Everton Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

eh i dunno

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/06/30/what-the-papers-say-30-june

Apparently we are on the verge of signing Daniel Pranjic, he was supposed to come in January according to the above link but it collapsed - seen by many as a replacement for Baines.

I'd sell Baines if we got 15-20m. Bring in Donavon, Pienaar, Pranjic for about 10m and a few quid for back up to Jelavic

Columbia

eh i dunno wrote: »

I'd sell Baines if we got 15-20m. Bring in Donavon, Pienaar, Pranjic for about 10m and a few quid for back up to Jelavic

My only objection to that plan is Donovan, Pienaar and Pranjic are all the wrong side of 30. I'd prefer to sign Pranjic and either Donovan or Pienaar, and pick up a couple of younger players with whatever's left.



edit: No better place for my 1,000th post :P

Hercule Poirot

Naismith will be OK to come in, mid-twenties (25?), but yeah Pranjic is too old

eh i dunno

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Naismith will be OK to come in, mid-twenties (25?), but yeah Pranjic is too old

Haven't seen much of Naismith but free and Jelavic likes playing with him so worth a punt. Baines rumours growing this morning tho and talk of Moyes wanting Dempsey but the club not so keen as no resale value

Hercule Poirot

Apparently Baines will go if the club accept an offer, it's just a matter of matching valuations according to the media. United are aware of the obvious financial difficulties we have and are naturally trying to take advantage (who wouldn't?). We're looking for 15m - 20m, United are only offering peanuts in comparison - will probably go for around 10m tho.

eh i dunno

Will be shocking if we dont get 15m for Baines.
Good Everton source on Twitter reckons Pranjic and Naismith will be coming in. Both free which makes it believable

Hercule Poirot

Definately take them both on frees, Naismith is valued around 5/6m so could be a steal. Don't want to take Pranjic as a replacement for Baines, may be forced to eat my words but he is not good enough. I'm hope I'm wrong though.

Hercule Poirot

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/07/04/blues-land-naismith

Naismith confirmed, we took a chance on a player with dodgy knees not so long ago and sold him for 24m! And he's free...

ciaran76

I reckon Baines will be sold am hearing it from too many sources now that I reckon it will happen.

average_runner

Why utd though, they wont drop Evra will they?

thebaz

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

United are aware of the obvious financial difficulties we have and are naturally trying to take advantage (who wouldn't?).

we've had financial difficulties now for nearly 20 years , why the hell wont Billy K not sell up ? , if he can not take the club any further and is such a beloved fan - if it wasnt for the miracle of Moyes we would be languishing in lower leagues - there are plenty of people willing to invest in big English clubs , why is Nottingham forest more attractive than EFC - then again perhaps Billy K has no intention of selling, which is my gut fealing

average_runner

thebaz wrote: »

we've had financial difficulties now for nearly 20 years , why the hell wont Billy K not sell up ? , if he can not take the club any further and is such a beloved fan - if it wasnt for the miracle of Moyes we would be languishing in lower leagues - there are plenty of people willing to invest in big English clubs , why is Nottingham forest more attractive than EFC - then again perhaps Billy K has no intention of selling, which is my gut fealing

There are many reasons why he cant sell the club:
1) Who be interested in a club where there is no sign of them making money from.
2) We have a very old stadium
3) We are unattractive because we are in the shadows of Liverpool, we need a bllioniare to turn that around.
4) We dont want the club sold to anyone, look at blackburn and birmingham for example.
5) Kenwright and the currents investors will want their money back.

thebaz

average_runner wrote: »

There are many reasons why he cant sell the club:
1) Who be interested in a club where there is no sign of them making money from.
2) We have a very old stadium

5) Kenwright and the currents investors will want their money back.

my point is leeds are due investment, fair eneogh , but why are Nottingham Forest more attractive to wealty owners - the Moyes miracle will last only so long , before lack of expenditure or he himself gets fed up

average_runner

thebaz wrote: »

my point is leeds are due investment, fair eneogh , but why are Nottingham Forest more attractive to wealty owners - the Moyes miracle will last only so long , before lack of expenditure or he himself gets fed up

Because Forest are cheap to buy and are the biggest club in their city, therefore there is potential there without costing much!!

amiable

Junior Hoilett in talks with Everton

Mr Alan

Did he not already move to a German club?!

amiable

Mr Alan wrote: »

Did he not already move to a German club?!

I thought so too but apparently not. Borussia Monchengladbach were the club.

Lumbo

Ah here. Signing one player before the end of August is enough excitement for our fans.

thebaz

amiable wrote: »

Junior Hoilett in talks with Everton

if we get him , he would be a great signing - excellent player - just what we need

Third_Echelon

thebaz wrote: »

amiable wrote: »

Junior Hoilett in talks with Everton

if we get him , he would be a great signing - excellent player - just what we need

Naismith and Hoilett and it's only July!? talk of pranjic as well by the weekend!? jesus I'm getting dizzy spells here. Surely we can only sign players on deadline day at 10 minutes before midnight after selling someone? no? ;-)

anyone have the obligatory YouTube video of Hoilett being awesome?

Laois_Man

I think the stroy is that Moyes told Hoilett to feck off coz of excessive wage demands. And although he's out of contract, Blackburn are expecting a £4 Million development fee because of his age!

Apparently we're in talks in Jean-Jacques Gosso - a defensive midfielder come right-back from Ivory Coast currently playing for Orduspor in Turkey whose chairman has said Everton have been given permission to talk to the player!

thebaz

Laois_Man wrote: »

I think the stroy is that Moyes told Hoilett to feck off coz of excessive wage demands. And although he's out of contract, Blackburn are expecting a £4 Million development fee because of his age!

I'd say it was Kenwright who told him to feck off, kind of fealt this would happen , with a player of his class , given our never ceasing financial situation

eh i dunno

An extra 2 days to wait for our first game now :mad:

Hercule Poirot

We've also told Hugo Rodallega to feck off, wanted 70k a week. 70k? Be lucky to get €70 a week after scoring 2 goals in 21 games. He'll be ok though, apparently Fulham are going to be stupid enough to pay it!

eh i dunno

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

We've also told Hugo Rodallega to feck off, wanted 70k a week. 70k? Be lucky to get €70 a week after scoring 2 goals in 21 games. He'll be ok though, apparently Fulham are going to be stupid enough to pay it!

Madness that he can look for 70k a week. Hopefully Pienaar will be signed up soon and Hoillet if were lucky

Lumbo

eh i dunno wrote: »

Madness that he can look for 70k a week. Hopefully Pienaar will be signed up soon and Hoillet if were lucky

Peanuts is leaving Spurs anyway. He didn't appear in their team photo. I hope they're not hoping to get much for him. Cause we don't have it.

carbon nanotube

70grand a week

hahahahahahahaha

fulham are paying him this.

LOL

Moyes would not pay him 20/30k a week.



70 grand..

:pac:

SickBoy

According to SSN we are in talks with Spurs for Pienaar.

Lumbo

SickBoy wrote: »

According to SSN we are in talks with Spurs for Pienaar.

The Daily Fail says the fee is £5m

eh i dunno

Pranjic has joined Sporting Lisbon so thats one off the rumour mill

Hercule Poirot

eh i dunno wrote: »

Pranjic has joined Sporting Lisbon so thats one off the rumour mill

To be honest, not that said to see it happen, wouldn't have made the first team in my opinion.

eh i dunno

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

To be honest, not that said to see it happen, wouldn't have made the first team in my opinion.

He would make it at left back if the Baines rumours this morning are true. And for 10m? i expect 15m at least. Saying that if Baines goes i'd prefer a younger left back than Pranjic.

Francie Barrett

Why would Everton sell Pienaar for £3 million only to buy him back for £5 after a poor season at Spurs? Not like he's getting any younger either.

SickBoy

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Why would Everton sell Pienaar for £3 million only to buy him back for £5 after a poor season at Spurs? Not like he's getting any younger either.

It was either sell him for £3million at that point or risk him not renewing his contract(which he wasn't going to do at the time) and getting SFA for him in the next transfer window.

Lumbo

SickBoy wrote: »

It was either sell him for £3million at that point or risk him not renewing his contract(which he wasn't going to do at the time) and getting SFA for him in the next transfer window.

We would have got £0 for him. It's not worked out bad in the end and that figure of £5m isn't even confirmed. I'm sure Bill is offering £2m and a truck loads of Everton mints, paid in 50 yearly instalments.

SickBoy

Lumbo wrote: »

SickBoy wrote: »

It was either sell him for £3million at that point or risk him not renewing his contract(which he wasn't going to do at the time) and getting SFA for him in the next transfer window.

We would have got £0 for him. It's not worked out bad in the end and that figure of £5m isn't even confirmed. I'm sure Bill is offering £2m and a truck loadsall of Everton mints, paid in 50 yearly instalments.

SFA = sweet fcuk all...

Hercule Poirot

I've heard an initial 2.5m, rising up to 5m (on appearences I presume, or if we qualify europe) - not a bad deal if that is the case. His stint last season showed what he can do outside Arteta's shadow.

eh i dunno

Yobo nearly a done deal. Hopefully that frees up cash for Pienaar

Hercule Poirot

eh i dunno wrote: »

Yobo nearly a done deal. Hopefully that frees up cash for Pienaar

That's been a done deal the last two summers

He always put in a decent shift but not reliable enough imo, he's happy to stay where he is and we are happy to get a few bob for him - approx. 2-3m I've read

eh i dunno

Sad day with Cahill leaving for the US. Everton legend

Lumbo

eh i dunno wrote: »

Sad day with Cahill leaving for the US. Everton legend

Great servant to the club. Sorry to see him go.

Pienaar deal is apparently done

thebaz

eh i dunno wrote: »

Sad day with Cahill leaving for the US. Everton legend

Moyes besting signing ?

legend is right

Lumbo

thebaz wrote: »

Moyes besting signing ?

legend is right

£1.5m - 68 goals. Better then most of the strikers Moyes has bought.

Col200sx

thebaz wrote: »

Moyes besting signing ?

I'd go as far as saying one of the best ever Premier League signings

Hercule Poirot

Think it was best for the player and the club, we accepted a minimal fee (~1m) in difference to his tremendous level of service, I hope he makes millions over there because he deserves it. The best Everton player of the last decade.

eh i dunno

Fee agreed for Piennar

Hercule Poirot

Was about to post that myself - about feckin' time. There were rumours that QPR or Sunderland were sniffing but Peanuts made it clear to Spurs that there was only one place he wanted to go

Lumbo

ciaran76

Who wants to strat the 2013 thread?

Lumbo

I'll do it. Actually, would we not be better off editing the title of this one?