Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

PauloMN

Nicely tidied up by Stokes, 1-0 to the Champions.

Lovely to see the Thai Tims enjoying their evening in Parkhead.

Dempsey

Certainly not a classic goal but a goal nonetheless.

Rogne has marshaled Cillian Sheridan with ease so far

Izzy's crossing has been poor so far

A Dub in Glasgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ism2_yUCDyg

Pompey Magnus

Not a great game but they did enough to win...Hooper was ridiculously greedy at the end, delighted it was ruled out!

Dempsey

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Not a great game but they did enough to win...Hooper was ridiculously greedy at the end, delighted it was ruled out!

He'll be slagged until the end of the season over that one. Imagine him doing that in a match that mattered, a goal that we needed to get back into a match or a UCL qualifier/group game etc :eek:

A Dub in Glasgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvxcrT__u40

Jelle1880

Apparently STV are saying that Lennon got off lightly, because they couldn't prove he wrote those tweets ?

A bit of a double standard in there imo, considering the amount of people that's been fined, jailed,... for twitter abuse.

A Dub in Glasgo

They are criminal cases where the police have a lot more powers than the SFA to investigate things

bobmalooka

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Apparently STV are saying that Lennon got off lightly, because they couldn't prove he wrote those tweets ?

A bit of a double standard in there imo, considering the amount of people that's been fined, jailed,... for twitter abuse.

The SFA have fined and jailed people for twitter abuse :eek:

dont lose sleep over it jelly, he let the SFA off after their officials made a false report about him being sent off at ibrox.

Jelle1880

bobmalooka wrote: »

The SFA have fined and jailed people for twitter abuse :eek:

dont lose sleep over it jelly, he let the SFA off after their officials made a false report about him being sent off at ibrox.

Aw diddums, what would he have done then, call them 'dirty orange bastards' ? :pac:

bobmalooka

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Aw diddums, what would he have done then, call them 'dirty orange bastards' ? :pac:

is that what he was wrongly accused of saying?

premierstone

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Aw diddums, what would he have done then, call them 'dirty orange bastards' ? :pac:

Think before you open your mouth like a good lad, If a Celtic fan posted that you'd be the first one crying and moaning over it :mad:

lubo_moravcik

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Aw diddums, what would he have done then, call them 'dirty orange bastards' ? :pac:

Bertie Auld to Tiny Wharton(Referee) - "If I call you an a*sehole Mr Wharton will I get booked?"
Tiny. - "Yes Mr Auld. You'd be in trouble."
Bertie.- "What if I just thought you were an a*sehole, what would happen?"
Tiny. - "If you just thought it nothing would happen"
Bertie. - "Well Mr Wharton, I think you're an a*sehole"

Dempsey

ColeTrain wrote: »

Ibrahim is on the bench too. Hope he gets a run out

Wilson is the captain. Probably to let him leave on a high. Bangura hat trick please...

You're right, that was Mark Wilson's last game for Celtic.

Neil Lennon after the match



Great servant to the club and a very consistent performer despite his injury problems. Best of luck to him.

PauloMN

Dempsey wrote: »

You're right, that was Mark Wilson's last game for Celtic.

Neil Lennon after the match



Great servant to the club and a very consistent performer despite his injury problems. Best of luck to him.

Where has the time gone? 6 and a half years.... seems like yesterday he came from Dundee Utd..

Never an outstanding talent, but was pretty consistent and solid at right-back. Shame about his injuries. I'd have Matthews over him, but he's as good as Cha imo, and Lustig is a completely unproven entity at this stage.

Best of luck to him. Wonder will he play in Scotland or head down south?

eire4

Seeing Mark Wilson lead Celtic out as Captain on Thursday night against St Johnstone and get the kind of send off a true Celt such as he is was the best part of Thursdays game for me other then getting the win.
Where ever he ends up playing next season I hope the move works out well for him.

eire4

Looking forward to hopefully an entertaining game tomorrow at Tannadice and maybe another chance to see a few of our youth players again. Maybe Tony Watt gets another run out.

ColeTrain

Fair play to Mark Wilson alright. In his first season he looked a great prospect but he really suffered with the injuries. Still had a good season for us last year. All the best to him.

I hope some of the fringe players get another run out tomorrow.

Dempsey

ColeTrain wrote: »

Fair play to Mark Wilson alright. In his first season he looked a great prospect but he really suffered with the injuries. Still had a good season for us last year. All the best to him.

I hope some of the fringe players get another run out tomorrow.

He was brilliant up until his foot injury vs Man Utd, he could have been so much more if not for injuries.

I'll only get to see the 1st half tomorrow, hopefully all the action is in that. :pac:

blahfckingblah

this game shows how idiotic the touchline ban is... Neil Lennon is in the seat directly behind the dug out with an assistant beside him carrying messages and banging on the glass to get the attention of those on the bench haha

Prop Joe

Just seen this story and it turns out the boy is a massive Celtic fan...one for the future surly

http://bigredbench.blogspot.com/2012/05/13-year-old-set-for-senior-debut-in.html

Dempsey

blahfckingblah wrote: »

this game shows how idiotic the touchline ban is... Neil Lennon is in the seat directly behind the dug out with an assistant beside him carrying messages and banging on the glass to get the attention of those on the bench haha

He looks like a school teacher! :pac:

lubo_moravcik

Tony Watt

A Dub in Glasgo

That game epitomises why we need a big target man

lubo_moravcik

Well played Dundee United, good team of players there.

TheBuilder

Mulgrew player of the year, fully deserved.

Forrest young player of the year, undeserved in my opinion, thought Mackay-Steven deserved that one.

rosskind

What formation did we play today? Couldn't quite make it out from the teamsheet.

rosskind

In fairness, Forrest really held us together back when we were in trouble (single-handedly won that game at Easter Road). Was arguably the only player performing, right at a time when Lennon was under serious pressure.

Yeah he's had a dip in form, and been injured a bit, but you could hardly expect such a young player to keep that up. I can't comment on Mackay-Steven, but I'm glad his (Forrest's) early season form hasn't been forgotten.

TheBuilder

Not taking away from Forrest's season, I just think Mackay-Steven has been a standout over the course of the whole season

eire4

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

That game epitomises why we need a big target man

I would agree with that. We badly need a target man type striker for next season.

eire4

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

Tony Watt

He did look lively in that second didn't he. Good pace and movement.

the realpigiron

Rumours on twitter that Celtic will resign from the SPL if Rangers are allowed to remain in the SPL while welching on their debts. The issue here is bigger than Rangers. If Rangers are allowed to get off with a slap on the wrist while maintaining their SPL status, what's to stop other SPL clubs who have debts doing the same? Will UEFA turn a blind eye to a policy where Rangers can welch on debts - with no severe sanction like relegation being imposed - for the so called good of the game in Scotland? If Celtic were to resign, could this be their exit strategy to apply to play in the lower leagues in england with a view to being in the EPL in maybe 4 years? If Scottish football is royally fooked anyway could this be Celtic's best option? Lots of questions and speculation.

Jelle1880

I highly doubt that Celtic would resign.

They will raise hell, surely, but resign ?

the realpigiron

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I highly doubt that Celtic would resign.

They will raise hell, surely, but resign ?

I doubt it too, or at least I doubt they'd resign unless they had a foolproof plan that they will be accepted into a lower division in England with a view to being in the EPL within a few years. They might be looking at something like that in a more serious way than ever. The game in Scotland is in serious trouble with or without Rangers being allowed to maintain top flight status while welching on their debts. The TV companies might pull the plug if a Rangers newco is not in the SPL, but what precedent does it set if a Rangers newco aren't issued with severe sanction like relegation? Rangers really have made a mess of things.

Dempsey

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I highly doubt that Celtic would resign.

They will raise hell, surely, but resign ?

Why would Celtic allow cheats a reprieve. Any light punishment against Rangers would only encourage more cheating.

PauloMN

Dempsey wrote: »

Why would Celtic allow cheats a reprieve. Any light punishment against Rangers would only encourage more cheating.

Celtic's main focus has to be what's best for Celtic. Nothing else. It is up to the SFA/SPL and possibly UEFA to punish Rangers FC.

Celtic should insist that any club that breaks the rules to the level that Rangers FC did is severely punished, but the notion that Celtic would "resign" from the SPL is ridiculous.

Dempsey

PauloMN wrote: »

Celtic's main focus has to be what's best for Celtic. Nothing else. It is up to the SFA/SPL and possibly UEFA to punish Rangers FC.

Celtic should insist that any club that breaks the rules to the level that Rangers FC did is severely punished, but the notion that Celtic would "resign" from the SPL is ridiculous.

Whats the point in competing in a competition that doesnt have proper punishments for cheats?

A Dub in Glasgo

That is the problem with rumours, it is full of shit

the realpigiron

PauloMN wrote: »

Celtic's main focus has to be what's best for Celtic. Nothing else. It is up to the SFA/SPL and possibly UEFA to punish Rangers FC.

Celtic should insist that any club that breaks the rules to the level that Rangers FC did is severely punished, but the notion that Celtic would "resign" from the SPL is ridiculous.

Doing what's best for Celtic might entail resigning from the SPL if they were guaranteed entry into league football in England. Celtic can certainly continue to operate in Scotland and even flourish if they can secure regular CL Group Stage football. There's an element of chance and gamble no matter what they do.

The crux of the matter is, I don't think that a Rangers newco being allowed to maintain SPL status is ethically or in the long run fiscally feasible for Scottish football, given that other clubs with debts might just do the same thing. I'm not sure UEFA will stand for that either.

PauloMN

Dempsey wrote: »

Whats the point in competing in a competition that doesnt have proper punishments for cheats?

The point is staying alive. All very well if there's some grand plan to join the English league or something, but any reaction to any notion of Celtic joining an English league has generally been met with "GTF" by English clubs.

Much as we'd all like to get out of that ****ty league, there's no alternative to the SPL at present for Celtic - plain and simple. We have to stay in it, and hope that fit and proper punishments are dished out to those who play outside the rules.

Dempsey

PauloMN wrote: »

The point is staying alive. All very well if there's some grand plan to join the English league or something, but any reaction to any notion of Celtic joining an English league has generally been met with "GTF" by English clubs.

Much as we'd all like to get out of that ****ty league, there's no alternative to the SPL at present for Celtic - plain and simple. We have to stay in it, and hope that fit and proper punishments are dished out to those who play outside the rules.

I'm well aware of the english league's attitude towards celtic, im well aware of celtics position. Currently, it seems that commercial contracts outweigh sporting integrity. I will be switching off if thats the case tbh, i've no interest in "sports entertainment"

PauloMN

Dempsey wrote: »

I'm well aware of the english league's attitude towards celtic, im well aware of celtics position. Currently, it seems that commercial contracts outweigh sporting integrity. I will be switching off if thats the case tbh, i've no interest in "sports entertainment"

I'm not arguing that Celtic should vote against a newco just being allowed to march in and continue where Rangers left off, without sanctions and being allowed to write off HMRC and other creditor debts. I would hope Celtic strongly fight against such a situation, as I do think the "commercial interests over sporting integrity" comments are disgraceful.

That's different from packing the bags and resigning from the league though. What would that achieve? I want a club to follow, even if it means continuing in the SPL for the short term.

Dempsey

PauloMN wrote: »

I'm not arguing that Celtic should vote against a newco just being allowed to march in and continue where Rangers left off, without sanctions and being allowed to write off HMRC and other creditor debts. I would hope Celtic strongly fight against such a situation, as I do think the "commercial interests over sporting integrity" comments are disgraceful.

That's different from packing the bags and resigning from the league though. What would that achieve? I want a club to follow, even if it means continuing in the SPL for the short term.

I do too but not at that cost. Seems that Celtic and Rangers are too big to punish properly, makes me mad tbh

the realpigiron

Dempsey wrote: »

I do too but not at that cost. Seems that Celtic and Rangers are too big to punish properly, makes me mad tbh

UEFA may step in if Rangers aren't punished properly. A Rangers newco not being relegated for the so called fiscal good of Scottish football, might set a precedent and open a can of worms that they can't allow to happen.

TheBuilder

I really wish fans Scottish teams would dump this idea of joining the English leagues, it's all well and good saying to go, but are fans going to accept leaving Ibrox and Parkhead to relocate? No chance.

FIFA and UEFA will never allow it, as it opens up too many possibilities of mixing leagues all over the place.

TheBuilder

the realpigiron wrote: »

Dempsey wrote: »

I do too but not at that cost. Seems that Celtic and Rangers are too big to punish properly, makes me mad tbh

UEFA may step in if Rangers aren't punished properly. A Rangers newco not being relegated for the so called fiscal good of Scottish football, might set a precedent and open a can of worms that they can't allow to happen.

UEFA are the biggest bunch of crooks going, they won't touch this with a barge pole in my opinion. They're too afraid of battles.

Pompey Magnus

TheBuilder wrote: »

I really wish fans Scottish teams would dump this idea of joining the English leagues, it's all well and good saying to go, but are fans going to accept leaving Ibrox and Parkhead to relocate? No chance.

I was under the impression that the clubs would have continued playing in Glasgow but would simply have changed leagues, no?

I agree though, never going to happen and neither should it.

the realpigiron

TheBuilder wrote: »

I really wish fans Scottish teams would dump this idea of joining the English leagues, it's all well and good saying to go, but are fans going to accept leaving Ibrox and Parkhead to relocate? No chance.

Who says they'd have to relocate if such a thing were to happen? Cardiff and Swansea aren't located in England.

TheBuilder wrote: »

FIFA and UEFA will never allow it, as it opens up too many possibilities of mixing leagues all over the place.

UEFA might not turn a blind eye to a Rangers newco being allowed to waltz straight into the SPL either.

TheBuilder

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

TheBuilder wrote: »

I really wish fans Scottish teams would dump this idea of joining the English leagues, it's all well and good saying to go, but are fans going to accept leaving Ibrox and Parkhead to relocate? No chance.

I was under the impression that the clubs would have continued playing in Glasgow but would simply have changed leagues, no?

I agree though, never going to happen and neither should it.

Afraid not, it's FIFA rule that you can't compete in a league under another FA unless the country you are based in has no professional set up. It would mean relocating to England. Cardiff and Swansea joined the English league before the Welsh FA was established.

I'm sure it would be allowed in extreme circumstances, but I don't think it would work in this case.

Jelle1880

How about Berwick then ?
Or Gretna, they played in England once.