The West Wing *Spoilers*

The Black Oil

Revising for the quiz. :pac:

syklops

SarahBM wrote: »

You can come too!

Awesome! Count me in. I'll add it to the auld diary.

SarahBM

Cool!!! PM me closer the time! Oh I am so excited!

Manchester Part II - Poor CJ! She is getting such a hard time! I hate Bruno and the bald and the bald guy.

The Black Oil

I liked Bruno, but the bald guy can go and jump. Same when he's in other shows.

syklops

The Black Oil wrote: »

I liked Bruno, but the bald guy can go and jump. Same when he's in other shows.

He goes on to marry Charlotte in sex and the city and they dont even have any sex. He used to jack off to Porn mags but not be able to get it up for her.

What a louser.

Sam: It seems to me, you're job is to wait for when Doug has left the room and say "What Doug meant was..."

G_R

If anyone comes across another West Wing table quiz can you post the details up here again - I would kick ass!

WesternNight

syklops wrote: »

He goes on to marry Charlotte in sex and the city and they dont even have any sex. He used to jack off to Porn mags but not be able to get it up for her.

What a louser.

That was a different husband...

syklops

WesternNight wrote: »

That was a different husband...

OK, then count me out for any sex in the city table quizes.

syklops

Grand_Rajnah wrote: »

If anyone comes across another West Wing table quiz can you post the details up here again - I would kick ass!

I was amazed to hear about this one coming up, I cant see another one happening... unless we do one ourselves.

SarahBM

syklops wrote: »

I was amazed to hear about this one coming up, I cant see another one happening... unless we do one ourselves.

Spun Out do a themed table quiz once a month to raise money. the last one I was at was a Game of Thrones one and they mentioned it, but they had said it was selling out fast at that stage. If this one is very popular they may do another one so many months down the line. Really looking forward to it.

SarahBM

One of the best pieces of tv ever!

The Butterball Hotline

Brilliant!!

syklops

SarahBM wrote: »

One of the best pieces of tv ever!

The Butterball Hotline

Brilliant!!

Thats probably my favourite part ever.

I love how Toby is so on the ball he gets a zip code ready for him.

"Zip code, Fargo North Dakota, right now please". And whoever answers the phone knows to just do it and not ask why.

SarahBM

The president doing Charlie's tax returns!!! LOL

SarahBM

So I have just finished watching the end of season 3. I noticed something.
Someone tells Sam he is going to run for president someday and win.
I was thinking wouldn't it be great if they brought back the West Wing now! With Sam as president!!! That would be awesome! Sorry I am just fantasizing away here! I think it is because I know Sam is going to leave and I know it is going to be soon and I just don't want it to happen
The season finale when agent Donavan gets shot is just heartbreaking. But when the President goes to Richie
"When you said "Crime, um, I don't know"? Yeah, that's when I decided to kick your ass!"
Brilliant!
Now I am debating whether or not to get straight into season 4 or to try get some sleep!

SarahBM

Another one of my favourite Josh moments!

deafroadrunner

Discovered this thread in the last week and now I'm rewatching the west wing after only finishing 4 months again

SarahBM

we need to have secret addiction meetings like Hoynes and Leo! LOL

Im up as far as ep 8 in season 4. Sam has just decided to run in the california 47th I dont want Sam to leave!

deafroadrunner

SarahBM wrote: »

we need to have secret addiction meetings like Hoynes and Leo! LOL

Im up as far as ep 8 in season 4. Sam has just decided to run in the california 47th I dont want Sam to leave!

Sam is definitely one of my favourites just not the same without him only on second episode now. One thing I picked up in the first episode was when Sam was at Lauries she mentioned potus. Being a law student I would of thought she should of known what potus stands for.

syklops

deafroadrunner wrote: »

Sam is definitely one of my favourites just not the same without him only on second episode now. One thing I picked up in the first episode was when Sam was at Lauries she mentioned potus. Being a law student I would of thought she should of known what potus stands for.

Well she had read it on Sams pager so maybe it depends how it was written. She'd be used to seeing it as POTUS, but the pager text might have said "Potus in a bicycle accident", which made her think it was someones name. Plus it wouldnt cross your mind that the guy you just slept with works for the president. Plus she was sort of wasted at the time.

The bigger plot hole for me is the sequence of events around that. Sam has a late night drink and goes back to Lauries house. He gets paged at 5am or so to go to the office because potus was in a bicycle accident. Unless he was cycling at 3am?

Also, why did they page Sam to begin with? CJ made a press statement, the press laughed, end of.

It is rare for me to poke holes in my favourite TV program, but it does happen from time to time.

deafroadrunner

C.j: Josh there's an article in the new yorker I want you to read.
Josh : what's it about?
C.j: smallpox
josh: the disease?
C.j: no the desert topping Josh yes, the disease.

Pissed my hole laughing

SarahBM

CJ is my hero!!! There is an exchange between here the others where she equates the situation to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Priceless. Can't remember exactly which episode. But I think she has some of the best lines!

WesternNight

SarahBM wrote: »

CJ is my hero!!! There is an exchange between here the others where she equates the situation to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Priceless. Can't remember exactly which episode. But I think she has some of the best lines!

Ah, LemonLyman.com!

The episode was The US Poet Laureate.

C.J: Let me explain something to you, this is sort of my field. The people on these sites? They're the cast of One Flew Over the Cookoo's Nest. The muumuu wearing Parliament smoker? That's Nurse Ratched. When Nurse Ratched's unhappy, the patients are unhappy. You? You're McMurphy. You swoop in there with your card games and your fishing trips...

Josh: I didn't swoop in! I came in exactly the same way everybody else did!

CJ: Well, now I'm telling you to open the ward room window and climb on out before they give you a pre-frontal lobotomy and I have to smother you with a pillow.

The Black Oil

A pity Aaron's TV writing hasn't been much to much since tWW.

SarahBM

Sam for president!!!

SarahBM

The episode with CJ's dad is hard to watch

1huge1

SarahBM wrote: »

The episode with CJ's dad is hard to watch

Agreed, really good quality TV right there.

SarahBM wrote: »

Sam for president!!!

I loved Arnie Vinick, the exact kind of Republican I would like to see in office, a pure libertarian true and true.

cjmcork

re-watching for about the 10th time- it's my comfort food when I need something cosy to watch - I would SO clean up at that table quiz - a guy did it as his specialist subject a few years ago on Mastermind - he got 15, I got 16 - my mother was appalled :eek:

watching Season 2 - Ep 4 - Ainsley's first appearance - I did enjoy her, I didn't enjoy Mandy or the wan that Josh was going with, whose name escapes me now but had legs all the way to the floor, my friend...........

SarahBM

cjmcork wrote: »

re-watching for about the 10th time- it's my comfort food when I need something cosy to watch - I would SO clean up at that table quiz - a guy did it as his specialist subject a few years ago on Mastermind - he got 15, I got 16 - my mother was appalled :eek:

watching Season 2 - Ep 4 - Ainsley's first appearance - I did enjoy her, I didn't enjoy Mandy or the wan that Josh was going with, whose name escapes me now but had legs all the way to the floor, my friend...........

Amy Gardner - I couldn't really warm to her either. It seemed to me like she was always flirting, even with the First Lady!
I liked Ainsley much more the second time round!
Mandy was just a pain in the face.

cjmcork

I forward through most things that Mandy is in, she kills S1 for me :-(

SarahBM

Im more than half way through season 4, and to me, President Bartlet is getting more and more grouchy. He snaps at people, he is very smart-arsed in the briefings, especially the military ones. Is he trying to draw attention away from the fact that the MS is getting worse?

Jawgap

The speech in 'The Mid-Terms' is brilliant, a perfect riposte to Bible-bashers!

President Josiah Bartlet: Good. I like your show. I like how you call homosexuality an abomination.

Dr. Jenna Jacobs: I don't say homosexuality is an abomination, Mr. President. The Bible does.

President Josiah Bartlet: Yes, it does. Leviticus.

Dr. Jenna Jacobs: 18:22.

President Josiah Bartlet: Chapter and verse. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions while I had you here. I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, always cleared the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be? While thinking about that, can I ask another? My Chief of Staff Leo McGarry insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or is it okay to call the police? Here's one that's really important 'cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: Touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. Leviticus 11:7. If they promise to wear gloves, can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point? Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother John for planting different crops side by side? Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads? Think about those questions, would you? One last thing: While you may be mistaking this for your monthly meeting of the Ignorant Tight-Ass Club, in this building, when the President stands, nobody sits.

The opening of the debate with James Brolin (Governor Ritchie) is a close second.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyqzPu5pX6U

cjmcork

'my question is, can we have it back please?'..............brilliant :-)

Jawgap

Ritchie, I think it's fair to say, was meant to be Bush

Then there was the 'ten word answer' in that debate.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85dKvletfSo

SarahBM

I love the way when anyone says Bartlet or him, Leo or Josh or Donna or Sam always correct them! "it's Mr President or President Bartlett!"

When the president stands nobody sits! Brilliant!!!

syklops

SarahBM wrote: »

I love the way when anyone says Bartlet or him, Leo or Josh or Donna or Sam always correct them! "it's Mr President or President Bartlett!"

When the president stands nobody sits! Brilliant!!!

Hoynes: You know what Leo Im getting kind of tired of you and your PAL!
Leo: Are you referring to the President of the United States as my pal?
<Hoynes nods>
Leo: Refer to him that way!

Jawgap

Possibly my favourite exchange from the WW....

Sam Seaborn: About a week ago I accidentally slept with a prostitute.
Toby Ziegler: [pause] Really?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Toby Ziegler: You accidentally slept with a prostitute?
Sam Seaborn: A call girl.
Toby Ziegler: Accidentally?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Toby Ziegler: I don't understand. Did you trip over something?

syklops

Jawgap wrote: »

Possibly my favourite exchange from the WW....

Sam Seaborn: About a week ago I accidentally slept with a prostitute.
Toby Ziegler: [pause] Really?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Toby Ziegler: You accidentally slept with a prostitute?
Sam Seaborn: A call girl.
Toby Ziegler: Accidentally?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Toby Ziegler: I don't understand. Did you trip over something?

Toby got some great lines. Such a pity what they did with his character.

maudgonner

The episode of The Good Wife that aired last night (in the US) was a complete West-Wing-fest. I won't give details for fear of spoiling it for anyone, but three WW actors feature and they reference the show itself in a pretty funny way.

Oh, and this is my favourite funny bit from the show, when the president overdoes the painkillers. He's seriously thinking about getting a dog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPb6uVEGjLw

Dog of Tears

It was a series I missed first time around, but I'm catching up with it at the moment on Netflix.
I'm about 5 episodes into Series 2 and enjoying it.

It's real 'Sunday evening' tv - when you don't want anything too in your face.


Quick question - is it a Series that maintains a high quality right to the end, or is it one of those shows where there's a significant drop-off in quality after a particular season?

syklops

Dog of Tears wrote: »

It was a series I missed first time around, but I'm catching up with it at the moment on Netflix.
I'm about 5 episodes into Series 2 and enjoying it.

It's real 'Sunday evening' tv - when you don't want anything too in your face.


Quick question - is it a Series that maintains a high quality right to the end, or is it one of those shows where there's a significant drop-off in quality after a particular season?

Rather than a significant drop off in quality, I would say it tapers downhill. A bad episode of the west wing is better than a good day of many other shows. I'd say it peaks in Season 4 so you have lots of good stuff still to watch.

Jawgap

Dog of Tears wrote: »

It was a series I missed first time around, but I'm catching up with it at the moment on Netflix.
I'm about 5 episodes into Series 2 and enjoying it.

It's real 'Sunday evening' tv - when you don't want anything too in your face.


Quick question - is it a Series that maintains a high quality right to the end, or is it one of those shows where there's a significant drop-off in quality after a particular season?

Pretty much what Syklops said - second half of Season 4, Season 5 and a good chunk of 6 were 'different' but still watchable.

Season 7 I just thought it was getting its 'game' back when it was cancelled - a real pity because it seemed the writers had hit on a rich seam they could've mined for another couple of seasons at least.

syklops

Jawgap wrote: »

Pretty much what Syklops said - second half of Season 4, Season 5 and a good chunk of 6 were 'different' but still watchable.

Season 7 I just thought it was getting its 'game' back when it was cancelled - a real pity because it seemed the writers had hit on a rich seam they could've mined for another couple of seasons at least.

The biggest obstacle for the writers was the passing of John Spencer. He had some of his best episodes in season 7 which means he went out on a high note at least.

SarahBM

This is only my second time going through it. People had said to me the first time round that it dips after season 4 but I didn't think so. I would love for them to revive it now, with Sam going for president! Wishful thinking I suppose, but I'm. Dying to know what happened to them all after the Bartlet administration.

syklops

SarahBM wrote: »

This is only my second time going through it. People had said to me the first time round that it dips after season 4 but I didn't think so. I would love for them to revive it now, with Sam going for president! Wishful thinking I suppose, but I'm. Dying to know what happened to them all after the Bartlet administration.

You don't remember the flash forward scene?

Edit: Rumours that hit the internet yesterday of a reboot seem to be false

Jawgap

syklops wrote: »

The biggest obstacle for the writers was the passing of John Spencer. He had some of his best episodes in season 7 which means he went out on a high note at least.

I think when Sorkin left they found it difficult to do serious stories in an 'entertaining' way, which is why there is a certain 'heaviness' about late season 4, season 5 and season 6 episodes.

I want to be careful in case anyone reading this hasn't got to the end, but with Bartlett finishing out his second term and being replaced there was probably a good opportunity to do a refresh......

.......if only they'd hung for one more season

Epic John Spencer scene - when Josh mis-reads his body language and goes to give him a hug!!

Also the 'bickering' between him and Sheen was well pitched.

SarahBM

Why did Rob Lowe leave again?

syklops

SarahBM wrote: »

Why did Rob Lowe leave again?

When he was recruited for TWW, he was put under the impression that he would be the central charachter. When it became apparent he wouldn't be, he left.

Who knew actors were petty?

SarahBM

syklops wrote: »

When he was recruited for TWW, he was put under the impression that he would be the central charachter. When it became apparent he wouldn't be, he left.

Who knew actors were petty?

SAM FOR PRESIDENT!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

The Black Oil

SarahBM wrote: »

Why did Rob Lowe leave again?

Far as I recall, in hearing him explaining it, he sensed a changed in the show and that was a bit of a way out for him.

The Empire guide's worth a read.

http://www.empireonline.com/westwing/part1.asp

SarahBM

Zoe is graduating, Andy is having the babies, Hoynes is gone, and Danny has got the Shariff story.
Best season finale ever