Pizza in 30 mins Garda in ????

Bosco boy

SparKing wrote: »

I like to think I am reasonable and as a reasonable person I expect a reasonable response to crimes being committed, such as: showing up to the scene of a crime, treating people with respect and courtesy rather than indifference when they have been the victim of a crime, making sure that known criminals are being monitored or locked up to prevent people from being murdered (Manuel Riedo springs to mind).

Ask yourself the question, who decides to become a Garda?
People who want to uphold the law and protect the public.
People who covet a bit of power.
People whose family have been Gardaí.
People who want a nice soft job (for the most part, I'm sure most would agree), from which you can retire after 30 years of service with a nice pension.
I know a few Gardaí, lovely guys and girls, but most of them seem to fit into the latter descriptions rather than the first.

and you are an authority on this because?

Here is the funny thing about this , but i come from a family of Garda , my uncle was a garda who made detective, his father was a garda also. I grew up wanting to be a garda. If i met a guard i would always be discreet and have respect for them. I do believe they have a tough job.

But If you look at the garda as a service alone its ****. I for one have now learned i cannot depend on them. Which in itself is sad, i wish it was otherwise.

mackg

ascanbe wrote: »

Well, if i was a guard, you'd have to pay me a lot more than they're currently paid to convince me to wade into a fight that involved machetes, armed only with my trusty baton.
You'd need a properly armed unit to be deployed to make a difference there.
It would be different if it was a case of someone with a lethal weapon attacking innocent people; if there are people intent on fighting each other armed with machetes, though, i wouldn't blame any gardai on call from giving it a wide berth until the dust had settled.

Its not as if people become cops not knowing what the job entails or that they are not told how much they will earn. When you join you accept the responsibilities that come with the position same as any other job. If you don't want tyo deal with this kind of situation for the amount of money cops get don't join.

As far as the armed response unit goes there is no reason the guards can't come out assess the situation and call in armed units if needs be as opposed to taking the route of total apathy.

Finnbar01

If you want to garda to come out, in particularly for a burglary in progress try this.

A friend of mine lives on a rough estate. One night, he heard some glass break and looking out the window, he see a thug trying to break into his neighbour’s house.

He dials 999 for local garda

Garda: Hello garda station how may I help?

Freind: I want to report a burglary in progress..... hahahahaha.

Garda: hmmm, ok what’s the address.

Friend: Hahahahaha... sorry can’t stop laughing ....hahahahahaha.

Garda: Is this a wind up because if it is you can be done for wasting garda time.

Friend: Oh I’m sorry, I can’t stop laughing hahahahah

Garda: Look, what’s the problem why are you laughing?!

Friend: Well you see my neighbours house is being broken into, and the thing is, the little scrote is stuck.
Garda: Stuck?!

Friend: Yes, stuck in the window. The window is way too small and he’s stuck and can’t free himself hahahaha. Half of him is hanging out and he’s wriggling like mad.. hahahahaha

Garda: hahahaha. Seriously?

Friend: Yes, seriously.

Friend: Gives address.. hahahaha.

Garda: Hahahaha, will be out as soon as we can.

About five minutes later. A paddy wagon, two squad cars and a special branch turn up. In total about eight cops all with their mobiles out to video stuck scrote. The thing is, the scrote wasn’t stuck at all. My friend lied but they did catch him red handed walking out the back door.

goodgolfer64

can blame an garda if you live in a ****hole really...they probably thought it was just another domestic like the thousands before in socio economic area

Bosco boy

Ah Yes! the large Garda bashing brush is out again, posters declare you occupations and I'll tell you how perfect and efficent they are. As usual they hide behind their computer screens, you wouldn't have the balls to deal with a fraction of what most gardai face.

Finnbar01

Bosco boy wrote: »

Ah Yes! the large Garda bashing brush is out again, posters declare you occupations and I'll tell you how perfect and efficent they are. As usual they hide behind their computer screens, you wouldn't have the balls to deal with a fraction of what most gardai face.

Bosco, I have great respect for the Gardaí. Some of your colleagues can really let the side down though. It is more to do with a horrible 'bed side' manner if anything else.

And for the love of all that's good and holy I do not understand why some gardaí think that adopting a terrible attitude will acheive results. Even when you are trying your utmost best to be polite and helpful towards them.

_feedback_

Bosco boy wrote: »

Ah Yes! the large Garda bashing brush is out again, posters declare you occupations and I'll tell you how perfect and efficent they are. As usual they hide behind their computer screens, you wouldn't have the balls to deal with a fraction of what most gardai face.

You're the one tarring everyone with the same brush now. The majority don't bash the Gardai, the people. They bash the system and the lack of Gardai and services etc. There'll always be people that brand them as lazy etc. but if you work in that profession, surely you need to be able to ignore that.

Finnbar01

Bosco boy wrote: »

Ah Yes! the large Garda bashing brush is out again, posters declare you occupations and I'll tell you how perfect and efficent they are. As usual they hide behind their computer screens, you wouldn't have the balls to deal with a fraction of what most gardai face.

BTW, Bosco boy, I'm a proctologist and yes most of my clients have to take it up the arse!


:pac:

mikom

Bosco boy wrote: »

Ah Yes! the large Garda bashing brush is out again, posters declare you occupations and I'll tell you how perfect and efficent they are.

Proofreader.

Bosco boy

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Bosco, I have great respect for the Gardaí. Some of your colleagues can really let the side down though. It is more to do with a horrible 'bed side' manner if anything else.

And for the love of all that's good and holy I do not understand why some gardaí think that adopting a terrible attitude will acheive results. Even when you are trying your utmost best to be polite and helpful towards them.

There are good and bad in all jobs, there isn't a profession known that is exempt. (even proofreaders)

mikom

Bosco boy wrote: »

There are good and bad in all jobs, there isn't a profession known that is exempt. (even proofreaders)

There are good and bad in all jobs, there isn't a profession known that is exempt (even proofreaders).

Finnbar01

Bosco boy wrote: »

There are good and bad in all jobs, there isn't a profession known that is exempt. (even proofreaders)

Yes, I know that and I agree with you.

May I ask you what would you do in the following scenario.

You and your colleague are on traffic duty. You pull a car over for a routine check. Both you and your colleague approach the driver and your colleague goes off on one. Banging on the roof, shouting, swearing and roaring, threatening to pull the driver out of the car because he's too slow getting out his license. Foaming and spitting at the mouth, face right up to driver.... what would you do or say to your colleague?

Cuddlesworth

I was run over twice and beaten afterwards with a tire iron by three males in front of rush hour traffic. Within five minutes I had two squad cars there. Within ten there were at least ten cars roaming the area and the gardai chopper overhead looking for the driver of the car and one of the passengers who had fled on foot. Details were taken from multiple witnesses. This was in Kimmage in Dublin.

The driver in the above incident got a 2 month suspended sentence for randomly running over a person on the street and beating them badly for no real reason. One of the passengers was let off with a warning. Both had previous convictions and the driver had already been banned for drunk driving.

My dad recently woke at night and looked out the window to see my sisters Saab being inched out of the driveway and her boyfriends van heading up the road. One call to the station later and the van is picked up in two minutes and car in ten with both thief's caught. Odds are both will receive a suspended sentence even though they are career criminals with a history of violent house and car thefts. Dublin again.


I don't have a problem with our police service. And if they are late coming I can understand it. How would your enthusiasm hold up when every twisted violent scumbag you catch ends up doing the exact same thing again within a month with no real consequences?

Bosco boy

Finnbar01 wrote: »

Yes, I know that and I agree with you.

May I ask you what would you do in the following scenario.

You and your colleague are on traffic duty. You pull a car over for a routine check. Both you and your colleague approach the driver and your colleague goes off on one. Banging on the roof, shouting, swearing and roaring, threatening to pull the driver out of the car because he's too slow getting out his license. Foaming and spitting at the mouth, face right up to driver.... what would you do or say to your colleague?

sounds like the mental treatment act might be appropiate, I'd tell them to cop on to themselves, if they didn't I'd refuse to work with them, I ask the Sgt not to detail me with them in future and tell the Sgt to talk to them, everyone has bad days, but if they are a constant asshole I wouldn't tolerate it. Some drivers can be extremely ignornat and maybe this was an over reaction to this!

Pdfile

Deleted User wrote: »

Second time , a Girl was mugged outside my office just as i was leaving. The guys who mugged the girl made their way to pearse street . I ran into the station to say they were outside. I will point them out. They told me there was nobody there that could do it. They would have to call one of the cars. They said i could go, i asked them if they needed a description , they said "oh yes"

well your near a metadone clinic.... what do you expect ?? you can take the heroin away from the junkie.... but you cant stop him from robbing people.

Finnbar01

Bosco boy wrote: »

sounds like the mental treatment act might be appropiate, I'd tell them to cop on to themselves, if they didn't I'd refuse to work with them, I ask the Sgt not to detail me with them in future and tell the Sgt to talk to them, everyone has bad days, but if they are a constant asshole I wouldn't tolerate it. Some drivers can be extremely ignornat and maybe this was an over reaction to this!

Cheers.

SparKing

Bosco boy wrote: »

and you are an authority on this because?

When did I say I was an authority? I am just passing on my experiences. It's understandable to feel under attack, try and think about it from the point of view of a person who as been a victim of a crime and has felt that the person who is supposed to be helping them couldn't care less about them.
I am an electrician by the way and I'll happily admit that most electricians aren't quite what they could be. The difference is that you can choose your electrician and if you're not happy you can move on or report them. I have had bad experiences with cops, I think the service could be better, if it was and the criminals knew they wouldn't get away with all the petty stuff they generally start out with, they might not become career criminals or just scumbags.
The police service can be effective, it can also be a complete joke.

Merch

Bosco boy wrote: »

Ah Yes! the large Garda bashing brush is out again, posters declare you occupations and I'll tell you how perfect and efficent they are. As usual they hide behind their computer screens, you wouldn't have the balls to deal with a fraction of what most gardai face.

But if someone isn't a Garda they aren't supposed to deal with that stuff, regardless of whether they have the balls or not!

I can imagine the situation, yes Gard, I had the balls to deal with the situation so i took the law into my own hands.

If a person becomes a garda/takes that position, then not only is it their job to deal with (which plenty seem unhappy to do) it isn't to suggest whether or not other people have the balls to deal with anything or not.

Out of curiosity, what do you mean by
"posters declare you occupations and I'll tell you how perfect and efficent they are" (sic) ?

Ally Dick

The gardai are on a work to rule over staff cuts and pension levy. They WANT anarchy so that the Minister For Justice will go cap in hand to them and they can demand pay rises. The main problems are that 1) they are not paid bonuses for the more that they do. I would slash their basic wage and I would give them bonuses for everything that they do. The lazy sh!ts would get the least 2) there are too many woman cops. Completely useless and ineffectual in the face of serious crime 3) the cops are not armed. They need to be.

sdanseo

Strangely enough, the one time I;ve ever had reason to call 112/999 when some drunken fool tried to kick our front door in, there were 2 Garda cars outside my house within about 4 minutes. They're nothing if inconsistent :P