Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Horse84

Ballyporeen is south tipp on the border with cork only over the road from Mitchelstown. Most of those lads would go to secondary school in cbs in Mitchelstown and know each other well so it's good to have 2 county champions close to each other.
Ballyporeen have been coming strong last few years and finally made the breakthrough to senior. Have benefited from the excellent work done underage in tipp football. They have one if not 2 of the team that won a minor all Ireland the other year and Conor Sweeney, excellent footballer and tipp senior.
Bally drew with dls last week I think not sure if that replay has been played?

I'd be very surprised if grenagh beat ballysaggart to be honest. Don't see them holding the likes of Waterford minor Stephen bennett. His 2 brothers also start, Kieran and Shane.

Sorry just to add Bally won very well against dls today. 3-08 to 1-03. Just off the phone to one of the lads who plays with em. They're a good very young side and will give clyda a right good rattle

thinkstoomuch1

Horse84 wrote: »

Ballyporeen is south tipp on the border with cork only over the road from Mitchelstown. Most of those lads would go to secondary school in cbs in Mitchelstown and know each other well so it's good to have 2 county champions close to each other.
Ballyporeen have been coming strong last few years and finally made the breakthrough to senior. Have benefited from the excellent work done underage in tipp football. They have one if not 2 of the team that won a minor all Ireland the other year and Conor Sweeney, excellent footballer and tipp senior.
Bally drew with dls last week I think not sure if that replay has been played?

I'd be very surprised if grenagh beat ballysaggart to be honest. Don't see them holding the likes of Waterford minor Stephen bennett. His 2 brothers also start, Kieran and Shane.

Sorry just to add Bally won very well against dls today. 3-08 to 1-03. Just off the phone to one of the lads who plays with em. They're a good very young side and will give clyda a right good rattle

Thanks a million.Just head out the motor way and turn of so.I might go this instead of the hurling,as it sounds a tough game by what you said.

Only less than a hour drive for clyda so.They sound a tough team,with a few standout players.

Not a foregone conclussion so,sounds like a tough match so next week ,very tough.

Ah thats grenagh beaten so away from home.They will put up a good show do.

Thats why i hoped castlematyr or newtown had won it as they had firepower you need in Munster.


Youghal and midelton have a good chance with home advantage in next weekend games.

Na piarsaigh dont sound unbeatable ,but their grinding out results at the same time ,so their resilant and expierenced and saw Downes point on the news,some player.A fantastic point.

If mideiton get to the final,lehane is the main man for them ,but dowling and downes can be just as dangerous for them.
Gilligan and downes if they get that far will be a good test for Midelton at full back.
How they cope their is key to them.

The sarsfield courcey game leauge semifinal postponed today.

Horse84

Yea go into Mtown and turn right at the main set of traffic lights heading out the clonmel road past Dairygold cheese plant. About a 10 to 15 min drive from there. Bally's pitch is very good, very few pitches have floodlights in south tipp supposedly, a good few teams train there.
I'd know more about Bally than clyda. Bally tend to start very slow in games but finish extremely strong. Dara Lyons is still playing with em he was or is with cork con rugby

thinkstoomuch1

Horse84 wrote: »

Yea go into Mtown and turn right at the main set of traffic lights heading out the clonmel road past Dairygold cheese plant. About a 10 to 15 min drive from there. Bally's pitch is very good, very few pitches have floodlights in south tipp supposedly, a good few teams train there.
I'd know more about Bally than clyda. Bally tend to start very slow in games but finish extremely strong. Dara Lyons is still playing with em he was or is with cork con rugby

Sound for that.
I did not know he played gaelic.
He plays with cork con, a fine full back but can play outhalf.He has the skillset to be a fine footballer.


Clyda start slow at times but started well against macroom.

Ned english is with clyda,ray carey and kissane with conor crowley played with corks teams and seamus ronayne development cork hurler.

thinkstoomuch1

Ballina are going to be a serious test for youghal,they have pat cosgrave,at full back,thomas collins centre back and Michel breen their ace forward and have james logue also.


Michael breen along with James Logue and Steven O Brien have made the 45 man Tippeary panel .They must be very good club hurlers.
Leigh desmond got man of the match yesterday,finally hitting the heights he is capable of.

Grace is a fine solid club full back for Youghal and has been around a while but faces a completely different test Sunday.
Speaking of Tipperary ,they have recruited Kieran macgeeney in a mental preparation role.He is to work with Armagh still.
I had expected Tipp under O shea to make a serious push next year but with that appointnent id wonder.Macgeeney is way over hyped and surely he wont come cheap even in a mental coaching role.
It looks like Tipp are going down clare and corks route ,in terms of focussing on speed.Gary ryan ex olympic sprinter has joined them as fitness trainer.


An interesting shift away from physicality the way the game is evolving.

Eddie enright i thought was joining them.It seems not hopefully he stays with ucc.

premierstone

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Ballina are going to be a serious test for youghal,they have pat cosgrave,at full back,thomas collins centre back and Michel breen their ace forward and have james logue also.


Michael breen along with James Logue and Steven O Brien have made the 45 man Tippeary panel .They must be very good club hurlers.
Leigh desmond got man of the match yesterday,finally hitting the heights he is capable of.

James Logue is not from Ballina, Ballingarry in South Tipp is he's club. Breen and O'Brien are the two key men for them as you have highlighted, Breen particularly is expected to make an impression with Tipp seniors this year.

thinkstoomuch1

http://t.co/azXqikHR5u

In relation to yesterdays St Colum Mtichelstown game.
It was a joke.How in the name jesus they didnt know this was going to happen.

The_Kew_Tour

Beyond stupid.

thinkstoomuch1

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Beyond stupid.

At ground level you could pick them out,just slightly looking across the ptich.The problem for a player,on the ptich was way worse a corner back trying to pick out a half forward,had no chance.

And add in the driving rain in second half darkened the orange colour.

As you said beyond stupid ,the socks couldnt even be separated.

slingerz

it was raised with both clubs well in advance of the final and both believed that there wouldnt be a problem with the jerseys.

should have been a switch to divisional colours for sure

zetecescort

Midleton game fixed for Pairc Ui Chaoimh

Clyda Rovers travelling to Clonmel

thinkstoomuch1

Just at one of the best football games in a while i have been at ,in Ul,they beat Sligo some scoring 5-20 ul to 3-8 for sligo.

A great game in heavy conditions(ptich was super).It was semi final of the league,they play dublin or queens next.

The only negative,no match programme.

Cork had Lisa crowley in goals.Made two great saves.Galway u21 Roisin leonard,and Aine Tigh of leitrim and i think Niamh of O 'Keoffe of Clare were very good for ul.

I don't who the no 11 was for Sligo but if she aint intercounty she aint far of it,superb ,practially involved in most of sligo scores.

I don't get a chance to go many ladies games,but glad i was at this as it was a great game of football,very open and attacking,some great scores.

I think their may of been two more cork players,i am not sure though.

thinkstoomuch1

Dean ryan cup final 1.30 Cashel Saturday
Midelton v Ard scoil ris


Should be a cracker

Cashel seems to be a strange choice.Fermoy or mallow i thought.

Rg15 you were spot on with the date.

thinkstoomuch1

zetecescort wrote: »

Midleton game fixed for Pairc Ui Chaoimh

Clyda Rovers travelling to Clonmel

Midleton game tg4 showing defferred coverage.

The_Kew_Tour

Donal Og on twitter with picture of his runner up AI medal and Munster Medal from 2006.

he only received them today:mad:

7 years he had to wait to get them!!!

What a disgrace!!!!

rebel girl 15

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Dean ryan cup final 1.30 Cashel Saturday
Midelton v Ard scoil ris


Should be a cracker

Cashel seems to be a strange choice.Fermoy or mallow i thought.

Rg15 you were spot on with the date.

I'm well connected!!!! :P

thinkstoomuch1

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

I'm well connected!!!! :P

Jesus your doing well RG- up after 12 ,by your post earlier on sat night on the awards night.


What was it like as was their a good banquet compared to the shamble of the mens with chips and burgers.?

At ul today they were delightd o flynn won the pofy,one of their own.

thinkstoomuch1

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Donal Og on twitter with picture of his runner up AI medal and Munster Medal from 2006.

he only received them today:mad:

7 years he had to wait to get them!!!

What a disgrace!!!!

Twas a disgrace,they wouldnt even hold an awards dinner for them.

Crazy.

Sure they havent once mentioned halpins book,and when teddy mac had hes they were always on bout it,few county board men promoting it a function.And rightly so.

But sean og deserves the same.

On another note ,at the match yesterday ,all talk was sheehan going.And a lad pointed out a good point to me.We have been unlucky with sheehan and a few going proffessional and more must be done to retain them but we have been lucky to keep shields and tom kenny.

He played soccer with leeds in cork and glasgow celtic were interested in him as a teenager but Gaa was he's first love,he grew up in the company of Brian cocorcan.GAA was always he's game.

A fine soccer midfieder a grenagh lad told me he was.

thinkstoomuch1

Cork hurling team have a fundraising raising night in the dog track in decemeber.
The After all ireland dinner was a fundraiser too.
I thought these days were long gone.County board is surely in a posistion to look after them.

zetecescort

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Cork hurling team have a fundraising raising night in the dog track in decemeber.
The After all ireland dinner was a fundraiser too.
I thought these days were long gone.County board is surely in a posistion to look after them.

maybe they are, willing to do it is another matter unfortunatly. saving for the white elephant.

thinkstoomuch1

Of all the four Cork teams in Munster competition the weekend,outside of Midelton and the Bridge ,the Dean ryan cup game,is one i cant wait to see in Cashel,as with two very good teams,it could be a great game.Forecast is good,dry weather.


Ard scoil are as a school team the nearest you will get to an intercounty team,in terms of preparation and the pick they have from limerick and clare.
I have seen their training ist hand under Niail Moran and they look a well drilied team.


Mideiton CBS will probably line out as:
E .Moloney (Mideleton),C Hegarty,S.O Connor,M Millerick(all Fr.O Neills)
E Leahy,S Smith(Midelton)D Harrington (Fr O Neills)J Looney (Aghada),B Macarthy(Carrigtwohill)J Mcdonnell(Aghada)K Moynihan(Russell Rovers)C Parker(Fr .O Neills),K Tracey(Killeagh),G Manley (Mideleton),J Beausang (Russell Rovers)


Charlie Terry or Padraigh O Brien could well start

With Eoin Moloney in goal ,Sean O Connor at full back (done a good job on rockies ace proflic and potential cork forward Michael o Halloran in the drawn u16 County final better than anyone else has managed to do against him the last month)Seanda Smith a centre back that can influence a game and along with Mike Millerick, and Daniel Harrington they have a good defence at the back.


Midfield,john looney ( cork minor panel)and brendan maccarthy are good hurlers and if they break even as in the forwards any of Killan Tracey,Kevin Moyinhan,Josh Beausang,Jack mcdonnell can all do a job if they get good ball.

The key man is Garan Manley,a real talent (cork development squad player)is lethal from placed balls and play.Son of Ger (great goal cork 92 all ireland senior final against kk as a sub)he is a very good player,and very fast and strong for hes age.

Against Thurles got nearly half hes team totals with 1-11.
In the quater and semifinal he has totalled 1-16.Some scoring.
A very good hurler.
Ronan Dwanye ,Sean Hurley ,Seamus Murphy have done a good job coaching them.

They won the quater final easily,but it was good that they were able to grind out a one point win against a much rated blackwater (denis ring,pa cronin) in the semifinal which will surely stand to them entering the final.


All they can do is their best and the result will take care of itself .They are a credit for getting to the final,and im sure they will give it their all Saturday.

thinkstoomuch1

As if it was a suprise but Aidan Walsh confirmed he is playing Hurling and football for Cork next year.
Great for the hurlers.

zetecescort

Not sure it's so good, think he will fall between two stools. His form the since 2010 not exactly brilliant and now he wants to play hurling aswell.

Don't get me wrong, I want it to work but can't see it happening.

lukin

zetecescort wrote: »

Not sure it's so good, think he will fall between two stools. His form the since 2010 not exactly brilliant and now he wants to play hurling aswell.

Don't get me wrong, I want it to work but can't see it happening.

I know but he has taken a year out from college so that will help. He will be at home in Kanturk for the year.

Horse84

I think it's great to have him. His hurling will not be up there with others like lehane and them but coaching will bring him on a ways and you're right having him at home in kanturk will help things as well.
If nothing else he'll be a serious physical presence in that forward line and if started on the bench can change things up when introduced.

Kieron Kingston is taking over as coach and he's said that we won't be fielding a team in the Waterford crystal cup at all this year. When asked about possible retirements, he's said he hasn't heard about any.
http://www.eveningecho.ie/2013/11/13/kingston-takes-coaching-role-rebels/

thinkstoomuch1

Horse84 wrote: »

I think it's great to have him. His hurling will not be up there with others like lehane and them but coaching will bring him on a ways and you're right having him at home in kanturk will help things as well.
If nothing else he'll be a serious physical presence in that forward line and if started on the bench can change things up when introduced.

Kieron Kingston is taking over as coach and he's said that we won't be fielding a team in the Waterford crystal cup at all this year. When asked about possible retirements, he's said he hasn't heard about any.
http://www.eveningecho.ie/2013/11/13/kingston-takes-coaching-role-rebels/

Id agree totally,a massive move and the right call,walsh was a hurling man first and foremost,hes days at work are surrounded by hurleys,and hes meeting hurling men throughout the day.Like the true love of a woman in a mans life,those fires of passion for hurling are always burning inside and just a matter of time when their sparked off again.

Jbm was that spark.He knew from nash and lorchan the set up was good.A year at home,hes own working hours,and its physical work but not too demanding means he can recover close to a proffessional athlete.

Already fit and strong,and not injury prone he was always cork best option of being a success as a dual player.
Nash and lorchan will do unseen work in the ball alley with him.Unlike sheehan ,walsh had it,super one-5 against tipp,a great goal similar to intermdiedate goal two weeks ago against Eire Og,got a high ball and ran at the defence and buried it.

The majestic 8 point display against limerick was like lehane 2 weeks ago,if you want to make it for cork you must standout in these games.

Harnedy got around 2-3 against imokilly two weeks before clare in june,unlike others he won a rake of ball also.He stoodout.

When joe deane was u21 he got 3-12 against castelyons out of their 4-14 in 98,in a final.He done more than was expected,for a top u21 star of cork.
I don't expect everyone to score that,few are like Deano,but at the same time they must standout in club games as cork intercounty hurlers.

Thats what a few of corks panel of last year have failed to do in games they should be dominating at club level even.I would hope their is a lot of changes in it next feburary.

Naughton,corry,cussen,white,all need to be thanked for their efforts but told not what we are looking for.
Mark ellis i have said i dont think is full back materail.More suited to the game ten years.I met a lad ,whos been involved in club hurling all hes life,and son was a great player for cork.The same fella knows hurling inside out.He remains convinced Ellis has the makings of a full back.
With not many options out their,give him a chance in the league with spillane.


Of all our county winning teams at club,midelton or youghal ,have not gave us the answer at 3.
John grace is a good solid club player,around for ages has no speed of hurling or legs for intercounty.Sunday ,if Michael breen gets ball,could be a rude awakening for him and a long day.

Killan o connor Mallow is one maybee for the future with Eddie Gunning.
No good now,Cork need one now.


Tom kenny great servant should go.Jbm like cusack,gardiner must make the tough call.

Brian murphy will go id say,but if they allow him the winter of ,and join late,even miss part of the league like last year ,he may stay.Still has a lot to offer.A Great sub he could be.
Bud ,what i saw even sat night in the u21 game, he was doing nothing to standout from the ground.Cadogan miles ahead of him,and meant to been very good against rockies sunday.Hartnett doesnt have cadogans bite or steel.

Michael o sullivan who i rate never got any chance last year.If they wont give him games,they shouldnt waste hes time.They should give him 3 full games.He with cormac walsh worth a look.

Leigh desmond has the hurling and aggression,question is does he want to play or have commitment senior panel.If so much better than white,and can hurl in midfield or half back.

Jamie nagle must be recalled.
Bill cooper should be watched sunday but walsh has made it very hard for him now.
Padraig gould,if recovers from injury must be looked at.


Waterford have called up a few minors to their senior panel.Like clare ,going with youth.
I don't mean the team,but for the panel Pa callaghan ballyea must be ,as the u21 set up,like the minor has slowed hes development,as unlike lehane who plays with midelton,at club,at senior avondu wont give him an extended run of games in the cork county,as they wont get that far,o callaghan has been starved of big games and could be a real talent lost to cork.

Jbm can save him.Get the lad ,like cadogan training with the seniors,and for the firs time at intercounty level he will be coached by a top class set up.

With lehane rise to fame,walsh,harnedy,cronin,paudie,moylan ,horgan etc ,their all big name forwards for cork that can take the pressure of PA ,and unlike lehane when joined cork in 2012,had not the burden of being expected to win games for cork on he's own.

Like shane o neill in 2005 and 2006 when he wore 27 and 26 on the cork panels,being around them will help him in the future.He has real talent,workrate needs to be upped,but thats a hard ask under poor managers.


As regards kingston,a good coach,but i would have liked to see another face,as compared to clare and tipp we seem low on numbers.

A lot of pressure on kingston and crowley now.Yes seanie mcgrath is their ,but he is more media and pr,than actual coaching foresight or tactial anayalis.


Cunningham is a huge blow to cork.
Its a bad bad idea not to field a team in waterford crystal.Cork wouldnt want to get carried away from last year and think we have gone above the rest.Clare proved how useful it was.
It would have been ideal to give game time to spillane,cormac murphy,cadogan,callaghan,nagle,o mahonys etc and give them time leading up to the league while the main panel sit it out.

There is enough young players in cork to field a young team.Not an exact true barometer ,as the level is poor,but still useful for a young team.

The panel when its named will show what we have learned from last year,but walsh is great for cork hurling.
Been a mixed bag of news the last week.

thinkstoomuch1

Kanturk v Glanworth ,Intermediate football q final tonight in Mallow.


Should be a close game,but Kanturk with john mcloughlin,Walsh at midfield and Nash and mcloughlin up front should edge it.

Having said that ,Mossie barrett is like johnny keane in hurling,any club ,like clyda,donoughmore ladies football and won junior all irelands at intercounty with cork,it is hard to disregard a club team with him in charge.

Not having played in over two months could work against them.

premierstone

lukin wrote: »

I know but he has taken a year out from college so that will help. He will be at home in Kanturk for the year.

An interesting slant to put on it

Its obviously great news for JBM and the hurlers but I don't know if it will work certainly not long term, potentially he is an excellent hurler, he is an average at best footballer, I would imagine he will end up siding with the hurling.

thinkstoomuch1

Anyone that says Walsh is at best an average footballer clearly hasnt got a clue about football,a two time all star ,and young player of the year at just 23,, he has proven hes better than average.

Yes an average player can win a lucky one allstar,but to win two at midfield,and be young pofy,is better than average,in fairness .

Some going in four years.And it would be just foolish to judge walsh on last year when he was played at centre forward and before that at full forward,clearly out of position ,by a manager that was directly responsible hes poor form last year.
He has huge aeras to work on like kick passing and scoring but it testatement to other aspects of hes tremondous football abiltiy that with weakness still in hes game he has won two all stars and a young player of the year.

One of only aprox 15 cork players to win more than one all star.Corkery,ciaran o sullivan or joe kavanagh only have won.
And walsh is just one of two cork men to win young player of the year.



A very very good footballer, yes he is not by a long way the finished article,and has stalled like most cork players the last two years on a team that was going nowhere except backwards ,is far better than average.

premierstone

Yes I haven't a clue about football unlike a great man like yourself :rolleyes: Perhaps he has been a victim of hype and as you say being played out of position, but I like my footballers who can actually kick the ball, I guess we will see next year whether it was Counihan or Walsh's limitations that are to blame, I'll keep an open mind, something you seem incapable of, much like your ability to compose a coherent sentence