perhaps favourite to be the full stop signing?



or for the marquee signing :P

Looks good in red.

donfers

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Maybe when he says exciteable he means they have spastic over-reactions? I'm sure you can thing of few people who are like that...

yes of course


i dispute the majority of liverpool fans thing that's all, however i do understand that we remember the crazy stuff and that creates a bias in terms of our perception of how many exciteable types there were


football analysis is really really ****e in britain and ireland, no thought goes into it and it changes by the day, there's no integrity in it, it's just cliches and instant absolute opinions that are replaces by instant absolute opinions the next day depending on what happened in the game that finished 5 minutes ago - guys like henderson and de gea are already being written off, if they play well next week they'll be class signings - the truth is we might only make a tentative estimate as to their relative worth at the end of the season but the saturation of football coverage means we want our fill every day and thus a lot of rubbish is spouted because not a lot changes in a day or so or over a few games but the pundits aren't paid to hold their tongues until the end of the season, a lot of them are deliberatly trollish to provoke reactions and get coverage......................................contrast all this with the football coverage in spain for example where they have dedicated sports newspapers rather than cluttering up all the papers....where the tv and radio analysis of football is much more intelligent and insightful, i mean these guys actually analyse football and actually tell us stuff that isn't completely obvious or cliched - the whole package of how they present the football coverage is much better too, more interesting and more varied with more camera angles and behind the scenes stuff as well as on pitch detail like ultra slow-no's and transcripts of what the players say, here the pattern hasn't changed, highlights then interviews then "punditry" - rinse and repeat

way off topic, sorry, ummmmm................on liverpool i hope we have a buyback clause on ayala although it's more common on the continent as i think he'll do well, it'll be interesting to see how he gets on in the premier league or if he even gets his game, i'd also loan out a few more like

wilson (not to rangers, premier league or championship)
shelvey or spearing (we may have to keep 1 as cover, i'd consider a permanent deal for spearing if 3 million plus, to premier league team if loan)
ecclestone
pacheco
sama
coady
robinson
morgan
ngoo
sterling

.....league 1 or higher preferably

paddy kerins

donfers wrote: »

yes of course


i dispute the majority of liverpool fans thing that's all, however i do understand that we remember the crazy stuff and that creates a bias in terms of our perception of how many exciteable types there were


football analysis is really really ****e in britain and ireland, no thought goes into it and it changes by the day, there's no integrity in it, it's just cliches and instant absolute opinions that are replaces by instant absolute opinions the next day depending on what happened in the game that finished 5 minutes ago - guys like henderson and de gea are already being written off, if they play well next week they'll be class signings - the truth is we might only make a tentative estimate as to their relative worth at the end of the season but the saturation of football coverage means we want our fill every day and thus a lot of rubbish is spouted because not a lot changes in a day or so or over a few games but the pundits aren't paid to hold their tongues until the end of the season, a lot of them are deliberatly trollish to provoke reactions and get coverage......................................contrast all this with the football coverage in spain for example where they have dedicated sports newspapers rather than cluttering up all the papers....where the tv and radio analysis of football is much more intelligent and insightful, i mean these guys actually analyse football and actually tell us stuff that isn't completely obvious or cliched - the whole package of how they present the football coverage is much better too, more interesting and more varied with more camera angles and behind the scenes stuff as well as on pitch detail like ultra slow-no's and transcripts of what the players say, here the pattern hasn't changed, highlights then interviews then "punditry" - rinse and repeat

way off topic, sorry, ummmmm................on liverpool i hope we have a buyback clause on ayala although it's more common on the continent as i think he'll do well, it'll be interesting to see how he gets on in the premier league or if he even gets his game, i'd also loan out a few more like

wilson (not to rangers, premier league or championship)
shelvey or spearing (we may have to keep 1 as cover, i'd consider a permanent deal for spearing if 3 million plus, to premier league team if loan)
ecclestone
pacheco
sama
coady
robinson
morgan
ngoo
sterling

.....league 1 or higher preferably

I think Suso should be sent out on loan as well. League 1 club. I think the Championships would be a bit rough for him

NukaCola

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Danish reports says #LFC could offer Poulsen + cash for stoke's Ryan Shawcross sporten.dk/fodbold/liverp…

WTF.... Shawcross no thank you

That would be a good signing plus getting rid of a turnip....good business IMO...

Why would you be against signing Shawcross and getting rid of Poulson?

mada999

donfers wrote: »

yes of course


i dispute the majority of liverpool fans thing that's all, however i do understand that we remember the crazy stuff and that creates a bias in terms of our perception of how many exciteable types there were


football analysis is really really ****e in britain and ireland, no thought goes into it and it changes by the day, there's no integrity in it, it's just cliches and instant absolute opinions that are replaces by instant absolute opinions the next day depending on what happened in the game that finished 5 minutes ago - guys like henderson and de gea are already being written off, if they play well next week they'll be class signings - the truth is we might only make a tentative estimate as to their relative worth at the end of the season but the saturation of football coverage means we want our fill every day and thus a lot of rubbish is spouted because not a lot changes in a day or so or over a few games but the pundits aren't paid to hold their tongues until the end of the season, a lot of them are deliberatly trollish to provoke reactions and get coverage......................................contrast all this with the football coverage in spain for example where they have dedicated sports newspapers rather than cluttering up all the papers....where the tv and radio analysis of football is much more intelligent and insightful, i mean these guys actually analyse football and actually tell us stuff that isn't completely obvious or cliched - the whole package of how they present the football coverage is much better too, more interesting and more varied with more camera angles and behind the scenes stuff as well as on pitch detail like ultra slow-no's and transcripts of what the players say, here the pattern hasn't changed, highlights then interviews then "punditry" - rinse and repeat

way off topic, sorry, ummmmm................on liverpool i hope we have a buyback clause on ayala although it's more common on the continent as i think he'll do well, it'll be interesting to see how he gets on in the premier league or if he even gets his game, i'd also loan out a few more like

wilson (not to rangers, premier league or championship)
shelvey or spearing (we may have to keep 1 as cover, i'd consider a permanent deal for spearing if 3 million plus, to premier league team if loan)
ecclestone
pacheco
sama
coady
robinson
morgan
ngoo
sterling

.....league 1 or higher preferably

you are only as good as your last game!!

Leiva

Kess whatever you do don't go over to the Arsenal superthread .

Kess73

mixednuts wrote: »

Kess whatever you do don't go over to the Arsenal superthread .

Straps on bonebiter and prepares to have a warp spasm









*2000AD reader of yesteryear should get that.:D

mixednuts

mixednuts wrote: »

Kess whatever you do don't go over to the Arsenal superthread .

It's Hazardous

Kess73

rarnes1 wrote: »

It's Hazardous

I think the mods should give Fla a two season ban for getting the hopes of the Arsenal's fans up with his paper talk.:D

Luckycharms_74

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Danish reports says #LFC could offer Poulsen + cash for stoke's Ryan Shawcross sporten.dk/fodbold/liverp…

WTF.... Shawcross no thank you

Shawcross would be a decent buy imo, much better than spending silly money on Cahill.

Luckycharms_74

NukaCola wrote: »

That would be a good signing plus getting rid of a turnip....good business IMO...

Why would you be against signing Shawcross and getting rid of Poulson?

I'm all for getting rid of Poulson , but I just don't think Shawcross is the best that we could get for CB. I know he is only 23 and would cost about £12m which could turn out to be a bargain in years to come. I'm just not fully convinced of him. Please convince me

NabyLadistheman

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

I'm all for getting rid of Poulson , but I just don't think Shawcross is the best that we could get for CB. I know he is only 23 and would cost about £12m which could turn out to be a bargain in years to come. I'm just not fully convinced of him. Please convince me

Godin FTW

<<<<<<<<<<<< Finally got round to changing my Username :pac:

danniemcq

seen this on the bottom of the page earlier....



Can't see it getting to many clicks

Leiva

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Godin FTW

<<<<<<<<<<<< Finally got round to changing my Username :pac:

How do you go about that?

mixednuts = far too many beers one night

5starpool

mixednuts wrote: »

How do you go about that?

mixednuts = far too many beers one night

Subscription, or else balckmailing an admin are the only ways to do this I believe.

NabyLadistheman

mixednuts wrote: »

How do you go about that?

mixednuts = far too many beers one night

Pay a €5 subscription for a month then you can through the helpdesk. Mixednuts is grand, I wouldnt bother

murpho999

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Pay a €5 subscription for a month then you can through the helpdesk. Mixednuts is grand, I wouldnt bother

So now we know that Torres cost Carroll +£15m +€5 to Boards. Scandalous that.

flahavaj

Kess73 wrote: »

I think the mods should give Fla a two season ban for getting the hopes of the Arsenal's fans up with his paper talk.:D

They needed the boost.:D

I was worried about you when I saw the rumour though, glad you're OK.:pac:

Kess73

mixednuts wrote: »

How do you go about that?

mixednuts = far too many beers one night

Far too many of something else methinks. :pac:

Kess73

flahavaj wrote: »

They needed the boost.:D

I was worried about you when I saw the rumour though, glad you're OK.:pac:

No need to worry about me. Would imagine that about 75% of all talk about Hazard on the net comes from some of the shyte I say about him.:D

Kess73

mike65 wrote: »

Heh, no doubt he'll still be persona non-grata over at RAWK

Kess73 wrote: »

He is still that with a lot of locals let alone in the bastion of contemplation and tolerance that is RAWK.


I was tempted to call it a mecca but some wag might have said that the english translation of the proper name of that city would suit the journo in question. :pac:

Actually I am now quite surprised at the thread on that topic on RAWK. Not the kneejerkathon I was expecting, and most of the comments are pretty much spot on as to some of the stuff that the journo in question has done/written in the past, especially when he was with the Echo.

slingerz

Cant believe people still dont see Charlie Adam as a definite starter for Liverpool. IMO he's going to play every game when fit. It does appear that Aqualini and Meireles are deemed to be surplus to requirements if the right offer comes through

Dont be at yourself

slingerz wrote: »

Cant believe people still dont see Charlie Adam as a definite starter for Liverpool. IMO he's going to play every game when fit. It does appear that Aqualini and Meireles are deemed to be surplus to requirements if the right offer comes through

If fit, I reckon he'll play around 30 league games for us this year. Not sure I'd fancy him alongside Lucas in games where we're under a lot of pressure.

opr

Looks like Chelsea are chasing Mata now Marca claims Valencia rebuffed an offer from Chelsea totalling €25million (£21.9million) this week.

Opr

Dont be at yourself

opr wrote: »

Looks like Chelsea are chasing Mata now Marca claims Valencia rebuffed an offer from Chelsea totalling €25million (£21.9million) this week.

Opr

That's a bit bizarre. Malouda seems tailor-made for the left-side of AVB's 4-3-3. Not sure where Mata would fit in.

redzerdrog

its great to have options for a change

in one way id love to see the football this team could play.

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reina

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johnson----carra

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agger---enrique

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lucas

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aquilani

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Adam

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suarez

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downing

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kuyt

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with kuyt and suarez playing in either position tbh

but then i think of the trouble that carroll could cause arsenals defence and its impossible to leave him out

ShamoBuc

redzerdrog wrote: »

its great to have options for a change

in one way id love to see the football this team could play.

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reina

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johnson----carra

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agger---enrique

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lucas

---

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aquilani

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Adam

---

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suarez

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downing

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kuyt

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with kuyt and suarez playing in either position tbh

but then i think of the trouble that carroll could cause arsenals defence and its impossible to leave him out

Given the way the arsenal team are fairly decimated ( injuries and suspensions) the back 4 will not look forward to seeing Carroll in the middle of them and downing and suarez bearing down on them, he kinda has to start I'd say.

flahavaj

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

That's a bit bizarre. Malouda seems tailor-made for the left-side of AVB's 4-3-3. Not sure where Mata would fit in.

Malouda is good, but Mata is potentially brilliant. Malouda was poor enough last season. They also need more than one option for the wide areas, Malouda is really the only true wide player they have, possibly Sturridge too.

The Chessplayer

redzerdrog wrote: »

its great to have options for a change

in one way id love to see the football this team could play.

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reina

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johnson----carra

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agger---enrique

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lucas

---

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aquilani

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Adam

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Would people see Johnson starting this one ahead of Kelly? Also, no chance Aquilani will feature until after the window closes. If an Italian club doesn't come in for him then I think we'll see him gradually get some game time, as...let's face facts...Adam is no Aquilani.

Will be interesting to see who Stevie comes in for when he's back.

Dont be at yourself

flahavaj wrote: »

Malouda is good, but Mata is potentially brilliant. Malouda was poor enough last season. They also need more than one option for the wide areas, Malouda is really the only true wide player they have, possibly Sturridge too.

I agree, Mata is the better player. I'd argue he's not the better player for AVB's Chelsea, though. If they're spending 30 million, I'd expect them to go out and buy an out-and-out wing forward.

witnessrenegade

Hope to feck Carroll stack sticking in a few goals/assists. My faith in him is getting smaller by the day

emc2

flahavaj wrote: »

Malouda was poor enough last season. T

Chelsea top scorer in the league last season, I wish we had a few player in poor form that would score 14 goals....

rossc007

flahavaj wrote: »

Malouda is good, but Mata is potentially brilliant. Malouda was poor enough last season. They also need more than one option for the wide areas, Malouda is really the only true wide player they have, possibly Sturridge too.

Short memory fla, he tore up the league at the start of last season. Finished on 13 league goals, I'd be fairly happy if Downing could pull that kind of return! I don't think he's had a better goal scoring record for Chelsea than he did last season.

ShamoBuc

rossc007 wrote: »

Short memory fla, he tore up the league at the start of last season. Finished on 13 league goals, I'd be fairly happy if Downing could pull that kind of return! I don't think he's had a better goal scoring record for Chelsea than he did last season.

I'd be very happy indeed if Downing finishes with 13 or 14 goals.

djPSB

witnessrenegade wrote: »

Hope to feck Carroll stack sticking in a few goals/assists. My faith in him is getting smaller by the day

So after 6 Premier league games and 2 goals, you have lost faith in him. He played well v Arsenal IMO.

Maybe after 60 games, it might be better to judge him.

Masked Man

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

That's a bit bizarre. Malouda seems tailor-made for the left-side of AVB's 4-3-3. Not sure where Mata would fit in.

flahavaj wrote: »

Malouda is good, but Mata is potentially brilliant. Malouda was poor enough last season. They also need more than one option for the wide areas, Malouda is really the only true wide player they have, possibly Sturridge too.

emc2 wrote: »

Chelsea top scorer in the league last season, I wish we had a few player in poor form that would score 14 goals....

rossc007 wrote: »

Short memory fla, he tore up the league at the start of last season. Finished on 13 league goals, I'd be fairly happy if Downing could pull that kind of return! I don't think he's had a better goal scoring record for Chelsea than he did last season.

Chelsea fan here, Malouda is terrible. He hurts the team a lot more than he helps us. He does absolutely nothing defensively and looks like he doesn't give a **** when he's attacking. Him and Kalou were like poison to every good move Chelsea had against Stoke.

flahavaj

rossc007 wrote: »

Short memory fla, he tore up the league at the start of last season. Finished on 13 league goals, I'd be fairly happy if Downing could pull that kind of return! I don't think he's had a better goal scoring record for Chelsea than he did last season.

A decent return for a guy playing as one of a front three in the second best team in the land last season, but nothing eart shattering either. I'm just going by what most Chelsea fans say -he regularly drives them insane in his general play. He is certainly not a good enough reason not to be chasing mata anyway.

The Chessplayer

djPSB wrote: »

Maybe after 60 games, it might be better to judge him.

Should be able to make our minds up on him by Christmas. Haven't been too impressed with him so far, but like you say it's too early to say.

flahavaj

The Chessplayer wrote: »

Should be able to make our minds up on him by Christmas. Haven't been too impressed with him so far, but like you say it's too early to say.

He's a young player you may not see the best of him for a few years.

Why do football fans never take a long term view of things? Ye spent £35m on him as an investment for the next decade not the next 3 months.

Chucky the tree

flahavaj wrote: »

He's a young player you may not see the best of him for a few years.

Why do football fans never take a long term view of things? Ye spent £35m on him as an investment for the next decade not the next 3 months.

He was bought as a replacement for Torres now, not in 3 years time.

sweetie

flahavaj wrote: »

He's a young player you may not see the best of him for a few years.

Why do football fans never take a long term view of things? Ye spent £35m on him as an investment for the next decade not the next 3 months.

I agree. Drogba who joined chelsea at an older age than carrol to lfc scored 16 goals in each of his first two seasons in total. A good start but nothing compared to what he did the following year (33)

K-9

Chucky the tree wrote: »

He was bought as a replacement for Torres now, not in 3 years time.

In fairness the team wasn't really set up to his strengths until now. He has scored a few in pre season.

Chucky the tree

sweetie wrote: »

I agree. Drogba who joined chelsea at an older age than carrol to lfc scored 16 goals in each of his first two seasons in total. A good start but nothing compared to what he did the following year (33)

He started 18 games in his first season and 20 in his second season.

K-9 wrote: »

In fairness the team wasn't really set up to his strengths until now. He has scored a few in pre season.

That's why he needs to start scoring/contributing by Christmas. We don't have a lot of time to let this guy develop while he starts every game.

flahavaj

Chucky the tree wrote: »

He was bought as a replacement for Torres now, not in 3 years time.

So you don't see any point in buying young talent and developing them into top class players over time? You want the finished article all the time?