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Crufts-winning mother-and-daughter duo plead guilty to keeping 104 dogs in 'horrific
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More that you could ever imagine
. It would obviously need to be set up by someone with "admin" time - great job for maybe a retired or unemployed person. It's not rocket science to agree a list of principles.
Of course a puppy from a "guaranteed" breeder would be more expensive & would give the breeder a bigger margin. People do not do research but it is up to the breeders to explain why they should.
The buyer does have to take some responsibility but it is impossible to check out the breeder & be 100% sure. The breeder exposed by Panorama was regarded as the best of the best & beyond reproach. Unless you had access to her Vet reports there would be no way of knowing what she was doing.
No, no, no. (why is there no banging your head against a wall smiley) A breeder the likes of which I regard as responsible and who would be part of a "guaranteed" scheme would not have a bigger margin. A proper breeder barely makes any money on litters, the parents have to be health tested, the dam has to be very well looked after during pregnancy, whelping and rearing the pups. The pups have to have proper vet care during and after birth. That all costs money. That is why the puppy farmers don't do these things. A breeder that breeds for the right reasons very seldom owns the sire as well as the dam, so they would incur travel costs to find the right sire.
I disagree with you about the person on Panorama, I wonder how many people who do actually know the breed regard them as the best of the best and beyond reproach? However, lets go along with what you say, so surely it is those kind of people who would be in charge of these associations that you think should be set up. If, as you say, they would be regarded as reponsible breeders? So, you've argued away your argument:D
DD, why don't you come up with a list of principles for rescues? You're obviously passionate about this, so why not do it?0 -
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The breeder exposed by Panorama was regarded as the best of the best & beyond reproach. Unless you had access to her Vet reports there would be no way of knowing what she was doing.
People should also not be seduced by a breeder's supposed reputation or fancy website. I bought my last dog off a breeder who has a small kennel and probably wouldn't be as well known as others but he is passionate about his breed and covered all the bases I require before buying a dog. I can still to this day email or ring him about the dog I bought from him and he is happy to answer anything I need to know and this is 2 years later, you can't put a price on that 0 -
No, no, no. (why is there no banging your head against a wall smiley) A breeder the likes of which I regard as responsible and who would be part of a "guaranteed" scheme would not have a bigger margin.
What's the wall done to deserve being nutted ?
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A "guaranteed" pup would sell for a higher price but the breeder would only incur an annual registration fee. So the breeder would make more money.However, lets go along with what you say, so surely it is those kind of people who would be in charge of these associations that you think should be set up. If, as you say, they would be regarded as reponsible breeders? So, you've argued away your argument
The Panorama breeder would of had to give buyers access to her Vet records & they would of run a mile. Also she would of been struck off from the association.DD, why don't you come up with a list of principles for rescues? You're obviously passionate about this, so why not do it?
Because I have seen the effect that trying to unite rescues has had on others - no thanksJustAThought wrote: »I'm getting a bit tired of the kennel club bashing that I keep seeing .
The KC may do some good work but their imposition of appalling breed standards has resulted in unnecessary suffering for thousands of dogs.0 -
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So you don't want the hassle, but you think others should have? Thats not very fair.
You keep making feel like the scolded child that has failed to live up to expectations.
You have been around long enough to know exactly what I mean. I do not believe that there is anyone, or ever will be anyone, who can get the rescues speaking with one voice.0 -
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You keep making feel like the scolded child that has failed to live up to expectations.
You have been around long enough to know exactly what I mean. I do not believe that there is anyone, or ever will be anyone, who can get the rescues speaking with one voice.
Put it down to my teenage son behaving badly at the moment, and me having no control, so needing to take it out on someone:eek::p
I agree with you, but just think that you shouldn't expect anyone else to do it either, unless you know they have a good mental health insurance plan. Anyway, what do you mean, I've been around long enough, how old do you think I am? :mad:0 -
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