Newcastle United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15

M5

No one here mentioned champions league or anything remotely like it. Giving it half a go would be nice though....

Everton are a comparable club. Why would you settle for less?

We wasted a chance when we finished fifth and this year to invest in a couple of decent players to attempt to push on. We almost got relegated because of it. This season will also be a disaster

GT_TDI_150

I think people could take the selling of our top players if the money was reinvested in the squad immediatly rather than coming out of transfer windows weaker than we went in.

M5

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

I think people could take the selling of our top players if the money was reinvested in the squad immediatly rather than coming out of transfer windows weaker than we went in.

That would be a start for sure.... selling club, fine, but having an agreement in place to sell your best player and not signing anyone is at the very least negligent. I fear however it's more than negligence, it's profit taking.

M5

Nufc.com reporting that cisse is being sold to Ruben kazan.

Just as well we have so many options up front

Salmon

As a nufc fan for many years I feel that I am being realistic in my expectations for the club. When Ashley first arrived I fully bought into the idea that we would be ran in the same manner as arsenal, ie that we would about for promising players in Europe and the North east and grow the club organically in that way.

What has happened since, and the areas where I have the biggest problem is not or signings, but the constant pillaging of our best players with pardew in the media constantly putting our players in the shop windows with statements like "I hope we can hold onto tiote, cable, Carroll et al" is just demoralising really.
While some of the players we have sold in part seasons have turned out not to be world beaters (Jose Enrique, Andy Carroll, yohan cabaye etc) they were at the time of the sale key players. We will never go forward if we sell or prize assets, particularly if the money isn't going back or on new players.
I think its going to take a major change in the club to offer some hope to fans, I know it's great that the club is on a better financial footing but at the end of the day in a fan not an accountant and I want to see the club playing good football and competing to the best of its abilities, this guy Ashley has tainted the whole club for me and I for one am considering investing my time and money elsewhere until major change had occurred. perhaps a la Liga team might be nice to support until this clown has Rode off into the sunset with his bags full of fans cash.

Chazz Michael Michaels

Moneymaker wrote: »

Mike Ashley's net worth is over TWO BILLION.

Read back through the thread, people's expectations are quite reasonable.

Is it unrealistic to expect some investment in the club on players we desperately need?

Is it unrealistic to hope for a good cup run when Wigan, Sunderland, Swansea, Bradford, Spurs and others have all done it in recent years? Or for the management to even give a **** about it?

Is it unrealistic to hope that our players will improve, not regress as so many of them have done?

Is it unrealistic to expect the team to show a semblance of pride against our local rivals and not be EASILY defeated THREE STRAIGHT TIMES.

You and Doocey need to get your head out of the ****ing sand. A handful of decent results in what is a truly awful standard of EPL does not equal fine.

Worst of all is I don't care anymore.

Ashley has two billion in ASSETS. Do you know what that means? It means that Ashley owns things that are worth two billion. In order to have two billion CASH, he would have to sell all if his assets, ie Sports Direct, etc. By contrast, Man City's owners probably have two billion CASH, in their wallet. So, we are not mega rich. And Ashley is a businessman, not an oil baron with a toy to invest his pocket change in.

You lot act as if the club is in a major crisis. Christ, I'd hate to see ye if there was a real one.

Moneymaker

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Ashley has two billion in ASSETS. Do you know what that means? It means that Ashley owns things that are worth two billion. In order to have two billion CASH, he would have to sell all if his assets, ie Sports Direct, etc. By contrast, Man City's owners probably have two billion CASH, in their wallet. So, we are not mega rich. And Ashley is a businessman, not an oil baron with a toy to invest his pocket change in.

You lot act as if the club is in a major crisis. Christ, I'd hate to see ye if there was a real one.

I've been a supporter 22 years. I've seen real crisis. I've seen the club dancing over the trap door. I've seen relegation. I've seen us lose to Wigan reserves with a full strength side. I've seen Ardilles, Gullit, Daglish, Souness and any other failures you can care to mention.

The difference was I actually cared about the club then. I've never had an apathy and indifference towards Newcastle United like I have right now. Everything is so utterly devoid of joy involving this football club right now.

And yes I am aware of what ASSETS vs CASH means. Doesn't excuse his apparent refusal to invest any money on the football team.

M5

Wigan
POrtsmouth
Everton
Swansea
Birmingham
Spurs
Middlesboro
Blackburn
Leicester City
Villa

Thats a list of teams that have won cups since the PL started. If your not in you cant win! But i guess we should not be attempting to compete with them! Much higher level! :rolleyes:

Chazz Michael Michaels

M5 wrote: »

Wigan
POrtsmouth
Swansea
Birmingham
Middlesboro
Blackburn
Leicester City
Villa

I would take our current situation over any of the above.

M5

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

I would take our current situation over any of the above.

Thats not my point! they have actually TRIED to win a cup, we cant be bothered. In fact we look to be actively avoiding success (or at least the EL)

Moneymaker

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

I would take our current situation over any of the above.

That's not the point.

Chazz Michael Michaels

If Wigan weren't distracted by the FA cup, they might still be in the PL.

Which would they rather now?

M5

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

If Wigan weren't distracted by the FA cup, they might still be in the PL.

Which would they rather now?

And the rest?

*again thats completely beside the point. We are absolutely miles away from relegation and could have completely focused on the FA cup with no danger of relegation, we didnt!

Chazz Michael Michaels

M5 wrote: »

And the rest?

*again thats completely beside the point. We are absolutely miles away from relegation and could have completely focused on the FA cup with no danger of relegation, we didnt!

Nope, its completely the point. You can pretend it isn't, if it makes you feel better.

M5

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Nope, its completely the point. You can pretend it isn't, if it makes you feel better.

You again address half my point.... you can ignore that too if it makes you feel better!

Chazz Michael Michaels

Anyone see some retards are calling for people to mass unattend matches?

Yeah, that'll learn em. I swear, I love this sport, but the fans...

M5

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Anyone see some retards are calling for people to mass unattend matches?

Yeah, that'll learn em. I swear, I love this sport, but the fans...

Makes much more sense than not craving success TBH IMO

M5

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Anyone see some retards are calling for people to mass unattend matches?

Yeah, that'll learn em. I swear, I love this sport, but the fans...

Seriously though, aside from all the stuff going on now, do you maintain its not realistic for NUFC to attempt to compete with Everton or Spurs in terms of ambition or success?

Chazz Michael Michaels

M5 wrote: »

Seriously though, do you maintain its not realistic for NUFC to attempt to compete with Everton or Spurs in terms of ambition or success?

In terms of development, we are years behind them. Remember, they have been building towards their current state for over five years, maybe ten. You really need to factor that into your thinking. We recently got promoted. And, despite your misgivings, we have built a *decent* squad, although we lost Cabaye. We could have recruited in Jan, but it probably would have been a panic buy, and why do that when the season is over anyway? (See what panic buys did to Spurs!)

Now, if we reach the summer, and no players are bought? I will join you in protest. If we invest well, in the right areas, then we take a step closer to Spurs/Everton.

M5

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

In terms of development, we are years behind them. Remember, they have been building towards their current state for over five years, maybe ten. You really need to factor that into your thinking. We recently got promoted. And, despite your misgivings, we have built a *decent* squad, although we lost Cabaye. We could have recruited in Jan, but it probably would have been a panic buy, and why do that when the season is over anyway? (See what panic buys did to Spurs!)

Now, if we reach the summer, and no players are bought? I will join you in protest. If we invest well, in the right areas, then we take a step closer to Spurs/Everton.

That was the plan that was allegedly implemented 5 years ago by MA... It has failed.

No signings when we finished 5th, No signings last summer and none this window should make it perfectly clear that there is no desire to challenge those clubs

EDIT: Oh and we finished 5th more recently than being promoted!!

Second edit. Cabaye had an agreement to leave in January. There was ample time to source a replacement. No panic buy required at all

cadete

We will likely sell Ben arfa santon and colo this summer aswell so aside from having only 1 striker and selling our best midfielder we possibly will need to replace the above aswell!

Salmon

I'd say krul will be next out the door! pardew will spend the summer hawking him for the best price!

Pighead

Pardew obviously unimpressed by the owners refusal to spend but isn't going to hang himself by giving out about them.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-vs-sunderland-alan-pardew-3107385#.Uu91O_l_vsY

M5

Pighead wrote: »

Pardew obviously unimpressed by the owners refusal to spend but isn't going to hang himself by giving out about them.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-vs-sunderland-alan-pardew-3107385#.Uu91O_l_vsY

He's part of the problem then....

thats a disgraceful way to act in fairness. As per usual the club ignores any contentious questions!

That_Guy

Jaysus. That article doesn't make for nice reading.

cadete

Good article which hits the nail on the head
http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/englishfootball/barclayspremierleague/newcastle-have-been-sold-down-the-river-tyne-S11363872189882

brevity

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140203/club-statement-joe-kinnear_2281670_3652469

Newcastle United can confirm that Joe Kinnear has this evening resigned from his position as Director of Football with immediate effect.

The Club will be making no further comment.

Pighead

A candidate for the least surprising loss of job in 2014.

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140203/club-statement-joe-kinnear_2281670_3652469

Paully D

He'll have been told to jump before he is pushed to get a bit of support back from the fans after the derby defeat.

GT_TDI_150

Kinnear gone?!?!?


Please do not f*€k with my head!!

Chazz Michael Michaels

Hmm, I wonder how that panned out. Did Pardew make a stand? Is Ashley planning more changes?

That_Guy

Some good news at least.

Dennis Wise in next I wonder? :pac:

GT_TDI_150

personally ... i reckon we need a foreign DoF.

Chazz Michael Michaels

How about Graham Carr?

GT_TDI_150

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

How about Graham Carr?

but will we be able to get a scout as good as him then?

Chazz Michael Michaels

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

but will we be able to get a scout as good as him then?

I guess not. He would be good though.

That_Guy

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

personally ... i reckon we need a foreign DoF.

I thought there wasn't going to be one after the Dennis Wise shambles. Who knows anymore?

Kirby

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Did Pardew make a stand?

Not a chance in hell of it being that. Pardew is just delighted he has the job. He wouldn't dare do or say anything to rock the boat.

cadete

Delighted with the news, we will need a new dof or chief exec im sure,
Ginola as dof any1?

Beekay

Hopefully that means of pardew leaves our gets sacked Kinnear wouldn't be his replacement

Chazz Michael Michaels

Beekay wrote: »

Hopefully that means of pardew leaves our gets sacked Kinnear wouldn't be his replacement

Because that would be too wacky, even for us...... right?









Right?

PauloConn

Best news in ages.....
Goodbye Joe. Director of football with 0 permanent signings. Absolute joke.
Anyway, lets move on and try and finish off the season in a good position

M5

Maybe i'm too Cynical...

Stories doing the rounds yesterday that 500+ season tickets were canceled. Get the feeling that this is a PR exercise. The proof of the pudding will be who is the replacement. If its another lackey that will be confirmed.

We all know who the puppet master is! JFK is just a guy who took a great job offer!

Moneymaker

1 down, 2 to go.

Chazz Michael Michaels

Moneymaker wrote: »

1 down, 2 to go.

Who would replace Pardew? Realistic options only, meaning managers who are available and willing to work at a club of our stature.

Chazz Michael Michaels

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Who would replace Pardew? Realistic options only, meaning managers who are available and willing to work at a club of our stature.

Laudrup?

That_Guy

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Laudrup?

I'd take him in a heart beat.

Healio

Martin Jol anyone?

Moneymaker

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Laudrup?

Yes please.

Healio wrote: »

Martin Jol anyone?

Lord no.

PauloConn

Laudrup would be a great one to take over...... And then Pardew could become director of football.
Then everyone wins