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Horses......... lots of lays

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    your heading the right way once again, I wish I could meet you just to exchange reasons but more important ways.

    keep er lit.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FIngers crossed I can keep progressing. With the lays I just try and find yokes that have it to do off their current mark going off past performances. In handicaps a few are generally on the up or at least at a mark they previously ran well off. The focus on the place market is purely as there is less fat in it compared to industry prices, the win market is ideal for backing though.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    7.10 W'ton Spanish Plume 4 €7.00 layed tbp

    Laying a big priced top weight to be placed :eek:
    In fairness it fits in with my modus of selection and the place price isn't too bad in comparison to the win price.

    Spanish Plume tackles this 9 1/2f 0 to 75 HC off 74, just did enough to win a 10f 0 to 75 off 70 at Chester, two runs since haven't been great. Has run twice over CD in maidens, never getting involved, ran well on 3rd start which was on turf, reasonable to think the AW may not be this ones thing, W'ton anyway :)


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    7.40 W'ton Conry 3.3 €9.00 layed tbp
    Tackles this 0 to 75 off 70, won a CD 0 to 70 off 69 last November, hasn't progressed from then.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    8.10 W'ton Chookie Royale 2.24 €17.00 layed tbp

    Seemed to be happy enough on soft turf lately, AW may or may not suit, at the price I'm happy to go with not :)


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    9.10 W'ton Lightning Spirit 2.52 €14.00 layed tbp

    Woeful race, this one looks very dis proportionally priced relative to ability, never placed in 7 starts, didn't seem to relish the AW at Lingfield either.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RoverJames wrote: »
    7.10 W'ton Spanish Plume 4 €7.00 layed tbp..........
    3rd at 10/1
    RoverJames wrote: »
    7.40 W'ton Conry 3.3 €9.00 layed tbp
    Tackles this 0 to 75 off 70, won a CD 0 to 70 off 69 last November, hasn't progressed from then.

    10th at 7/1
    RoverJames wrote: »
    8.10 W'ton Chookie Royale 2.24 €17.00 layed tbp

    .......
    Won
    RoverJames wrote: »
    9.10 W'ton Lightning Spirit 2.52 €14.00 layed tbp

    ....

    NP, 5th or 6th I think, I'll update later.

    5th at 9/2 fav, should have held off a few mins with the lay, ah well.

    -€20.21 today


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    3.45 Doncaster Seal Rock 3.2 €10.00 layed tbp

    Grand 2nd off 93 lto at Goodwood in a 0 to 95, this is harder though and off the same mark I don't see him getting involved in this.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    4.40 Newbury Doricemay 2.89 €11.00 layed tbp
    Not great in past runs over this trip, admittedly in better races but has been beaten home by mediocre yokes, very hard to fancy this one.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    5.05 Fakenham Reelwill 1.56 €35.00 layed tbp

    Goes well fresh and this is the seasonal debut, however when not in form is woeful and despite a CD win off a similar mark this time last year I think the place odds don't represent value considering how woeful this one can be.


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    7.20 W'ton Elrasheed 2.5 €14.00 layed tbp

    AW debut for this 3yo, trip in within range though in fairness to it.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    7.50 W'ton My St Clair 2.88 €11 layed tbp
    HCer has been lenient, not surprising, dunno if this trip suits, dunno how W'ton's surface will go down either.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    9.00 Dundalk
    Buccaneer Bob €20.00 layed tbp, at SP, market not settled yet I reckon
    Had a spin here over 7f, wasn't great, HCers efforts seemed to have anchored this one lto, mark unchanged. Not one to be on I think.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    8.50 W'ton Valley Tiger 3.2 €10.00 layed tbp
    Tight 0 to 55 HC, this one didn't impress lto, fingers crossed for more of the same.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RoverJames wrote: »
    3.45 Doncaster Seal Rock 3.2 €10.00 layed tbp.............

    RoverJames wrote: »
    4.40 Newbury Doricemay 2.89 €11.00 layed tbp.............
    7th at 7/1
    RoverJames wrote: »
    5.05 Fakenham Reelwill 1.56 €35.00 layed tbp.............
    Bastad of a yoke was beaten over 10l but stayed on for 3rd by a head at 5/2 :mad:
    RoverJames wrote: »
    7.20 W'ton Elrasheed 2.5 €14.00 layed tbp

    .............
    8th at 4/1
    RoverJames wrote: »
    7.50 W'ton My St Clair 2.88 €11 layed tbp...........
    12th at 6/1
    RoverJames wrote: »
    9.00 Dundalk
    Buccaneer Bob €20.00 layed tbp, at SP, .............
    Unplaced at 12/1
    Buccaneer Bob 4.22 6.20 Lay ...........
    Lay subtotal: 6.20
    Market subtotal: 6.20
    Commission @ 4.84%: 0.30
    Net Market Total: 5.90
    RoverJames wrote: »
    8.50 W'ton Valley Tiger 3.2 €10.00 layed tbp..............
    Won at 13/2.


    +€8.04 today


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    2.25 Aintree Jubail 2.78 €12 layed tbp
    Don't think good to soft is ideal, not in great form either, don't think we'll see the best of this one here.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    5.15 Aintree Hector's Choice Hectors Choice 2.56 €0.75 & 2.68 €11.00 layed tbp
    I'll update with the financial side of things in a while. Pulled up when last seen, fairly unexposed as a HC chaser but I think this is too classy for this one, has gone well fresh in the past but I don't see a proven jumping track record to inspire confidence here, hard to verbalise really but there you go.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    5.25 Chepstow Baroque Star 3.03 €9.00 layed tbp
    Looks to have work cut out in this 0 to 95 off 69, recent form is woeful, admittedly anything (as with any race but more so in these races I reckon) can happen in a conditional jockeys race but it's very hard to see this one featuring, I reckon the place price will be bigger at the off too so happy to lay at what's available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    gl with your picks today


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gl with your picks today

    Many thanks :)

    5.00 Stratford Bull Market 2.24 €16.00 layed tbp
    Unless I'm a nutter this one needs to lose another good lash of weight to feature in HC hurdles, either that or it needs to be entered in 0 to 80s.


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    2.50 Stratford Chain Of Command €20.00 SP lay
    Doesn't seem to enjoy this sphere, market is infuriatingly unsettled for an hour before place time, I'm hoping for close to 3.0 ish, 3.3 at the mo to lay but I'm feeling stubborn.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Many thanks :)

    5.00 Stratford Bull Market 2.24 €16.00 layed tbp
    Unless I'm a nutter this one needs to lose another good lash of weight to feature in HC hurdles, either that or it needs to be entered in 0 to 80s.

    should have gone SP on this one, some gamble on it, still don't fancy it :pac:


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    7.20 W'ton Potentiale 1.88 €23.00 layed tbp
    Weights and ratings considered this one has it to do to finish in the top 3, they should be in the following order....

    Scamperdale, African cheetah and Ahlawy me thinks :D


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ^^^ dirty rat of a thing stayed on for third after looking absolutely no chanced before turning for home :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    7.50 W'ton Kalendar Girl 2.68 €13.00 layed to be placed
    Untried over the trip, didn't finish 10f on turf with aplomb so it may well be a stretch, that aside the place price is decently short for a 10.5 yoke on the win market.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    8.50 W'ton Half A Billion 1.68 €31

    Hasn't ran to the odds on last few runs, AW debut, not a juicy place price.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    8.50 W'ton Bahamian Lad 2.4 €15.00 layed tbp

    HC mark easing, 64 in this 0 to 75, has it to do, 3rd 2 runs back was a surprise.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ..... 4 in a row placed :eek:
    (not good btw)


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    9.20 W'ton Blown It 3.5 €8.00 layed tbp

    One of the few in this race that the HCer reckons is due some respite, AW form is quite poor too.


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    -€111.26 today, can't be arsed going through the result tbh. All but 3 of the 10 were placed. 'tis surprising that 3 weren't placed actually :pac:


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