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  • 20-06-2011 10:36pm
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    gabdoc
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    Hi I have a h.k.c 812 secure watch alarm panel in the house. I have run one 6 core cable from house to the garage. Would like to install one p.i.r. and one keypad if possible. Can this be done? if so how do i go about it.


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    altor
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    Very easy to do if you have the engineer code. All you need is to wire the keypad plus a 4 zone expander into the keypad bus on the alarm system on 4 cores. The PIR can be wired into the expander plus the power can be brought to the PIR on the other 2 cores.

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    fred funk }{
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    To save you money. Wire the PIR power into the power from the keypad and use the other pair for the zone.


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    KoolKid
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    I agree with Fred. Its a waste of money spending all that on an expander for one zone.For a little less you would have a panel and keypad.


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    altor
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    fred funk }{ wrote: »
    To save you money. Wire the PIR power into the power from the keypad and use the other pair for the zone.

    I agree Fred that is a cheaper solution providing the op has a free zone in his panel.

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    altor
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    KoolKid wrote: »
    For a little less you would have a panel and keypad.

    I would disagree as the op needs a second keypad.

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    KoolKid
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    Exactly my point. A new panel with keypad would be cheaper than a keypad and expander.


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    altor
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    KoolKid wrote: »
    Exactly my point. A new panel with keypad would be cheaper than a keypad and expander.

    So why suggest something dearer ?

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    KoolKid
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    ?????
    Keypad €60-€70 expander €50-€60
    Panel and keypad €110.
    Panel and keypad is always better value. On any system I will never buy a keypad on its own. For the OP the cheapest option is Fred's suggestion and forget the keypad. After that
    If a keypad is required then a seperate panel is cheaper and more flexable solution in my opinion.


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    paddy147
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    gabdoc wrote: »
    Hi I have a h.k.c 812 secure watch alarm panel in the house. I have run one 6 core cable from house to the garage. Would like to install one p.i.r. and one keypad if possible. Can this be done? if so how do i go about it.


    Run 2 more down to the garage as spares,if you can.Leave them long enough to go anywhere inside or outside the garage too.

    Thats what I did ( I ran 5 x 6 core alarm cables to garage).

    The alarm installer fitted an external bell box,keypad,pir.:)


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    altor
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    KoolKid wrote: »
    ?????
    Keypad €60-€70 expander €50-€60
    Panel and keypad €110.
    Panel and keypad is always better value. On any system I will never buy a keypad on its own. For the OP the cheapest option is Fred's suggestion and forget the keypad. After that
    If a keypad is required then a seperate panel is cheaper and more flexable solution in my opinion.

    More like €40 for the expander. What panel and keypad can you get for €110 :confused:

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    MCnoFlow
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    paddy147 wrote: »
    Run 2 more down to the garage as spares,if you can.Leave them long enough to go anywhere inside or outside the garage too.

    Thats what I did ( I ran 5 x 6 core alarm cables to garage).

    The alarm installer fitted an external bell box,keypad,pir.:)

    Your bellbox is crooked.


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    MCnoFlow
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    altor wrote: »
    More like €40 for the expander. What panel and keypad can you get for €110 :confused:

    8/12 is 110 plus vat.


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    KoolKid
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    I am pricing ex VAT.
    Any standard Panel/Keypad I buy would be €110


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    paddy147
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    MCnoFlow wrote: »
    Your bellbox is crooked.


    Its the angle of the pic,the leccy roller shutter door even looks a bit off,its not crooked at all.


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    fred funk }{
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    paddy147 wrote: »
    Its the angle of the pic,the leccy roller shutter door even looks a bit off,its not crooked at all.

    It is crooked. I would get your alarm company back to fix that, in fact, get another company out as any company that leaves a bell box like that shouldn't be let near an alarm system. Disgraceful carry on.















    Only joking Altor.


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    Jnealon
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    Running the keypad and pir off the one cable would be the easiest solution.

    Paddy you should have put that box in a cage as it's very low


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    paddy147
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    Jnealon wrote: »
    Running the keypad and pir off the one cable would be the easiest solution.

    Paddy you should have put that box in a cage as it's very low


    10.5 feet from ground to bell box.

    It is in a cage now.A HKC cage to be precise and fitted with anti theft stainless steel security screws..

    The alarm installer actually recommended that he install a cage,but I decided against it,at the time.

    A few days later,I got the cage fitted,as I realized that the alarm installer was right all along, and I was wrong.

    Thanks for your concern.


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    KoolKid
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    OK this is going nowhere.
    Mutual Appreciation Society Thread closed!


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