Men dressing up in wimmans clothes...

pseudonym1

This is may sound like a bizarre enquiry. Just curious to know how many heterosexual guys will admit to enjoy wearing women’s clothing..

Seriously...

A mate recently and openly declared he likes to dress up in women’s clothing; he is a platonic friend in a relationship. I would describe him as in touch with his feminine side but also very manly into guy sprots has a shed etc.. and unquestionably straight.



We discussed it his girlfriend knows and doesn't have a problem with it!

Now I reckon there are probably a lot of guys out there that do the same. Personally don’t have a problem with it but on the same note not sure if I would want my fella borrowing my finest fabrics. It is fair to say we all have a masculine and feminine side and society allows women to indulge in both, men’s roles are more limited when it comes to dress.. So is it a big deal? if so why?

I am aware that its not considered cool and possibly weird for a guy to want to pounce around in a dress but is it a taboo that goes on more frequently than care to recognise? If you don’t maybe you know of a normal (ish) heterosexual guy that does?


Please note this is a toatlly serious question and if could keep the smart ass wit to a minimum and have a discussion about it. T'would be great.



Thanks kindly

Robbo

Moved to the Gentlemen's Club for a more serious discussion.

That_Guy

Was there not a similar thread to this that was locked?

RobertFoster

Clothes is clothes.

That_Guy

Whatever way people want to dress is cool with me. If a mate of mine told me that he dresses in women's clothes I'd still treat him with the same respect I would with anybody else.

pseudonym1

Thats exactly what I think ..but why such a taboo about it?

BopNiblets

Bit odd, as in not inside the norm, but whatever floats your frilly lace bra!

Fr. Jack: "WOMENS KNICKERS!"

Dun

I dunno how it'd be gay, since I can't imagine a gay man fancying someone dressing like a woman.

Anyhow, whatever floats your boat. I might give more than a little smile at the thought of some fella dressed up in woman's clothes, cause I think it would look a bit naff on most fella, but live and let live.

Thomas828

I'm undecided about this. I suppose it depends on how feminine the clothing is. I bought a check shirt from a charity shop some years ago that was hanging up in the men's section and when I got home I discovered it was designed for women. But that didn't bother me. It looked manly enough.

I shouldn't really be prejudiced about this. I've always had a yen for tomboys, girls who dress and often behave like boys so I shouldn't have anything against boys who dress like girls.

Besides, a lot of women's clothing could pass as men's clothing and vice-versa.

CDfm

Funnily enough a woman can dress up like a guy and people dont bat an eyelid.So vice versa it is no problem.

In Tudor times it was men who wore silken hosiery and whose legs are commented on.Silken Thomas loved his clothes. And, a friend of my son gets the perfect jeans in Zara the girls section.

Now I dress well and have lots of clothes and have some fairly flamboyant stuff for a straight guy. Shopping with my OH is something I enjoy.

So in one way fashion and dapperness is an issue. One of the OH's friends once called me cute and cuddly like Ken (as in Ken & Barbie)

I use face products.(Its not unknown for me to wind Otis up about it here but fcek the lad is so hairy he uses a flymo instead of a razor )

Other people might like the sensual experience and I could never see myself doing the whole waxing thing.Cary Grant used to buy french knickers for the comfort. And what about long hair in the 60's.

For some guys the issue is deeper and you have gender identity issues and, some of these are biological/physiological. And if it is ,though I cant understand it and it wouldnt be for me, why should it bother me. I cant understand tats and piercings either. I dont understand how electricity works either and get along fine,

So I am hardly that perfect that a guy wearing womens clothes is going to offend or bother me in any way.

Live and let live.

Now a guy with an AK47 - thats something that would concern me.

Panthro

I think that if a male friend of mine told he he liked to wear wimminz clothes, I'd have a bit of a giggle about it (yes, ignorance) and try to get him to dress up. Then if he did arrive dressed in whatever it is he he liked to dress in I'd probably say "well hello there sexy!" and sit down and have a beer or two with him. At the end of the day,so long as he is happy and not doing any harm to anyone, its fine by me.

Wolfe Tone

Very weird imo. If a mate said he did it, well I would laugh tbh

pseudonym1

He reckons that it gives him an inexplicable good feeling. Not just sensual. I can't plague him with anymore questions as am sure at this stage sorry ever mentioned it!
Still though ,while I don't have a problem with him. I think if it was my fella or a family member might have a react differently.

I guess each to their own.

Galvasean

Some of those poll options overlap.

pseudonym1

Galvasean wrote: »

Some of those poll options overlap.

Thanks for that ... don't think can change it now though. Pick which ever one relate to the most.

Links234

CDfm wrote: »

Funnily enough a woman can dress up like a guy and people dont bat an eyelid.So vice versa it is no problem.

it's a strange dichotomy, isn't it?

I've no problems with it, I've got a male friend who cross dresses, and I never said anything to him.

honestly, I think more guys would probably like to wear womens clothes if it wasn't so taboo.

Wolfe Tone

Why on earth would a man want to wear womens clothes? I don't understand.

Galvasean

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Why on earth would a man want to wear womens clothes? I don't understand.

For fun?

Wolfe Tone

Galvasean wrote: »

For fun?

I had to dress up in womans clothes for a play once, was hardly fun. (well the acting bit was I guess)


I'll stick with the PS3 I think, but each to their own I guess.

CDfm

Links234 wrote: »

it's a strange dichotomy, isn't it?

It is but look at this guy



Clothes are like a uniform and being part of a peer group.






So cool is relative and fashion changes with time.

OutlawPete

Never did it but I did wear Ladies 501s, tighter in the crotch area so I'd advise going commando

pseudonym1

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Why on earth would a man want to wear womens clothes? I don't understand.

AFAIK it is to alleviate masculinity and some sort of escapism. For some dressing up and putting on makeup might be same high that other people get from drugs drink or power gliding etc.



There is also a submissive element in it but that isn’t just it.



I reckon woman get to dress as they wish; wearing guy’s clothes has become the norm. Whereas men are stricken in trousers and other limited options. Perhaps it is an expression of sensitivity.. and creativity or just the opportunity to dress up?


I don’t know ... but I am becoming fascinated with it.



BTW Thanks to all the replies

the_syco

Only okay if it's for the womens mini marathon

Pherekydes

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I'll stick with the PS3 I think, but each to their own I guess.

Indeed. I couldn't understand an adult wanting to play PS3.

yawha

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Why on earth would a man want to wear womens clothes? I don't understand.

Well, what is it that makes clothes "feminine" in the first place?

There's hardly anything biological that dictates that it's unnatural or weird for men to wear skirts, for example.

It's pretty bizarre that the cut of a piece of fabric can be ascribed a gender, but there you go. Society is what's very weird tbh.

beglopty

wimmans?

I can understand when people use shorthand to save time, e.g. ppl rather than people, but what is this about? I have seen it a couple of times.

Is it 'cool'?

pseudonym1

beglopty wrote: »

wimmans?

I can understand when people use shorthand to save time, e.g. ppl rather than people, but what is this about? I have seen it a couple of times.

Is it 'cool'?

Yup. Anything else to add?

Morag

I know a fair few cross dressers, for some it's being in drag and silly and fun and for other's it's more serious and about the feel of the clothes, for other's they have a different persona when dressed and yes they would for the most part be 'straight' men.
What ever a person is into, if I was to turn up to a friends house for dinner and he was to suddenly open the door in a twinset, perals and a skirt I'd not bat an eye lid and it would not make him less of a man in my eyes at all.

twinQuins

yawha wrote: »

Well, what is it that makes clothes "feminine" in the first place?

There's hardly anything biological that dictates that it's unnatural or weird for men to wear skirts, for example.[...]

Interestingly, if you read Arrian's "The Campaigns of Alexander" when he and some of his men adopted the Persian style of men wearing pants they were mocked as it was seen as effeminate.

Funny how social attitudes can change so much.

CountryJoe

No problem with it at all. Cant say it would float my boat personally, but whatever people want to wear is entirely up to them. More power to them I say.

Wolfe Tone

Pherekydes wrote: »

Indeed. I couldn't understand an adult wanting to play PS3.

You would be surprised, lots and lots of adults play Ps3s or x boxes

Eve_Dublin

I don't care what any male friend,brother or even my dad did in his own spare time...but to be honest, I wouldn't particularly be attracted to the idea that my boyfriend dressed up in women's clothing. I think it'd turn me off sexually tbh. I go for the rugged types and wouldn't even fancy a guy who wore skinny jeans. That's just my cup of tea but I suppose if I found out well into a relationship with someone I love, I'd deal with it (I'd hope).

yawha

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

You would be surprised, lots and lots of adults play Ps3s or x boxes

You would be surprised, lots and lots of men wear women's clothes from time to time.

LegacyUser

going unreg for this

i'm a female, and about two years ago i had a regular fcukbuddy (male). after a while, he brought up the fact that he liked to crossdress for sexual kicks, and asked if i'd mind. i'm a fairly openminded woman, so i thought "why not?".

at our next session he wore black lingerie, knickers, bra, stockings and suspenders, and stilettos... while i didnt (and dont) find a man in lingerie particularly attractive, i did find the fact that he was so obviously turned on to be quite sexy... it was so clear how horny it made him (altho he had no problem performing without dressing up either). i suppose i found the fact that it was a slightly uncommon thing to be a bit of a turn on for me too, the sheer experimentation of it.

but, i think i was ok with it largely because he was only a fcukbuddy. i dont think i'd like it in a longterm partner... theres something very incongruous about seeing a hard cock poking out from behing lacy knickers, and , tbh, i prefer my men to be masculine.

qz

I don't do it but in the past I have tried on ex-gf's clothes to see if they'd fit for the craic cause I'd be about as skinny as them and it usually sickened them when the clothes fit! But the clothes always come straight back off then and I got back into my normal garb.

Count Duckula

Personally, I find it really odd, and more than a little disturbing. Now, don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to do what they want in their own spare time as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, but the idea of it just creeps me out.

rainbow kirby

Whatever floats your boat, tbh.

Shotgun_TEXAS

I have done it twice once two years ago and last weekend it was a charity event in the local pub the staff roped me into it cos I am half cracked lol. It was a good laugh only because of the situation now I only put in big hoop earings slutty clothes beer gut hangin out slapped on the war paint but there is always on lad that goes all out for the night and if you didnt Know you would she's a fine beur but i suspect these lads enjoy it more than their supposed too id say they would be used it

raveni

I don't see anything wrong with it at the end of the day. But at the same time I can't help finding it a bit strange, but not in a bad way, it's just something that you're not used to seeing. It's how society shapes our perceptions of the way men dress that makes us find it odd or disturbing.

Snowie

if i was told this i probably have a smurk on my face...

cause i still laught at tom and jerry ....

But it wouldnt change the facvt im his mates and do show honor and loyality....


I don'y really get why hed tell me any way ?

deirdre_dub

I might be a bit biased on this one!

The question has been asked "why?". There are many answers to that question. The common one that everyone seems to think of is "for sexual kicks". That is a lazy answer, and I strongly suspect that it might even be a minority reason.

The most common reason seems to be to express an innate something - for many, that "something" could be called "femininity", though that doesn't always capture it. There are others who do it as a form of performance, and/or as a form of social commentary.

Then, of course, there is the phenomenon of transgenderism. For trans people, the clothes are nothing more than a symptom of the underlying cause. The underlying cause is an innate sense of one's gender. Most trans women I know, most of the time, are in trousers and tops! And for all of the trans people that I'm aware of, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - sexual about it.

dr strangelove

seriously? no "i'm a lumberjack" option?
pfft

I_am_LOST

Why do people say wimminz, wimmans etc.? It doesn't make you sound cool.

Snowie

I_am_LOST wrote: »

Why do people say wimminz, wimmans etc.? It doesn't make you sound cool.

look here pheasant people who are of the upper class and vetrenarian interweb users can say what they want :cool:

CDfm

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

look here pheasant people who are of the upper class and vetrenarian interweb users can say what they want :cool:

And cool people do and say what they want cos they are cool.

On an aside, I can be a bit ditzy at times and on being introduced to a transexual a few months back ( a friend of a friend) was not a bit phased but wondered where she got her shoes. My OH luvs shooz . This lady looked like a lady and was very slim and hot.

Now others dont look or sound the part. Some are into it as a fetish as "ihaveexperience" says.

But take

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Louise Hannon, born a man, wins court battle



A transsexual sales manager ordered to switch from male to female status at her employer’s whim has won more than $50,000 in a compensation claim.
Louise Hannon, born a male, has said she feels vindicated after winning her gender discrimination case against her former employers First Direct Logistics Ltd.
The 50-year-old, from Arbour Hill in Dublin’s north inner city, took the precedent-setting case to the Equality Tribunal after she was told to work from home as a ‘man’ after she had changed her name by deed poll to Louise.
“It’s closure. It means I can get on with my life,” said Hogan, the first transsexual worker to successfully use Ireland’s Employment Equality Act in a case of discrimination on the grounds of transsexualism.


http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Transsexual-ordered-to-switch-back-to-male-wins-50000-120194544.html

I found this court case weird because esentially it is not the employers fault if customers will not buy from a sales manager on the grounds of their gender reasignment. I cannot see how the employer was at fault and how the Employment Appeals Tribunal could make the award.

I can see occupations where it does not matter and where an employer may be insensitive but this does not appear to be one if them.

pseudonym1

This guy is one of the straightest manly men I have ever known. Used to be a bit of a ladies man..
He is now going out with a fantastic girl who doesn t seem to mind his thing for dressing up. Am sure he regrets ever saying anything as it was after a serious drinking session. I suspect it is more common than one would expects.

G86

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

I don't care what any male friend,brother or even my dad did in his own spare time...but to be honest, I wouldn't particularly be attracted to the idea that my boyfriend dressed up in women's clothing. I think it'd turn me off sexually tbh. I go for the rugged types and wouldn't even fancy a guy who wore skinny jeans. That's just my cup of tea but I suppose if I found out well into a relationship with someone I love, I'd deal with it (I'd hope).

+1. I don't have a problem with it, and having a friend who did it wouldn't bother me at all. But at the same time it'd be a big turn off for me in a relationship, I simply wouldn't be attracted to the guy.

CDfm

pseudonym1 wrote: »

This guy is one of the straightest manly men I have ever known. Used to be a bit of a ladies man..
He is now going out with a fantastic girl who doesn t seem to mind his thing for dressing up. Am sure he regrets ever saying anything as it was after a serious drinking session. I suspect it is more common than one would expects.

But he caused a bit of hassle for his employer !

pseudonym1

CDfm wrote: »

But he caused a bit of hassle for his employer !

His employer?

CDfm

I posted

CDfm wrote: »

I found this court case weird because esentially it is not the employers fault if customers will not buy from a sales manager on the grounds of their gender reasignment. I cannot see how the employer was at fault and how the Employment Appeals Tribunal could make the award.

I can see occupations where it does not matter and where an employer may be insensitive but this does not appear to be one if them.

And you posted

This guy is one of the straightest manly men I have ever known. Used to be a bit of a ladies man..
He is now going out with a fantastic girl who doesn t seem to mind his thing for dressing up. Am sure he regrets ever saying anything as it was after a serious drinking session. I suspect it is more common than one would expects.

pseudonym1 wrote: »

His employer?

Are we talking about the same person

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Transsexual-ordered-to-switch-back-to-male-wins-50000-120194544.html

I work in sales and no matter how tolerant I am of people - an employer should not be held responsible for customers not placing orders with a transexual.

Pherekydes

The thread is about transvestites, not transsexuals.