Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

Dempsey

celtic need to score quick or hearts will choke the game completely.

PauloMN

Dempsey wrote: »

celtic need to score quick or hearts will choke the game completely.

Not choking it at all in fairness. We're just gash at the moment. Still 25 mins to grab one back, however another one from Hertz and it's definitely game over.

lubo_moravcik

Hooper really rips my knitting, how the hell does he manage to stay on all the time??????

PauloMN

Lustig and Loovens giving me no confidence at the moment, and K. Wilson not much better. Lustig better going forward than defending. Driver and Skacel getting way too much space.

The_Kew_Tour

Ye were robbed by Ref today lads.

Hard luck. If that was done my team I be savage.

markie29

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ye were robbed by Ref today lads.

Hard luck. If that was done my team I be savage.

too many missed chances by Celtic....they have only themselves to blame imo

TheBuilder

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Ye were robbed by Ref today lads.

Hard luck. If that was done my team I be savage.

The same team of officials that gave them a late offside goal :rolleyes:

Hearts deserved it, Celtic weren't at the races.

spiralism

Season over. Boycott time, dont enter their crooked competitions next year now and join the ****ing conference if you have to. I hope rangers do fold so we get an excuse to get the **** out of this corrupt pile of ****e and never come back. there'll be stories in years to come about Euan Norris bragging about "not giving them fenian bastards anything" just like hugh dallas did at an SFA dinner a few years back

The_Kew_Tour

TheBuilder wrote: »

The same team of officials that gave them a late offside goal :rolleyes:

Hearts deserved it, Celtic weren't at the races.

Hearts should been down to 10 men too...

Missed that one?

TheBuilder

spiralism wrote: »

Season over. Boycott time, dont enter their crooked competitions next year now and join the ****ing conference if you have to. I hope rangers do fold so we get an excuse to get the **** out of this corrupt pile of ****e and never come back. there'll be stories in years to come about Euan Norris bragging about "not giving them fenian bastards anything" just like hugh dallas did at an SFA dinner a few years back

Were you going to mention corruption etc if you had went on to win it after getting a goal that should've been disallowed? Doubt it.

Dry your eyes.

lubo_moravcik

We never deserved anything from that today. No good Lenny blaming officials, again he couldn't get the team up to win a match that mattered. Every time you point a finger Neil, there are three pointing back at you.

the realpigiron

TheBuilder wrote: »

Were you going to mention corruption etc if you had went on to win it after getting a disallowed goal? Doubt it.

Dry your eyes.

How can you get a disallowed goal? On the balance of play Celtic deserved a draw at least. Ki should be shot for his two misses.

TheBuilder

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Hearts should been down to 10 men too...

Missed that one?

I agreed Black should've been off, anyway that proves nothing, its the goals that matter and Celtic didn't take their chances.

Look at Samaras, Stokes and Hooper, not the referee.

TheBuilder

the realpigiron wrote: »

How can you get a disallowed goal? On the balance of play Celtic deserved a draw at least. Ki should be shot for his two misses.

I meant a goal that should've been disallowed, typing too fast lol.

If Celtic had taken their chances they would've won, nobody else to blame.

spiralism

TheBuilder wrote: »

Were you going to mention corruption etc if you had went on to win it after getting a goal that should've been disallowed? Doubt it.

Dry your eyes.

what about them being reduced to ten men and webster clearly handballing just after their second? no pen there naturally. crooked disgrace.

The_Kew_Tour

TheBuilder wrote: »

I agreed Black should've been off, anyway that proves nothing, its the goals that matter and Celtic didn't take their chances.

Look at Samaras, Stokes and Hooper, not the referee.

Could not care less.

Sure we are in final;)

TheBuilder

spiralism wrote: »

what about them being reduced to ten men and webster clearly handballing just after their second? no pen there naturally. crooked disgrace.

If he has a hand on his abdomen he's guilty.

RoryMac

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

We never deserved anything from that today. No good Lenny blaming officials, again he couldn't get the team up to win a match that mattered. Every time you point a finger Neil, there are three pointing back at you.

Agree 100% we were awful today, again too many players didn't turn up. This is the biggest issue Celtic have at the minute and Lennon's attitude towards officials isn't going to help up fix it.

Dempsey

the referee had a shocker but so did celtic. hearts deserved it

TheBuilder

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Could not care less.

Sure we are in final;)

Well the second part was directed at the Celtic fans.

Hibs long wait could finally be coming to an end.

spiralism

TheBuilder wrote: »

If he has a hand on his abdomen he's guilty.

you either give both or neither. what was different between their penalty and that? actually, in our case, the ball was on its way to an unmarked hooper

CSF

spiralism wrote: »

what about them being reduced to ten men and webster clearly handballing just after their second? no pen there naturally. crooked disgrace.

You can't honestly suggest that the one at the end was a peno? Hearts shouldn't have had a peno either but that doesnt make the one at the end a peno.

TheBuilder

spiralism wrote: »

you either give both or neither. what was different between their penalty and that? actually, in our case, the ball was on its way to an unmarked hooper

Well Ledley's arm was up and hit it, Webster didn't handle it.

Lawrence1895

Even if I give out to the ref, Celtic were a bit mediocre there sometimes. The first goal for Hearts was a result of defenders falling asleep, and Ki hitting the post twice...well, call it unlucky or not, he could have done better

Eirebear

Predictable chat in here from the usual faces.

Offside goal, acceptable.
Soft penalty, Crooked.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

spiralism wrote: »

you either give both or neither. what was different between their penalty and that? actually, in our case, the ball was on its way to an unmarked hooper

The difference was in the penalty against you your player had his hand up and slightly out so its a penalty if a bit harsh.
Nothing to do with corrupt refs or the SFA or anyone else Celtic should have buried them on chances missed they didn't and they paid the price

SantryRed

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

The difference was in the penalty against you your player had his hand up and slightly out so its a penalty if a bit harsh.
Nothing to do with corrupt refs or the SFA or anyone else Celtic should have buried them on chances missed they didn't and they paid the price

The ball didn't hit Webster's hand!!!

Lawrence1895

SantryRed wrote: »

The ball didn't hit Webster's hand!!!

Joe Ledley didn't handle the ball on purpose either. We are all even there

Broxi_Bear_Eire

SantryRed wrote: »

The ball didn't hit Webster's hand!!!

Even better;)

spiralism

TheBuilder wrote: »

Well Ledley's arm was up and hit it, Webster didn't handle it.

classic ball to hand, he was a yard away from the shot ffs. the webster penalty was as much a pen as the ledley one - not at all. but if you give one, give the other.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Lars1916 wrote: »

Joe Ledley didn't handle the ball on purpose either. We are all even there

Does have to be on purpose read the rules

donfers

usual garbage here from the rangers lads, every time celtic complain it's injustified according to them - they should really get out of that joke of a league, just find some way to get out

comparing the "offside" goal, which was perhaps 1 mm offside to a decision to give a penalty when the ball was blasted at ledley from a metre away and he wasn't even looking at shows how ridiculous these lads arguments are and how one-eyed their view of the game is - this is exactly why celtic have to escape that toxic league, on top of that just 1 minute later a hearts lad handles in the box and nothing is done, it would be seriously funny if it wasn't so utterly pathetic - but all that is ok because celtic's goal was a millimetre offside, that's how these people view the game, it's not about integrity at all, it's about self-justification through the most warped and disingenuous of lenses


having said all that, celtic were poor today except for the last 15 minutes and I would have been perfectly happy to accept hearts as worthy winners had we not suffered the circus of the double handball fiasco at the end of the game, neither were penalties, one was given, one was not

as i said in the other thread, every time celtic win a trophy in scotland they should really be so proud as it takes a superhuman effort to do it, like women who say they have to work twice as hard as men to get a promotion or get a senior position, celtic need to do more to get results in scotland, hell if it wasn't for staggeringly awful decisions celtic would have the treble but we'll have to settle for being champions for now and hopefully enter a new league as soon as possible, to retire from the scottish league as champions despite everything they threw at us would be sweet

Broxi_Bear_Eire

spiralism wrote: »

classic ball to hand, he was a yard away from the shot ffs. the webster penalty was as much a pen as the ledley one - not at all. but if you give one, give the other.

Duh you can't give the Webster one if it didn't hit his hand

Lawrence1895

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Does have to be on purpose read the rules

'The rules' in general, or 'the rules' in terms of the SFA?

Eirebear

donfers wrote: »

usual garbage here from the rangers lads, every time celtic complain it's injustified according to them - they should really get out of that joke of a league, just find some way to get out

comparing the "offside" goal, which was perhaps 1 mm offside to a decision to give a penalty when the ball was blasted at ledley from a metre away and he wasn't even looking at shows how ridiculous these lads arguments are and how one-eyed their view of the game is - this is exactly why celtic have to escape that toxic league, on top of that just 1 minute later a hearts lad handles in the box and nothing is done, it would be seriously funny if it wasn't so utterly pathetic - but all that is ok because celtic's goal was a millimetre offside, that's how these people view the game, it's not about integrity at all, it's about self-justification through the most warped and disingenuous of lenses


having said all that, celtic were poor today except for the last 15 minutes and I would have been perfectly happy to accept hearts as worthy winners had we not suffered the circus of the double handball fiasco at the end of the game, neither were penalties, one was given, one was not

as i said in the other thread, every time celtic win a trophy in scotland they should really be so proud as it takes a superhuman effort to do it, like women who say they have to work twice as hard as men to get a promotion or get a senior position, celtic need to do more to get results in scotland, hell if it wasn't for staggeringly awful decisions celtic would have the treble but we'll have to settle for being champions for now and hopefully enter a new league as soon as possible, to retire from the scottish league as champions despite everything they threw at us would be sweet

It;s really hard to reply to this because i'm laughing so hard.
Thanks.

TheBuilder

donfers wrote: »

usual garbage here from the rangers lads, every time celtic complain it's injustified according to them - they should really get out of that joke of a league, just find some way to get out

comparing the "offside" goal, which was perhaps 1 mm offside to a decision to give a penalty when the ball was blasted at ledley from a metre away and he wasn't even looking at shows how ridiculous these lads arguments are and how one-eyed their view of the game is - this is exactly why celtic have to escape that toxic league, on top of that just 1 minute later a hearts lad handles in the box and nothing is done, it would be seriously funny if it wasn't so utterly pathetic - but all that is ok because celtic's goal was a millimetre offside, that's how these people view the game, it's not about integrity at all, it's about self-justification through the most warped and disingenuous of lenses


having said all that, celtic were poor today except for the last 15 minutes and I would have been perfectly happy to accept hearts as worthy winners had we not suffered the circus of the double handball fiasco at the end of the game, neither were penalties, one was given, one was not

as i said in the other thread, every time celtic win a trophy in scotland they should really be so proud as it takes a superhuman effort to do it, like women who say they have to work twice as hard as men to get a promotion or get a senior position, celtic need to do more to get results in scotland, hell if it wasn't for staggeringly awful decisions celtic would have the treble but we'll have to settle for being champions for now and hopefully enter a new league as soon as possible, to retire from the scottish league as champions despite everything they threw at us would be sweet

And the Rangers fans are the ones with the warped views, jesus.

Offside is offside, it doesn't matter how far it is, its still offside.

Webster did not handle the ball, so there was no "double handball fiasco".

The referee did not make you lose the treble, Neil Lennon and lazy players lost you the treble.

Last paragraph = HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

spiralism

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Duh you can't give the Webster one if it didn't hit his hand

it hit his arm beneath the shoulder, read the rules.

i'd rather hearts just won one nil tbh, instead of this double penalty fiasco to piss everyone off. it was as much a pen as the first one - it ****ing wasnt. but it's one rule for us and one for everyone else, hence them getting one and us not. this is a league where the former head of reffing was notably sectarian (dallas) and we're still getting ****e decisions against us at least every other week, little ****ing wonder we're paranoid.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

donfers wrote: »

usual garbage here from the rangers lads, every time celtic complain it's injustified according to them - they should really get out of that joke of a league, just find some way to get out

comparing the "offside" goal, which was perhaps 1 mm offside to a decision to give a penalty when the ball was blasted at ledley from a metre away and he wasn't even looking at shows how ridiculous these lads arguments are and how one-eyed their view of the game is - this is exactly why celtic have to escape that toxic league, on top of that just 1 minute later a hearts lad handles in the box and nothing is done, it would be seriously funny if it wasn't so utterly pathetic - but all that is ok because celtic's goal was a millimetre offside, that's how these people view the game, it's not about integrity at all, it's about self-justification through the most warped and disingenuous of lenses

having said all that, celtic were poor today except for the last 15 minutes and I would have been perfectly happy to accept hearts as worthy winners had we not suffered the circus of the double handball fiasco at the end of the game, neither were penalties, one was given, one was not

as i said in the other thread, every time celtic win a trophy in scotland they should really be so proud as it takes a superhuman effort to do it, like women who say they have to work twice as hard as men to get a promotion or get a senior position, celtic need to do more to get results in scotland, hell if it wasn't for staggeringly awful decisions celtic would have the treble but we'll have to settle for being champions for now and hopefully enter a new league as soon as possible, to retire from the scottish league as champions despite everything they threw at us would be sweet

Really that a lot of horses dung you could keep a rose garden manured for a year
Over half his body was offside it was as clear as day
You don't have to be looking for it to be a Pen read the rules
Webster didn't handle the ball

Dry yer eyes

SantryRed

spiralism wrote: »

classic ball to hand, he was a yard away from the shot ffs. the webster penalty was as much a pen as the ledley one - not at all. but if you give one, give the other.

IT.
DID.
NOT.
HIT.
HIS.
HAND.

Jesus christ, only caught the 2nd half. Black should have gone for that tackle in the 1st. I think Hearts fully deserved the win in the 2nd half performance. Celtic weren't very good to be honest.

Lawrence1895

TheBuilder wrote: »

And the Rangers fans are the ones with the warped views, jesus.

Offside is offside, it doesn't matter how far it is, its still offside.

Webster did not handle the ball, so there was no "double handball fiasco".

The referee did not make you lose the treble, Neil Lennon and lazy players lost you the treble.

Last paragraph = HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It's hard to reply to this, because I'm laughing to hard. Thanks

TheBuilder

Lars1916 wrote: »

It's hard to reply to this, because I'm laughing to hard. Thanks

So both the cup final and today was enough to win you the treble? Playing Kelvin Wilson at CB was a good idea? Players not turning up is acceptable, because you can always blame the referee?

I've read some ****e on here, but today takes the piss.

donfers

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Really that a lot of horses dung you could keep a rose garden manured for a year
Over half his body was offside it was as clear as day
You don't have to be looking for it to be a Pen read the rules
Webster didn't handle the ball

Dry yer eyes

let me spell out, there are levels of incompetence when it comes to making decisions

ian black not being sent off - pretty awful decision

hooper not being flagged offside - understandable, it was a very marginal decision

peno to hearts when the ball was slammed into ledley from a yard in the last minute of a cup semi-final = shockingly bad

craig beattie deciding us to show his toned and tanned torso to the world = probably the worst of the lot


laugh all you want lads, we are champions and youz are in administration so i know who'll be laughing last

Lawrence1895

TheBuilder wrote: »

So both the cup final and today was enough to win you the treble? Playing Kelvin Wilson at CB was a good idea? Players not turning up is acceptable, because you can always blame the referee?

I've read some ****e on here, but today takes the piss.

I mentioned already, that Celtic were mediocre sometimes (sorry, if that was in another thread today), but Lenny choosing the wrong players on the wrong position, or the team under performing were not the only reasons.

TheBuilder

Lars1916 wrote: »

I mentioned already, that Celtic were mediocre sometimes (sorry, if that was in another thread today), but Lenny choosing the wrong players on the wrong position, or the team under performing were not the only reasons.

If the team performed and took there chances there would be nothing to complain about, if Stokes and Ki had taken their chances they would've been out of sight.

If Stokes and Ki had taken their chances would people have mentioned the referee? Doubt it.

Lawrence1895

TheBuilder wrote: »

If the team performed and took there chances there would be nothing to complain about, if Stokes and Ki had taken their chances they would've been out of sight.

If Stokes and Ki had taken their chances would people have mentioned the referee? Doubt it.

I don't know, if that penalty would have been awarded, if the match was decided at that stage.

But for me, the first crucial decision was not to send Black off anyway, not that penalty there.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

donfers wrote: »

let me spell out, there are levels of incompetence when it comes to making decisions

ian black not being sent off - pretty awful decision

hooper not being flagged offside - understandable, it was a very marginal decision

peno to hearts when the ball was slammed into ledley from a yard in the last minute of a cup semi-final = shockingly bad

craig beattie deciding us to show his toned and tanned torso to the world = probably the worst of the lot


laugh all you want lads, we are champions and youz are in administration so i know who'll be laughing last

That last line shows you have as much class as your manager

Though I will agree with yo about Beattie

donfers

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

That last line shows you have as much class as your manager

Though I will agree with yo about Beattie

I'll take that as a compliment

Broxi_Bear_Eire

donfers wrote: »

I'll take that as a compliment

As you wish if he is someone you look up to then who am I to argue

spiralism

SantryRed wrote: »

IT.
DID.
NOT.
HIT.
HIS.
HAND.

"It is a foul if a player (other than the goalkeeper inside his own penalty area) deliberately handles the ball (meaning to deliberately touch the ball with any part of the arm from the finger tips to the top of the shoulder)".

:rolleyes:

Lawrence1895

spiralism wrote: »

"It is a foul if a player (other than the goalkeeper inside his own penalty area) deliberately handles the ball (meaning to deliberately touch the ball with any part of the arm from the finger tips to the top of the shoulder)".

:rolleyes:

Did somebody say 'deliberately'?