Starcraft.ie 3rd Lan! 2nd July! in XGC Dublin -Signup here

IRL_Sinister · 28-06-2011 11:22pm

Double Elimination and BO1 has been the format of all the other LANs. Stupid changing it now. Doing BO3 is just not viable for a 12 hour event.

RoyalMarine · 29-06-2011 12:20am

right, the map pool system, i dont really play 1v1 too often, so please, feel free to come up with another map pool, and we can use that one.

if you dont like the bo1 system, then dont go. there is no way to fit a 40 player 1v1 tournament in with best of 3.

if you get cannon'd, cheese'd, or what ever in your game and you end up in the losers bracket and it happens again, then tough shít. better luck next time.

sorry to be blunt, but i answer about 20 of the same question at every lan, and via pm before every lan, and there's nothing i can do about it unless people want to play 2-3 rounds of the 1v1 tournament BEFORE going to the lan.

as for the "best players knocking each other out" and "and bad players can get further than they should"

WTF???

so we should set the tournament up so the good players never meet each other until near the end is that it?

well **** no. last lan vanyd (a diamond player, obviously not as good as a masters player.....) did amazingly well, got lucky in his match ups, and finished in the top 6 if i recall correctly.

so your saying that this should not be allowed?

RoyalMarine · 29-06-2011 12:25am

Funky wrote: »

Yea last time scrap was meant to be the final too but we just agreed on a diff map since it's shite. I think he has a seeding system but not sure if it only counts people who've played at it before.

the seeding system will be introduced soon, just dont have the time for it right now with work.

however, for the next lan, it will be in place.

IRL_Sinister · 29-06-2011 12:31am

The Map Pool is awesome. I like the fact that Scrap is being used as the opening map of the final because it's not as common these days, because of the obvious strengths it provides to certain races and builds, which will make it really interesting. Considering the final is BO5 the opening map will decide how creative and innovative people can be in unfamiliar territories. The idea of the LAN is not to give out prize money (it's Ireland) but to get together and enjoy a night out. It's hardly fair throwing in Bronze players with all the Masters but they don't say anything about it. It's the same for the maps Scrap is fun to play on and will show who's able to adapt to certain situations. Don't remove it!

Other than that the Bo1 and Double Elimination has been proven to be the best way to work the LAN in the time frame.

UnholyGregor · 29-06-2011 12:48am

IRL_Sinister wrote: »

The Map Pool is awesome. I like the .... obvious strengths it provides to certain races

of course you do you're protoss
edit: or terran

Orizio · 29-06-2011 3:07am

Scrap is a horrible map.

IRL_Sinister · 29-06-2011 3:18am

UnholyGregor wrote: »

of course you do you're protoss

Yep, the whole 2 games in my life I've ever played as them. Right.

Columc · 29-06-2011 12:05pm

RoyalMarine wrote: »

well **** no. last lan vanyd (a diamond player, obviously not as good as a masters player.....) did amazingly well, got lucky in his match ups, and finished in the top 6 if i recall correctly.

Im plat, I got knocked down to loser bracket by a bronze in the first round and worked my way up to face funky, had 2 good games, and was extremly close getting the second game off him but made 1 stupid mistake.

Columc · 29-06-2011 12:06pm

UnholyGregor wrote: »

of course you do you're protoss

holy **** sinister race changed?

freepower · 29-06-2011 12:16pm

well **** no. last lan vanyd (a diamond player, obviously not as good as a masters player.....) did amazingly well, got lucky in his match ups, and finished in the top 6 if i recall correctly.

And I took 4th. XD

Man, zerg imba!

RoyalMarine · 29-06-2011 12:46pm

Columc wrote: »

Im plat, I got knocked down to loser bracket by a bronze in the first round and worked my way up to face funky, had 2 good games, and was extremly close getting the second game off him but made 1 stupid mistake.

there ya go so, is a plat player not allowed to progress so well?

should we set up seedings so that the "so called good players" dont have to waste their time playing the "so called lesser players"?

fúck that. everyone has an equal chance.

NighTxX · 29-06-2011 1:05pm

Xel'Naga Caverns
MLG Metalopolis
MLG Shattered Temple
Shakuras Plateau
Tal'Darim Altar
GSL Dual Sight
GSL Crevasse
GSL Terminus
GSL Xel'Naga Fortress
Final: Either Meta or Xel'Naga

Columc · 29-06-2011 1:32pm

NighTxX wrote: »

Xel'Naga Caverns
MLG Metalopolis
MLG Shattered Temple
Shakuras Plateau
Tal'Darim Altar
GSL Dual Sight
GSL Crevasse
GSL Terminus
GSL Xel'Naga Fortress
Final: Either Meta or Xel'Naga

imo not much people would have played dual site, crossfire would be a bit better for people playing on it.

And guys this is a fun LAN, if you want a major tournamnet play online or go to a bigger LAN in uk/europe.

NighTxX · 29-06-2011 1:35pm

Columc wrote: »

imo not much people would have played dual site, crossfire would be a bit better for people playing on it.

And guys this is a fun LAN, if you want a major tournamnet play online or go to a bigger LAN in uk/europe.

Crossfire has positional imbalances

And you/someone said if someone wanted to give a map pool they could... so i did...

EDIT:Also every single person in this thread who plays starcraft once a month knows that scrap station is a horrible horrible horrible map.

Columc · 29-06-2011 1:55pm

NighTxX wrote: »

Crossfire has positional imbalances

And you/someone said if someone wanted to give a map pool they could... so i did...

EDIT:Also every single person in this thread who plays starcraft once a month knows that scrap station is a horrible horrible horrible map.

Never said SS wasnt a horrible map, i compelty agree that it shouldnt be put into the map pool.

My only concern is players having a major advantage over other players due to never playing DS befor, But i guess not having it as a starter map should be fine(since losers pick in the Bo3 games)

but ya the map pool you posted seems like the standard map pool going around these days.

UnholyGregor · 29-06-2011 2:05pm

As long as the mlg versions of the maps are used, im okay with that, as close pos is horrifically unfair for zerg players.
Also, Crossfire is also terribad for z tt

UnholyGregor · 29-06-2011 2:07pm

NighTxX wrote: »

Xel'Naga Caverns
MLG Metalopolis
MLG Shattered Temple
Shakuras Plateau
Gsl Tal'Darim Altar
GSL Crevasse
GSL Terminus
GSL Xel'Naga Fortress
Final: Either Meta or Xel'Naga

This, i just edited out dual sight, and changed taldarim to the gsl; version, as is doesnt have destructible rocks, and no low ground behind the 3rd (as it is very exploitable for tvz)

NighTxX · 29-06-2011 2:09pm

UnholyGregor wrote: »

This, i just edited out dual sight, and changed taldarim to the gsl; version, as is doesnt have destructible rocks, and no low ground behind the 3rd (as it is very exploitable for tvz)

I disagree the ladder version is better means zerg dont get a free third base instantly.

UnholyGregor · 29-06-2011 2:11pm

NighTxX wrote: »

I disagree the ladder version is better means zerg dont get a free third base instantly.

the 3rd base only has one gas. normally i skip this base altogether as zerg, the only reason this has been done is to prevent protoss turtling on 3bases with all 6 gas, as turtle protoss on this map is far too easy ,and protoss have an obscene win ratio v zerg on this map.

also, rocks on the 3rd give zerg an unfair disadvantage, as they need to make a considerable army in the early game to kill the rocks, so this actually hurts the zerg eco more than help.

NighTxX · 29-06-2011 2:12pm

UnholyGregor wrote: »

the 3rd base only has one gas. normally i skip this base altogether as zerg, the only reason this has been done is to prevent protoss turtling on 3bases with all 6 gas, as turtle protoss on this map is far too easy ,and protoss have an obscene win ratio v zerg on this map.

Yeah then when a terran gets cross positions vs a zerg he may as well leave the game at the beginning.

PurpleFistMixer · 29-06-2011 2:13pm

Unfortunately I'm going to have to pull out of the LAN. I want to give other people a chance at winning for once... ahem. Yeah I gotta mind my dog that night, but I'll be playing SC2 at home anyway.

UnholyGregor · 29-06-2011 2:13pm

NighTxX wrote: »

Yeah then when a terran gets cross positions vs a zerg he may as well leave the game at the beginning.

Terran 3 bases >zerg 6 bases.
also, terran have no right to cry about maps, zerg have hadd to put up with xel naga and close position since beta.

NighTxX · 29-06-2011 2:18pm

UnholyGregor wrote: »

Terran 3 bases >zerg 6 bases.
also, terran have no right to cry about maps, zerg have hadd to put up with xel naga and close position since beta.

i lol'd you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

UnholyGregor · 29-06-2011 2:19pm

NighTxX wrote: »

i lol'd you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

of course,
'taldarim is imba cos my 2base all-ins dont always workl!''
learn to macro bro

NighTxX · 29-06-2011 2:22pm

UnholyGregor wrote: »

of course,
'taldarim is imba cos my 2base all-ins dont always workl!''
learn to macro bro

Well you see, with doing an all in my macro is still probably better than yours.

UnholyGregor · 29-06-2011 2:28pm

NighTxX wrote: »

Well you see, with doing an all in my macro is still probably better than yours.

If it is, i commend you .
But i highly doubt it.

Columc · 29-06-2011 3:06pm

not trying to be a backseat mod her, but both of ye untangle your panties via PM.

this is a signup thread.

RoyalMarine · 29-06-2011 3:14pm

agreed.

any more discussion that does not revolve around the lan in this thread will be deleted.

Shiminay · 29-06-2011 5:23pm

Bringing things back on topic, what time should those of us bringing a machine and maybe looking to have a beverage or 2 before we start arrive at? Will it be OK to leave our machines in XGC whilst we imb(a)ibe

said beverages?

Also, since I'm a pretty rubbish player, I will be happy to take names for 4v4 MONOBATTLES after we get through a few of the opening rounds and have time to get them up and running. That'll leave Colum to get on with the actual comp whilst we just dick about and have a laugh.

RoyalMarine · 29-06-2011 6:01pm

you can drop your machine in anytime, and leave it upstairs. they have cctv, and are very nice about people leaving pc/s etc upstairs.

just mention your there for the lan and its good.

usually we meet in the grand social about 8-8:30

NighTxX · 29-06-2011 10:47pm

Micklup Darkpadraig Lawrencium and NighT are all no longer going.

Tried booking the tickets 4hours late and it is 40 pounds for each of us.

EDIT: Well.... i look at the "thanks from" at the bottom. Guess we will find some way to turn up so that particular person can not win.

freepower · 29-06-2011 11:40pm

^ also I need to hear the dulcet tones of the north!

Pacwac not coming? Our ZvPs were pretty epic last time...

Oh, and "Thanks" for coming, always good to have more masters players!

NighTxX · 29-06-2011 11:41pm

Sadly not he had the worst excuse i have ever heard as well!

freepower · 29-06-2011 11:43pm

Ah well, gl getting down here anyway, make sure to stay long enough to get a real title shot.

RoyalMarine · 29-06-2011 11:59pm

so ye guys in or out?

seanbmc · 30-06-2011 12:51am

boards.ie name: seanbmc
Battle.net name:Strobe
Battle.net ID: 888
Where you are travelling from: Dublin
Are you over 18: Yes
Will you attend the beers before hand: Yes
Are you bringing a PC/Laptop: Laptop
Are you bringing mouse/kb/headset: Headset, keyboard, mouse.
Are you bringing anyone NOT on boards.ie (friends etc): Nope
Do you have any special requirements (either medical, disabilities etc): Nope
Do you need any help arranging travel arrangements for the LAN: Nope

Edit: Will I be able to access one of the monitors in the center? My laptop screen broke a few weeks ago.

N0mz · 30-06-2011 1:01am

boards.ie name: N0mz
Battle.net name: Nom
Battle.net ID: 170
Where you are travelling from: Dublin 5
Are you over 18: Yes
Will you attend the beers before hand: Yes
Are you bringing a PC/Laptop: Yes, laptop
Are you bringing mouse/kb/headset: Mouse
Are you bringing anyone NOT on boards.ie (friends etc): No
Do you have any special requirements (either medical, disabilities etc): No
Do you need any help arranging travel arrangements for the LAN: No

PurpleFistMixer · 30-06-2011 10:14am

NighTxX wrote: »

Micklup Darkpadraig Lawrencium and NighT are all no longer going.

Tried booking the tickets 4hours late and it is 40 pounds for each of us.

EDIT: Well.... i look at the "thanks from" at the bottom. Guess we will find some way to turn up so that particular person can not win.

Belfast? That's only about 20 euro return on the bus, no booking required (though it's probably cheaper to book online).

SteamySashimi · 30-06-2011 1:23pm

boards.ie name: SteamySashimi
Battle.net name: Sashimi
Battle.net ID: 505
Where you are travelling from: Dublin
Are you over 18: yup
Will you attend the beers before hand: Not sure yet
Are you bringing a PC/Laptop: Laptop
Are you bringing mouse/kb/headset: Mouse
Are you bringing anyone NOT on boards.ie (friends etc): No
Do you have any special requirements (either medical, disabilities etc): Nope
Do you need any help arranging travel arrangements for the LAN: Nope

IRL_Sinister · 01-07-2011 12:17am

NighTxX wrote: »

Micklup Darkpadraig Lawrencium and NighT are all no longer going.

Tried booking the tickets 4hours late and it is 40 pounds for each of us.

EDIT: Well.... i look at the "thanks from" at the bottom. Guess we will find some way to turn up so that particular person can not win.

Hard luck lads, hopefully you can organize something in advance for the next one

Khazidhea · 01-07-2011 1:58am

I am now pretty sure I will be there. Like 80% or basically if there is no emergency happening at work.

Can I have an update on the map pool? RM just say your final word please