* Music * Predictions / discussion / aftermath (One thread please)

J_E

Is it really worth learning like that? They will never ask "Name all the sections in order".

MarkTheBaby

For every Melody (to a given opening) we write we were given a chordal plan. I that what everyone did?

My teacher (who isn't great) told us to go I-vi-V-I , vi-IV-V-iv , vi-ii-V-I and we have a different plan for Minors. Is that alright?

PJelly

Cydoniac wrote: »

Is it really worth learning like that? They will never ask "Name all the sections in order".

Oh I memorise things in picture form way better. If I know the order, and a section comes up that I'm not 100% sure about (if it's C2 or C3 or something). If I know what comes after it, I can picture the order in my head, and THEN remember what it is.
Long and badly explained process I know. But I find that knowing the order like that helps me to remember which is which and what features they all have.

thumbelinaxo

PJelly wrote: »

Oh I memorise things in picture form way better. If I know the order, and a section comes up that I'm not 100% sure about (if it's C2 or C3 or something). If I know what comes after it, I can picture the order in my head, and THEN remember what it is.
Long and badly explained process I know. But I find that knowing the order like that helps me to remember which is which and what features they all have.

I do this too!

PJelly

thumbelinaxo wrote: »

I do this too!

Hence my love of biology . It's all pictures basically!

Salty

MarkTheBaby wrote: »

For every Melody (to a given opening) we write we were given a chordal plan. I that what everyone did?

My teacher (who isn't great) told us to go I-vi-V-I , vi-IV-V-iv , vi-ii-V-I and we have a different plan for Minors. Is that alright?

A chordal plan?

For part B, we use : IV - I - ii - V

For the A parts, we work out the chords in the given opening and apply them to the melody, with a cadence (usually V - I) at the end.

Same thing for the minor melody.

joyle

is it true in the listening paper, if you get something wrong, they disregard one of your right answers and if you have nothing right for that particular question its minus marks?

PJelly

joyle wrote: »

is it true in the listening paper, if you get something wrong, they disregard one of your right answers and if you have nothing right for that particular question its minus marks?

That's biology.

PJelly

Could someone tell me the difference between retrograde and inversion?
In a handout I have, they're listed as the same thing. Must be a misprint I assume.

joyle

PJelly wrote: »

Could someone tell me the difference between retrograde and inversion?
In a handout I have, they're listed as the same thing. Must be a misprint I assume.

retrograde = reversed i.e. played backward

inversion = upside down i.e. notes "inverted"


i think!

Bbbbolger

joyle wrote: »

is it true in the listening paper, if you get something wrong, they disregard one of your right answers and if you have nothing right for that particular question its minus marks?

Music does employ negative marking according to our teacher. He said that if they ask for ONE specific answer and you give two they'll give you nothing. Also if they ask a question which requires at least 2 points to get full marks, if you give one correct and one incorrect point they'll cancel each other out and you'll get nothing. If you get a question wrong it won't affect any previous correct answers you have given. It will only affect points/answers within the same question.

MarkTheBaby

Is it OK to put a V-vi 'Deceptive cadence' in the B phrase of the melody. I really don't trust my Music teacher.

PJelly

Is lord mayo's delight at the end of Barry an inversion too?
Whey mention composition techniques I assume they mean frequent rhythm changes, inversions of irish tunes etc?

@Markthebaby I've never even heard of that kind of cadence.

Salty

MarkTheBaby wrote: »

Is it OK to put a V-vi 'Deceptive cadence' in the B phrase of the melody. I really don't trust my Music teacher.

I've never heard of a deceptive cadence?

ClaireMarie

MarkTheBaby wrote: »

Is it OK to put a V-vi 'Deceptive cadence' in the B phrase of the melody. I really don't trust my Music teacher.

V - vi is an interrupted cadence, no?

Niall171

Common sense

ClaireMarie

Niall171 wrote: »

Common sense

:rolleyes:

.Ellie.

I had the most horrific chemistry exam ever due to asking a chemistry teacher (who is well known to get As and a few Bs from her students) what she thought would come up. I studied said topics in depth (at the weekend) and not a single one came up. Moral of the story, skim through everything, don't do specifics, you'll regret it....

Niall171

You see ^^^ that's retarded.. Skimming chemistry is smart... Music is such a small course I'm comparison to the others. Learn everything! Especially what I predicted. I'm telling you it will be that way...! If I'm wrong I'll buy everyone a pint
Bascially learn everything or you'll regret it.. Don't listen to this spoofer above!

PJelly

Niall171 wrote: »

Bascially learn everything

Is that your secret to success?

CupcakeOfRikku

Does anyone have the times of the sections of Gerald Barry? It's wayyy too hard to follow :eek:

G.J.

CupcakeOfRikku wrote: »

Does anyone have the times of the sections of Gerald Barry? It's wayyy too hard to follow :eek:

A - 0:00 (Obviously XD)
B1 - 1:08
C1 - 1:50
C2 - 2:17
B2 - 2:53
C3 - 4:01
D1 - 5:26
D2 + B3 - 5:38
E1 - 6:05
C4 - 6:30
C5 - 6:53
E2 + D3 - 7:48
C6 - 8:13
C7 - 8:43
F + C8 - 9:12
C9 - 10:03
G - 10:23
H - 10:30

SDTimeout

heading off for a 3 hour music class now our teacher has organised. If i'm not on tomorrow best of luck everyone. Have a bad feeling Tchaikovsky is going to be Q1 as opposed to Bach

.Ellie.

Niall171 wrote: »

You see ^^^ that's retarded.. Skimming chemistry is smart... Music is such a small course I'm comparison to the others. Learn everything! Especially what I predicted. I'm telling you it will be that way...! If I'm wrong I'll buy everyone a pint
Bascially learn everything or you'll regret it.. Don't listen to this spoofer above!

All the learning has been done throughout the 2 years (as it's "such a small course"). It's only skimming through the info that's left to do.
Niall171, you just gave people specifics to learn off and now you're coming back with "learn everything".. Contradictory much?

G.J.

Niall171 wrote: »

This is what's coming up:
Upbeat major melody
Minor harmony

Q1 tchaikovsky
Q2 bohemian
Q3 Bach
Q4 Barry

Essays: The harp , regional styles, something to do with foreign music
And ceili band.

The harping tradition came up last year, as did the influence of Irish folk music on the folk music of North America.

Salty

Irish music is too unpredictable, it's easier to learn everything, or at least know enough to spoof...you can't really narrow it down.

millington

G.J. wrote: »

A - 0:00 (Obviously XD)
B1 - 1:08
C1 - 1:50
C2 - 2:17
B2 - 2:53
C3 - 4:01
D1 - 5:26
D2 + B3 - 5:38
E1 - 6:05
C4 - 6:30
C5 - 6:53
E2 + D3 - 7:48
C6 - 8:13
C7 - 8:43
F + C8 - 9:12
C9 - 10:03
G - 10:23
H - 10:30

Ah **** that, wing it and hope for the best!

Farmer poet

Anyone know where I can get good definitions for overdubbing, antiphonal singing, multitrack recording?

Framble

Farmer poet wrote: »

Anyone know where I can get good definitions for overdubbing, antiphonal singing, multitrack recording?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overdubbing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiphon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multitrack_recording

PJelly

Anyone have any tips for identifying the form of a piece? A,A1,B etc?
I find it hard to tell when one piece ends and the other one starts.