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welger 220 pickup

  • 20-06-2011 3:12pm
    #1
    vanderbadger
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    folks anyway know how to stop your pickup reel slipping if thats the right term , I notice with my baler if the reel meets any resistance like a tuft of uncut grass or rakes the ground it starts slipping making that grr grr grr noise till you lift it, ive been told there is a little device at one side of the reel that need to be adjusted but cant seem to find any info on it on the web, I suppose i should just take off the side covers and see but said i would ask first


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  • #2
    jeff greene
    Closed Accounts Posts: 733 ✭✭✭jeff greene


    Take off the cover on the pickup on the left side I think, tighten the chain, but have you it too low? Those Welger tines won't last long at that.


  • #3
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    jeff greene wrote: »
    Take off the cover on the pickup on the left side I think, tighten the chain, but have you it too low? Those Welger tines won't last long at that.

    no deffo not too low, but literally if it meets anything its slipping


  • #4
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    jeff greene wrote: »
    Take off the cover on the pickup on the left side I think, tighten the chain, but have you it too low? Those Welger tines won't last long at that.

    do you mean left side from standing behind baler?


  • #5
    jeff greene
    Closed Accounts Posts: 733 ✭✭✭jeff greene


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    do you mean left side from standing behind baler?

    Yeah I think so, that chain fell off on me one day when I hit a bad bump:mad: easy fix tho.


  • #6
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    jeff greene wrote: »
    Yeah I think so, that chain fell off on me one day when I hit a bad bump:mad: easy fix tho.

    must open it up and see although the way it was described to me was that there was a little unit bolted on there that needed to be taken off for adjustment??
    yours a 220 as well?


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  • #7
    jeff greene
    Closed Accounts Posts: 733 ✭✭✭jeff greene


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    must open it up and see although the way it was described to me was that there was a little unit bolted on there that needed to be taken off for adjustment??
    yours a 220 as well?

    Yeah a 220 profi, as I say, that chain fell off one day and put it again. Maybe there's more to it:confused:


  • #8
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    jeff greene wrote: »
    Yeah a 220 profi, as I say, that chain fell off one day and put it again. Maybe there's more to it:confused:

    jeff dont suppose you remember how the chain was lying? take a look at this pic, looks at the white plastic thing in the middle, looks to me like the chain should be underneath it as opposed to the way it is, i checked the other side and the chain is underneath the plastic.


  • #9
    Swinefluproof
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Swinefluproof


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    jeff dont suppose you remember how the chain was lying? take a look at this pic, looks at the white plastic thing in the middle, looks to me like the chain should be underneath it as opposed to the way it is, i checked the other side and the chain is underneath the plastic.

    That white nylon piece in the photograph is the chain tensioner and should be below the chain as it is. If the opposite side isn't then that may be the reason the pickup reel is slipping. Switch it around on the opposite side and re-tension the chain. A bit of advice though is to drop the pickup to the down position when tensioning as the chain can snap if tensioned when up.

    If that doesn't work then maybe there is a slip clutch on one of the sprockets, don't see one in the picture but haven't used a Welger in years and was only a 200 then. I'm sure they're pretty similar though. Is there a shear bolt on your pickup or is that too old school for a 220???


  • #10
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    Swinefluproof wrote: »
    That white nylon piece in the photograph is the chain tensioner and should be below the chain as it is. If the opposite side isn't then that may be the reason the pickup reel is slipping. Switch it around on the opposite side and re-tension the chain. A bit of advice though is to drop the pickup to the down position when tensioning as the chain can snap if tensioned when up.

    If that doesn't work then maybe there is a slip clutch on one of the sprockets, don't see one in the picture but haven't used a Welger in years and was only a 200 then. I'm sure they're pretty similar though. Is there a shear bolt on your pickup or is that too old school for a 220???

    ya the other side is different but the other side is tensioned where as the side in the pictures the chain seems loose, not sure to be honest if its a shear bolt or not, havent broke it yet anyway if its a shear bolt ;)


  • #11
    Swinefluproof
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Swinefluproof


    Just loosen off the tensioner so and shove it up a bit to tension up the chain, just make sure to leave some slack or you'll wear the chain off it. Can be a bit awkward to hold the head of the bolt on the inside as far as I can remember so I used to take out the bolt and weld about 3 inches of haybob tooth to the head of it to stop it turning in the bracket. Very handy if caught in the field with a badly filled toolbox.
    Was asking if had a shear bolt because if do then that rules out a slip clutch slipping.
    You got the 220 long?


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  • #12
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    Swinefluproof wrote: »
    Just loosen off the tensioner so and shove it up a bit to tension up the chain, just make sure to leave some slack or you'll wear the chain off it. Can be a bit awkward to hold the head of the bolt on the inside as far as I can remember so I used to take out the bolt and weld about 3 inches of haybob tooth to the head of it to stop it turning in the bracket. Very handy if caught in the field with a badly filled toolbox.
    Was asking if had a shear bolt because if do then that rules out a slip clutch slipping.
    You got the 220 long?

    3rd season now, took a chance and bought in UK, if i had my time back again i might do it differently :rolleyes:


  • #13
    Swinefluproof
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Swinefluproof


    Well if haven't done for a shear bolt in that time then you probably don't have one. Why differently? You think it not worth it?


  • #14
    maidhc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭maidhc


    The RP12s has a slip clutch just behind the sproket on the pickup.

    Take off the chain first and see if the reel spins reasonably freely. If it does, then pull off the slip clutch and get it looked at.

    I am basing this on my old RP12s balers and 15 years of experience in using and rebuilding them, but I suspect the RP220 is similar, although it sounds like it might have drive from two sides, so makre sure that there is actually drive on both sides.

    PS: The chain should be above the plastic tensioner.


  • #15
    sh1tstirrer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    maidhc wrote: »
    The RP12s has a slip clutch just behind the sproket on the pickup.

    Take off the chain first and see if the reel spins reasonably freely. If it does, then pull off the slip clutch and get it looked at.

    I am basing this on my old RP12s balers and 15 years of experience in using and rebuilding them, but I suspect the RP220 is similar, although it sounds like it might have drive from two sides, so makre sure that there is actually drive on both sides.

    PS: The chain should be above the plastic tensioner.
    I checked out the slip clutch on my RP12 a few years ago. I took it apart to see if it was ok the springs and cams went flying every direction :eek: It took me the best part of a day to round them up again. If anyone here is taking the slip clutch apart put a plastic bag over it and it will prevent the problem.


  • #16
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    3rd season now, took a chance and bought in UK, if i had my time back again i might do it differently :rolleyes:
    ah just took a chance and bought in Uk without knowing anything about it trying to save a few quid..i didnt work out that way of course :rolleyes:
    I should have just bought one form a dealer here that was right to begin with. that said she is going away now and makes a decent bale if you have a good swarth, i notice a slight jiggle on one of the rollers at one side when you use a pry bar so maybe have a bearing going there


  • #17
    jeff greene
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    I hope you can see these, ze manual:cool:

    Why are you sorry for buying it, we're delighted with ours, better bale than the Fusion, fact:pac:
    Image0357.jpg
    Image0359.jpg


  • #18
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    jeff greene wrote: »
    I hope you can see these, ze manual:cool:

    Why are you sorry for buying it, we're delighted with ours, better bale than the Fusion, fact:pac:
    Image0357.jpg
    Image0359.jpg

    thanks
    no not sorry i bought it as such but sorry i bought one that needed a share of work done before it was right, it makes much better bales than contractor used to make for me anyhow, i got big wheels for it and they made a big difference i found, there is some serious weight in them, towed behind jeep once..scary enough trip


  • #19
    jeff greene
    Closed Accounts Posts: 733 ✭✭✭jeff greene


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    thanks
    no not sorry i bought it as such but sorry i bought one that needed a share of work done before it was right, it makes much better bales than contractor used to make for me anyhow, i got big wheels for it and they made a big difference i found, there is some serious weight in them, towed behind jeep once..scary enough trip

    We bought ours off the local dealer, made 200 odd bales and a bearing went and the chain moved and cut the ram for opening the door, we took it over and he striped it out, changed rollers, new bearings, chains for no charge. Been great since, the odd bearing but we're getting fast at changing them:cool:

    We have the big wheels too, put more knives in last year too, all 23 in now, tractor knows it!


  • #20
    vanderbadger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    jeff greene wrote: »
    We bought ours off the local dealer, made 200 odd bales and a bearing went and the chain moved and cut the ram for opening the door, we took it over and he striped it out, changed rollers, new bearings, chains for no charge. Been great since, the odd bearing but we're getting fast at changing them:cool:

    We have the big wheels too, put more knives in last year too, all 23 in now, tractor knows it!

    only have a few knives in mine, dont bother much with chopping, i feed them thru a taarup chopper anyway, you are probably getting a good bit more into your bale though by chopping I guess


  • #21
    vincenzolorenzo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    Haven't worked one of those balers before but it sound like its a slip cllutch problem rather than chain tension. You can get the slip clutch tightened up and it'll be less prone to slip but you want to be careful that you don't over-torque it or it mightn't protect the baler/tractor like it should


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  • #22
    beretta686s
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭beretta686s


    vanderbadger wrote: »
    folks anyway know how to stop your pickup reel slipping if thats the right term , I notice with my baler if the reel meets any resistance like a tuft of uncut grass or rakes the ground it starts slipping making that grr grr grr noise till you lift it, ive been told there is a little device at one side of the reel that need to be adjusted but cant seem to find any info on it on the web, I suppose i should just take off the side covers and see but said i would ask first

    turf get out of the bog then:D


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